House Balance

[[BoT] Jason]

*see's voting not making a difference*

admin spent his "precious" time on this. so its coming out...go or bad ....

[Sarevok]

I'd rather see them come in. But not have them as bonuses, but tweaks.

For example, rather then just getting an outright 3% more at, you get say a 10% more at, but a -5% defence, and -5% covert or something. So you can tweak your game style, but not actually get just more bonuses on bonuses.

[Richard B Riddick]

i don't like the house idea at all, especailly with that one house that negates blessing, it makes ascending almost pointless, and screws those over that have already put the effort into ascending.

[Sarevok]

i don't like the house idea at all, especailly with that one house that negates blessing, it makes ascending almost pointless, and screws those over that have already put the effort into ascending.

Cause the 49% stat boost over un-ascended accounts isn't good enough right?
Besides, they also miss out on the blessing. So all you need to do, is make sure your attack is greater then 35% of their defence, and your guaranteed to ALWAYS damage it.

[Richard B Riddick]

and those who are unascended can always ascend, this just punishes those who put the time and resources into ascending, everybody was unascended at one point, and the only reason to ascend past AG is for the ascended blessing.

[Sarevok]

First, i don't see why, nor agree with the forcing of ascension on people.
Second, does that mean you also disapprove of the one that improves your chance of a blessing? Since it means you don't need to put in the effort for the final 3 ascensions to get a better chance at AB then those full ascended?

[Richard B Riddick]

yes, i don't think blessing should be any part of the houses, i'm against the whole thing how they are set up, but if they are gonna be put in, i think that there should be no blessing ones at all, not any that get rid of em, and not any that add to blessing, i think only way to get blessing higher is by ascending, that's my view anyway

and it's not forcing people to ascend all the way, it's their choice, with all the naq it costs to ascend they can build big planets, or give a big boost to their ms, or spend not just resources, but time as well (since u can't really build anything, like ms techs or high covert level when ascending). ascending is a choice, only ones that are really forced is up to LG+1, which is really cheap and easy to reach, AG even better if they want to put the time into it, but again, very cheap.

[CABAL]

yes, i don't think blessing should be any part of the houses, i'm against the whole thing how they are set up, but if they are gonna be put in, i think that there should be no blessing ones at all, not any that get rid of em, and not any that add to blessing, i think only way to get blessing higher is by ascending, that's my view anyway

and it's not forcing people to ascend all the way, it's their choice, with all the naq it costs to ascend they can build big planets, or give a big boost to their ms, or spend not just resources, but time as well (since u can't really build anything, like ms techs or high covert level when ascending). ascending is a choice, only ones that are really forced is up to LG+1, which is really cheap and easy to reach, AG even better if they want to put the time into it, but again, very cheap.

There is only one path to build your account.
Sure, you can have massive MS, etc. But your account is still worhtless unless it is highly ascended. If you check the market every now and again, >20 ascensions are highly valued, in fact, you of all people should know. Whereas a LG with massive planets and MS will not even come close to 1/5 of the price of a >20 ascension account.

[Sarevok]

yes, i don't think blessing should be any part of the houses, i'm against the whole thing how they are set up, but if they are gonna be put in, i think that there should be no blessing ones at all, not any that get rid of em, and not any that add to blessing, i think only way to get blessing higher is by ascending, that's my view anyway

and it's not forcing people to ascend all the way, it's their choice, with all the naq it costs to ascend they can build big planets, or give a big boost to their ms, or spend not just resources, but time as well (since u can't really build anything, like ms techs or high covert level when ascending). ascending is a choice, only ones that are really forced is up to LG+1, which is really cheap and easy to reach, AG even better if they want to put the time into it, but again, very cheap.

Except that, planets can be taken, MS can be massed. The stat boosts, and doubling of attack or defence out weighs those. Because you don't take losses. You'll take less losses as a fully ascended. If for example you are a LG+1 with a 2T, and i'm an UnKnown or whatever it is, with a 1T ms, you need to have 2T realm stats, to fully use your MS, where as i only need to have 1T, since i'll get blessed what, 60% of the time. Thus doubling my attack, without doubling my losses, compared to what you need for your 2T realm.

[_Rube_Dragon_]

Quick question with all this "house " stuff

As a non member of an allience. and i dont intend to join one (as of now) but this update will make me be forced to join on inorder obtain a bonus that i cant obtain on my own.

As it seems this update will empower the Strong and make the weak left behind. So all the large alliance and groups will dominate as they are currently and nothing will change except it will be harder to take them out if another "Server war" was to start. i dont see this helping only hurting unless there is something im missing.

question: how will this help me? casue it will only seem to hurt us lone wolfs. (in my case lone Cub)

[Mojo_Rising]

LOL! Don't waste your breath protesting.
You've got to see these updates as handicaps rather than as improvements.
If you're still on top after yet another hurdle, you know you're doing well. Sometimes you'll trip, I've done that; but there's always Jason to blame.

It could be so much more.

[Sarevok]

Quick question with all this "house " stuff

As a non member of an allience. and i dont intend to join one (as of now) but this update will make me be forced to join on inorder obtain a bonus that i cant obtain on my own.

As it seems this update will empower the Strong and make the weak left behind. So all the large alliance and groups will dominate as they are currently and nothing will change except it will be harder to take them out if another "Server war" was to start. i dont see this helping only hurting unless there is something im missing.

question: how will this help me? casue it will only seem to hurt us lone wolfs. (in my case lone Cub)

Is why i'd like to have them as re-arrangement of stats, instead of more boosts. That way, your not loosing out, just the ability to better customise yourself

[_Rube_Dragon_]

*votes Sarevok's idea*

[MaxSterling]

NO MORE BONUSES!!!
Houses should be changed to Empires and should only be used as a means to improve communication within an Empire... Empire-wide messaging and voting.

This.. for the sake of the game..

im inclined to agreee.

house's will just be an abusive measure with no way to balance it in the ways of a for everyone and Empires will dominate them.

Agreed, but it will go ahead regardless of comments just like the last batch of bad updates did.

** Votes Against House Update **

NO MORE BONUSES!!!