tom twin....scammer?

[Deathshotshooter]

A year ago...i quit because the game got boring...i started selling UU, to at least have something to do...one day i got scammed...on a big trade...and thus ending my SGW career.

The same thing happened to me this morning...19 mill UU...gone in a flash...dreams destroyed...

As of right now...i dont know what i'm gonna do...i borrowed 200 dollars, from a friend to buy UU, and sell for higher...and now i owe him that 200$...

One month of my UP...gone...all the turns i bought and sold...wasted...naq i saved and aquired...wasted...all thats left is 100k spies...and 200 dollar debt...

Im gonna sit out for a while...contemplate about SGW...maybe ill come on once in a while to bank...

For those who are interested in the person. His id is 1908647.

Heres the convo...

tom twin-id1908647 you there?
hhm007@hotmail.com hey
hhm007@hotmail.com yea
hhm007@hotmail.com lol
hhm007@hotmail.com so much for 8 hours tongue.gif
hhm007@hotmail.com are you still ther?
tom twin-id1908647 rofl yeah, couldnt get my internet to work. got disruption with our network (storm over here)
hhm007@hotmail.com ohh
hhm007@hotmail.com ic ic
hhm007@hotmail.com np
hhm007@hotmail.com told you ill be up till 4am my time
hhm007@hotmail.com its only 3.30am
hhm007@hotmail.com lol
tom twin-id1908647 hehe 30mins to spare biggrin.gif
tom twin-id1908647 brb one sec
hhm007@hotmail.com kk
tom twin-id1908647 right back. can I invite the other trader im getting UU from aswell?
hhm007@hotmail.com sure
hhm007@hotmail.com how much are you getting from him?
tom twin-id1908647 20mill
hhm007@hotmail.com kk

not_original@hotmail.co.uk has been added to the conversation.

hhm007@hotmail.com so how we gonna do this?
not_original@hotmail.co.uk hey
tom twin - id1908647 ok. howd you want to do this?
not_original@hotmail.co.uk Who me?
tom twin - id1908647 either or tongue.gif. but you can be first then. gotta be quick. deathshotshooter needs sleep soon
hhm007@hotmail.com lol tongue.gif
not_original@hotmail.co.uk ok I will broker the UUs now
not_original@hotmail.co.uk then you can send me the money. U got my paypal? Tis the same as my hotmail
not_original@hotmail.co.uk *Its
tom twin - id1908647 ok. that sounds good to me.
not_original@hotmail.co.uk ID?
tom twin - id1908647 one sec
tom twin - id1908647 1908647
tom twin - id1908647 I will paypal you when the broker is set yeh?
not_original@hotmail.co.uk yea k
tom twin - id1908647 cool. well that makes me feel lots better smile.gif makes me a bit nervous trading with the guys who want to pay first incase they run off with my money sad.gif
not_original@hotmail.co.uk brokered. lol np
tom twin - id1908647 what was the rate? per mill
not_original@hotmail.co.uk lol!
not_original@hotmail.co.uk 13
tom twin - id1908647 kk 2secs
not_original@hotmail.co.uk come on dude I wanna sleep
not_original@hotmail.co.uk tongue.gif
hhm007@hotmail.com lol what time it is over tehre ?
tom twin - id1908647 me its 8:40pm.
tom twin - id1908647 ok paypal set up and payment confirmed smile.gif
not_original@hotmail.co.uk ok i will go check
tom twin - id1908647 let me know you confirmed then I will accept broker
not_original@hotmail.co.uk I live in indiana, its almost 3am) Ok cool, received the paymenr
not_original@hotmail.co.uk payment*
hhm007@hotmail.com lol almost 4am here in canada,on
hhm007@hotmail.com lol
tom twin - id1908647 neat biggrin.gif yay UU's biggrin.gif
not_original@hotmail.co.uk ok cheers. see you guys later
not_original@hotmail.co.uk cya
hhm007@hotmail.com kk
hhm007@hotmail.com nights man

11/4/2007 3:44:43 AM not_original@hotmail.co.uk has left the conversation.

tom twin - id1908647 so next smile.gif.
hhm007@hotmail.com yup
hhm007@hotmail.com i have 19 mill now
hhm007@hotmail.com instead of 18
tom twin - id1908647 neat biggrin.gif.
tom twin - id1908647 can we trade same way as I just did then? makes me feel loads better
hhm007@hotmail.com np
hhm007@hotmail.com setting up broker
hhm007@hotmail.com my paypal is same as my email
hhm007@hotmail.com 14/mill just in case your forgot tongue.gif
tom twin - id1908647 yup thats fine smile.gif.
tom twin - id1908647 then after this I got a **Filtered** load of homework.
tom twin - id1908647 lol
tom twin - id1908647 im just going to paypal now. let me know when done
hhm007@hotmail.com kk
hhm007@hotmail.com ehh..
hhm007@hotmail.com WTH
tom twin - id1908647 am i still online? internet being gay
hhm007@hotmail.com You fold to pressure from the galactic council in not providing this galaxy any more units since it has amassed so many that the galactic council considers it a threat to all galactic life to assist it to grow more. The maximum the council allows before stopping direct giving or trading of units is 101,917,808
tom twin - id1908647 you got right id? one sec let me check
hhm007@hotmail.com did i do something wrong?
hhm007@hotmail.com lol
tom twin - id1908647 i dont have 100mill yet lol. i got loads of room
hhm007@hotmail.com 1908647
hhm007@hotmail.com right?
tom twin - id1908647 1908647 yeah. i havnt got near 100mill yet though sad.gif
hhm007@hotmail.com ohh wait, i think i know, i think i added one extra 0
hhm007@hotmail.com lmao
hhm007@hotmail.com broker is up now
tom twin - id1908647 ok sweet
tom twin - id1908647 loading paypal...zzzzzz
hhm007@hotmail.com lol
tom twin - id1908647 you have **Filtered** network where you are from?
hhm007@hotmail.com nope
hhm007@hotmail.com network fine here

He logs off..


