Sol wrote:. Shall I just explain again?reborn wrote:I can see your post but imo you have counter acted it by stopping active users that's ascended big the lack of turns.
So ppl that was inactive and couldn't give a **Filtered** about ascended now see a market to use their turns and sell for naq again not giving a **Filtered** about ascended just to get more in main.
Maybe that's to hard to understand
I just proved that you get MORE dmu/lf if you let it convert your APP over TC than a person converting to turns.
Assuming you farm as well.
Want me to summarise it?
You don't convert to turns + you farm with HALF your normal turn generation > you convert to turns + you farming normally.
It favours both sides I require, you get a little bonus but you wont surpass the normal farmers if you don't farm yourself. That being said, if you farm as well you will get a fair bit more than them.
Big ascenders DON'T NEED EXTRA TURNS IT WOULD BE OVERKILL, they would already get more DMU if they actually played the damn game and not complain about how they should get more APP's because they can't be bothered to farm.
Am I missing something in your argument? Or are you still not understanding?
Perhaps this?
Anyway I ll sum it up again real short
What is not taken into account here is the investment of NAQ players paid for "huge" ascension which was the last time I checked around 1 quadrillion of main NAQ
So you can add that to the loss of a player ascending big. So instead of that right now 1Q of NAQ is being used to trade for DMU directly and ascend lightly, after all it does save you the wait as well.
In other words if we make a comparison:
Player A ascending big:
- loss of NAQ
- loss of ability to make a turn conversion
- gain of LF which is a bit over the loss of being able to farm with those additional turns
- gain of 1 ascended level
Player B ascending small:
- no loss of naq (in comparison to player A naturally)
- ability to convert AP to turns
- gain of 1 ascended level
The simple question we ask ourselves therefor is. Who ascended in a better way?
Player A or Player B? Or to put it better. Do we follow path A or B?
Each can answer that question on his own.
There is where I personally (perhaps only one playing ascended) see the problem lies of not having the ATs being refilled like the rest and that is why I believe large ascensions are no longer viable, or smart, which I do not think was the intention in the first place, but rather to simply not make ascension boosts in short amount of time.
But anyway I think this topic is probably overdone and long past. Players will adapt to whatever mechanics there are in place. Therefor I think that all you can do is express your view on something, perhaps add some additional input, to explain to the others, your way of thinking, but then you should move on and if there is no change what you have to do is adapt.