1931373 & 1931396

[Clarkey]

I was contacted ingame with a suspicion about the following accounts.

id=69864 -- Zaraki Ascended
id=69888 -- trif

id=1926147 -- son of hele
id=1926886 -- hordeZLA

id=1930976 -- Ice Dragon
id=1931373 -- Conan2
id=1931396 -- killer1127
id=1931470 -- hellsgate

id=1933359 -- Chief I
id=1933407 -- Enterprise 1701D
id=1933572 -- phoenix273
id=1933649 -- datguy

These accounts are all in the same alliance.

The reason they are grouped like that above is because I have been told that they seem to have similar banking patterns. For example they may not bank for several hours so their naq builds up then suddenly they have all banked at the same time.

There are possible innocent explanations for this so there is no need to repeat what I say.

They could be friends, family or multis.

However, upon further investigation I find that 2 of the accounts:

id=1931373 -- Conan2
id=1931396 -- killer1127

Have been reported before.

Conan2 - viewtopic.php?f=159&t=119948&hilit=1931373
It was said here by Admin that the 3 accounts plus 1 additional one on the link above were all banned. However 1931373 appears to be back yet the others arent.

killer1127 - viewtopic.php?f=159&t=114018&hilit=1931396
On this one there were two accounts reported, 1931396 - killer1127 and 1934285 - attack1127.
1934285 was Ostracized back then but 1931396 wasn't.

It is now odd that both killer1127 and conan2 happen to end up in the same alliance.

Whether Admin gave those accounts the benefit of the doubt I don't know, but in light of recent suspicions I feel they should be looked at again.

So please Admin on behalf of another ingame player could you check all those accounts above.

Thank you.

[Zepeln]

My name is Zepeln and I am the Acting Leader of the alliance in question. It would have been nice to get a pm on these folks before a topic was created. Nobody in my alliance is a multi. Each of these people has a separate e-mail and/or MSN account. I have talked to all but Hellgate (he was just added to allliance 7 days ago) and datguy (added 198 days ago) on MSN. If you would like I can give you access to our forum and you can see where most are from and in some cases how they are related to each other. I would also like to know who contacted you and is trying to frame my alliance.

BTW here is some of the info I have found out about these members from MSN or pm conversations:

id=69864 -- Zaraki Ascended -- plays out of South Africa, works at SAs national bank

id=69888 -- trif -- plays out of England, college student

id=1926147 -- son of hele -- plays out of Australia, friend of Conan2

id=1931373 -- Conan2 -- plays out of Australia, likes to make race cars

id=1926886 -- hordeZLA -- plays out of Slovenia, HS student

id=1933359 -- Chief I -- plays out of Finland, HS student...going into military

id=1930976 -- Ice Dragon -- plays out of Missouri, USA...going to college then back to military

id=1933407 -- Enterprise 1701D -- plays out of Virginia, USA...brother-in-law of Ice Dragon

id=1933572 -- phoenix273 -- plays out of California, USA when in college or New York, USA when at home

id=1933649 -- datguy -- plays out of Australia, is ethnically Vietnamese

id=1931396 -- killer1127 -- I have talked to him a few times on MSN

id=1931470 -- Hellsgate -- brand new guy I poached from a defunct alliance

[Clarkey]

It would have been nice to get a pm on these folks before a topic was created.

Not always the best choice of action because of the chances of tip-off to cheats.

Nobody in my alliance is a multi.

You know them in RL then to know this for 100% surity?

Each of these people has a separate e-mail and/or MSN account.

Well obviously because even Multi's can't use the same email address to register an account ingame. So that is neither here nor there. And it is easy for one person to be logged on to multiple MSN accounts at the same time to make it look like different person.

I would also like to know who contacted you and is trying to frame my alliance.

I am not at liberty to reveal sources.
No one is trying to frame your alliance, there is just a suspicion.

[Zepeln]

It would have been nice to get a pm on these folks before a topic was created.

Not always the best choice of action because of the chances of tip-off to cheats.

Yeah, but it avoids targeting innoccent accounts from false accussations.

Nobody in my alliance is a multi.

You know them in RL then to know this for 100% surity?

No, but I personally recruited most of these folks at different times during my last 10 months of playing. A lot of our members are new players that are recruited after they attack a member of our alliance.

Each of these people has a separate e-mail and/or MSN account.

Well obviously because even Multi's can't use the same email address to register an account ingame. So that is neither here nor there. And it is easy for one person to be logged on to multiple MSN accounts at the same time to make it look like different person.

So, under these circumstances...how do you prove that you are not a multi-account?

I would also like to know who contacted you and is trying to frame my alliance.

I am not at liberty to reveal sources.
No one is trying to frame your alliance, there is just a suspicion.

It just seems that it helps cut down on blatant false accusations by people who have an personal ax to grind when all names are made public.

[David Bliss]

Clarkey will find out what is going on, he is good at this.

[Colos]

There are possible innocent explanations for this.

End of discussion.
Colos

[formerly adminMark]

Hello,

No evidence of multi or other cheating activity found at this time.

adminMark

[Clarkey]

Hello,

No evidence of multi or other cheating activity found at this time.

adminMark

Thank you.
I'll pass it on.