~Edit for clarification~


Ok...he invited some other dude, and claimed to have done deal with him for 20 mill UU. Which was my mistake, and i should have check if he really recieved 20mill UU.

Then he did a deal with me, for 19 mill UU, b/c i thought the other deal was legit, i could trust him, thus i brokered him 19 mill uu first, he accepted it, and loged off.

After that, i got a friend to check his total army size. I knew his army size before i did deal with him. It was approx 44 Mill UU. When i got my friend to check, he had approx 64 mill UU. If he had really done the deal with the other guy, he should have 44+20+19 mill army size. One hour later i got a friend to check again, his army size had droped to 58mill, with only 370k UU out.

Thus his claims of network problems are false, if he can log on 1 hour later, and get rid of the UU i sent him, then he intentionally took my UU and didnt pay.

[Rich™]

i just read all that, and wasted alot of time, cos from all that convo i learnt 2 things

- someone got some money
- someone else got some UU

where's the scam?? give me cliff notes or highlight key areas, please

[AKJ]

Yeah ditto im failing to see the scam here...

[Deathshotshooter]

Ok...he invited some other dude, and claimed to have done deal with him for 20 mill UU. Which was my mistake, and i should have check if he really recieved 20mill UU.

Then he did a deal with me, for 19 mill UU, b/c i thought the other deal was legit, i could trust him, thus i brokered him 19 mill uu first, he accepted it, and loged off.

After that, i got a friend to check his total army size. I knew his army size before i did deal with him. It was approx 44 Mill UU. When i got my friend to check, he had approx 64 mill UU. If he had really done the deal with the other guy, he should have 44+20+19 mill army size. One hour later i got a friend to check again, his army size had droped to 58mill, with only 370k UU out.

Thus his claims of network problems are false, if he can log on 1 hour later, and get rid of the UU i sent him, then he intentionally took my UU and didnt pay.

[Praetorians]

so your accusing a member of the Knights of Briton which i'm a member of being a scammer???

have you spoke to TT about this?? it might a be mistake and can be easily cleared up.

go talk to him coz he is a genuine player.

[Deathshotshooter]

im not calling him a scammer. i have the "?"

Im just wondering if anyone here can verify his honesty. Ive pmed him ingame, left him a msg on msn..still no replies.

I have been searching around, and yes, he seems like a very trustworthy guy, but you gotta understand that 19 mill UU is worth alot, and costed me alot also. Im not saying 1005 that he is a scammer, im just staing what happened, to see what others say.

Cause right now, from my point of view, conviently, right after he accpeted the broker, he logged off msn. I got a friend to spy on him, and he had 63mill army size, he was at 44 before. What happened to the other 20 mill uu? and finally, he was clearly on 1 hour later, and his army size did drop from 63 to 58, maybe he bought UU for a friend, or he sent it somewhere else, i dont know. Im just posting what happened to see what you guys think.

Sure enough i want to clear this up, and if it is a misunderstanding i will of course grant full apologies for it.

[ARC_trooper]

imo TT isnt a scammer, hes always been a good trader.

He does have a login problem, he can barely get on lol.

Try to ask him about it next time you see him online, i will direct him to this topic whenever i see him online.

i will also pm him containing a link to this.

Ps: sometimes he suddenly logs off from msn when his connection fails, but we'll see

[Deathshotshooter]

kk thanks alot guys, just to clarify for all future readers. This is not a post about scamming, as i have read around about tom twin, and he seems just very trustworthy.

Im just looking for opinions and people who can vouch, and confirm my beleifs.

If and when tom twin reads this, hopefully we can solve this quickly, and i will grant my apolgies, to you and everyone else i have cause trouble to

[ARC_trooper]

Unless hes really a scammer but he will be kicked from our alliance etc.. if thats true.

But i doubt it

[Deathshotshooter]

Well i have talked to some people in my alliance, and they have traded with him, and say he is very trustworthy, just a dude with bad net. hopefully ill catch him online later (no idea of his timezone) and we can solve this.

[Brythalious]

Yeah TT has bad net problems, his Bro The Iron Duke has the same problems. I am sure if you message him directly you can sort any problems out.

[Deathshotshooter]

already did, just waiting for him

[Brythalious]

Cool, he is in NZ so its about 10:40 or something. 12 hours ahead of the UK.
So I imagine he is at work or whatever College. Something.

[Deathshotshooter]

so he's gmt+12? Cause im gmt-5

[Brythalious]

Yes that's right. So 17 hours ahead of you.