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Welcome to the game

Now that the new Origins has been anounced oficially, there's only one thing to say to the newcomers



WELCOME

If you have any questions about the game, don't hesitate to ask me or any other old player :)
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Re: Welcome to the game

Indeed. :-D

If you notice issues, let us know in the development section
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Re: Welcome to the game

yay more then just 4 people active ;)
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Re: Welcome to the game

There is no cash market at this point. And if I put one in, it will not be for resources, only for temporary buffs to the account.

ANY cash-like market that gets implemented, consultation with the players would happen first ;), as well as I will be putting a much lower limit on the cash spendable each month. As you said, I don't want another drunk-monkies fiasco.
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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Re: Welcome to the game

SuperSaiyan wrote:What about player to player cash deals
These are alot harder to achieve since there is no direct player-to-player transfers like main.

An option that I could consider, is delaying the appearance of trades on the market for up to 12 hours (not to hard). That way, they could make the transaction with the cash, but they can't say "And quickly look for the 1000 units for 1 naq", as it could be delayed up to 12 hours, and possibly stolen by someone else noticing.
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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<+CABAL> so adminHere, ever thought about playing SGW? :b
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Re: Welcome to the game

Tetrismonkey wrote:Sarevok, what I want to know is how you plan to make Origins different from Main and build a constant, stable player base.
Excellent question Tetrismonkey. One of the goals I've already put in, is to only to updated which the majority of the GAMING (not forum) community like the idea of. Hence the ingame voting system where people can see the link describing the update, as well as cast their vote as to if they like it or not. With enough description, hopefully players won't need to visit the forum to decide if the like the update.

I'd be interested to know how you would like to see it different? It is currently different in that there is no raiding, no player-to-player transfers, covert calculations are MUCH similar (and clearly laid out in the help section), and an open market exists where people can browse for deals they like, instead of needing to post on the forum.

Building a player base, this will I think be the biggest hurdle I can see. I would hope that I can design the game in such a way that people will enjoy it and invite their friends to come play. Possibly create a facebook page/group (or ask a player to do this) that people can like/join, and can share with their friends.

I'm not sure what you mean by stable player base. I hope to always consider all players in game-changing decisions that happen, to help them feel in the loop, and minimise the negative effects changes have on playing styles, so people don't feel they can't play how they wish to and leave.
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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<+CABAL> :o
<+Sarevok> Cabal, look up Jtest ;)
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<~adminHere> another :) i am a multi ;)
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Re: Welcome to the game

Sarevok wrote:
SuperSaiyan wrote:What about player to player cash deals
These are alot harder to achieve since there is no direct player-to-player transfers like main.

An option that I could consider, is delaying the appearance of trades on the market for up to 12 hours (not to hard). That way, they could make the transaction with the cash, but they can't say "And quickly look for the 1000 units for 1 naq", as it could be delayed up to 12 hours, and possibly stolen by someone else noticing.

That would be great, I think the delay shouldn't be exactly x number of hours, but rather it should be any amount of time between 4-6 hours at random. That way no one would know when exacly the trade is going to appear and one wouldn't be able to say 'look for the 1000 units for 1 naq at 13:45.13'

SuperSaiyan wrote:please tell me there are precautions to prevent another drunk monkeys thing? :P


I think the cheaper bank upgrades might be helpful against another drunk monkies. Although that's probably not enough.
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Re: Welcome to the game

ljietuvis wrote:
Sarevok wrote:
SuperSaiyan wrote:What about player to player cash deals
These are alot harder to achieve since there is no direct player-to-player transfers like main.

An option that I could consider, is delaying the appearance of trades on the market for up to 12 hours (not to hard). That way, they could make the transaction with the cash, but they can't say "And quickly look for the 1000 units for 1 naq", as it could be delayed up to 12 hours, and possibly stolen by someone else noticing.
That would be great, I think the delay shouldn't be exactly x number of hours, but rather it should be any amount of time between 4-6 hours at random. That way no one would know when exacly the trade is going to appear and one wouldn't be able to say 'look for the 1000 units for 1 naq at 13:45.13'
Sorry, what I meant was, it would pick a random time, up to 12 hours, to delay putting the trade on the market. Not that it would always be *exactly* 12 hours.

ljietuvis wrote:
SuperSaiyan wrote:please tell me there are precautions to prevent another drunk monkeys thing? :P
I think the cheaper bank upgrades might be helpful against another drunk monkies. Although that's probably not enough.
[/quote]I'm not 100% across what happened with that. Can someone describe what happened? To my knowledge, they went around buying resources like no ones business to become strong.
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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<+CABAL> so adminHere, ever thought about playing SGW? :b
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<+CABAL> :o
<+Sarevok> Cabal, look up Jtest ;)
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<~adminHere> another :) i am a multi ;)
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Re: Welcome to the game

I don't think they bought resources at all. They just became the strongest alliance and started massing anyone who would try to build his army up. Or they would suggest anyone who would get in the top 20 ranks or so to either join them or get massed, so they only grew stronger. But I don't think they used money, at one point there was a cease fire between them and Dark Brotherhood (of which I was a member) and then I got almost as strong as their leaders were even though I didn't spend any money.
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Richard Feynman wrote:God was invented to explain mystery. God is always invented to explain those things that you do not understand. Now, when you finally discover how something works, you get some laws which you're taking away from God; you don't need him anymore. But you need him for the other mysteries. So therefore you leave him to create the universe because we haven't figured that out yet; you need him for understanding those things which you don't believe the laws will explain, such as consciousness, or why you only live to a certain length of time — life and death — stuff like that. God is always associated with those things that you do not understand.
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So the issue was more of a "Join us or get massed" than spends heaps to grow? The spending was my impression.

Hmm, perhaps instead a cap on army size is needed. Or at least a scaling cap based off game size.
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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<+CABAL> so adminHere, ever thought about playing SGW? :b
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<+Sarevok> Cabal, look up Jtest ;)
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<~adminHere> another :) i am a multi ;)
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Re: Welcome to the game

There is a market, or do you mean a player-game market?

What stops you from logging in each turn to use the bonus 45AT you get?
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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Re: Welcome to the game

So you would say better to be able to trade the turns for Naq, then to farm what is available?

I understand the desire for more naq to grow more quickly, but I'm just not sure if changes made now, will cause the game to grow out of control.
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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Re: Welcome to the game

Sarevok wrote:So you would say better to be able to trade the turns for Naq, then to farm what is available?

I understand the desire for more naq to grow more quickly, but I'm just not sure if changes made now, will cause the game to grow out of control.


I think the game is already approaching the threshold for out of control as defenses are increasing the costs of a strike large enough to challenge them isn't worth because it can't be maintained or repaired because farming smaller defenses has a large cost in damages as well. Also sabotage does nothing against defense weapons that i've seen so far and also the losses are too great to make the action worth it.
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Re: Welcome to the game

So I'm hearing that defenses need to be nerfed?

If this is the case, I'll put a vote to the players, and see if they agree, and if they do, by how much they should be weakened.
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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<+CABAL> so adminHere, ever thought about playing SGW? :b
<~adminHere> cabal - i do :)
<+CABAL> :o
<+Sarevok> Cabal, look up Jtest ;)
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<~adminHere> another :) i am a multi ;)
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