lets talk about forum rules and mods abuse

[Rudy Peña]

I assume you are referring to Haz creating a new OE/DDE Topic.
He did not dictate your war's status, he locked the original thread and instead of cleaning its entirety in a tedious fashion, chose to create a new thread from scratch. An action he explained in both threads I believe (could have just been the new one, not 100% on that).

And that was the wrong action to take, he chose to ignore instances of rules being broken and instead locked a thread that should not have been locked because it was still ongoing and instead chose to then create a redundant thread (against the rules) but used his Mod Powers to lock the old one (abuse of powers) so he was no longer breaking the rule. That's like, 2 strikes.

What?! I took actions on suggestions, and the fact that this has been done previously.

Following the suggestions that this thread should be locked and recreated, I have decided to action this to provide a clean slate from the spam and insults and countless other instances of rule breaking. A new thread will be created and all in-thread warnings from this thread will apply to the new thread.

Locked.

New thread link here.

Everything posted between my last mod action before the locking, and the lock, was on topic. About 1-2 pages. I had multiple people suggest the thread be locked and recreated. I thought it was a good idea, and enacted it. No ignorance of rules being broken, and I fail to see how this is abuse of powers.

Had anyone reported posts from the old thread, I would have looked at the reports and actioned them based on their content. But I didn't have any reports since the lock.

Why lock the thread and create a new one if no rules were being broken in it then? If it was the case that rules were being broken in it (and it must have been) then you chose the route of not doing your job and just swept it under the rug by creating a new thread as opposed to doing your job and cleaning the old thread OR permanently locking it.

It is against the rules to create a redundant thread, you did that. I don't see how you being a Mod would absolve you of doing so. Just because you then locked the old thread (or whatever order it happened) doesn't make it okay, it just means you (unknowingly, I'm sure) used your Mod powers to circumvent having actually broken the rule.

Then look over the old thread and see if any posts break the rules and warn people were it applies.

[Empy]

I assume you are referring to Haz creating a new OE/DDE Topic.
He did not dictate your war's status, he locked the original thread and instead of cleaning its entirety in a tedious fashion, chose to create a new thread from scratch. An action he explained in both threads I believe (could have just been the new one, not 100% on that).

And that was the wrong action to take, he chose to ignore instances of rules being broken and instead locked a thread that should not have been locked because it was still ongoing and instead chose to then create a redundant thread (against the rules) but used his Mod Powers to lock the old one (abuse of powers) so he was no longer breaking the rule. That's like, 2 strikes.

What?! I took actions on suggestions, and the fact that this has been done previously.

Following the suggestions that this thread should be locked and recreated, I have decided to action this to provide a clean slate from the spam and insults and countless other instances of rule breaking. A new thread will be created and all in-thread warnings from this thread will apply to the new thread.

Locked.

New thread link here.

Everything posted between my last mod action before the locking, and the lock, was on topic. About 1-2 pages. I had multiple people suggest the thread be locked and recreated. I thought it was a good idea, and enacted it. No ignorance of rules being broken, and I fail to see how this is abuse of powers.

Had anyone reported posts from the old thread, I would have looked at the reports and actioned them based on their content. But I didn't have any reports since the lock.

Why lock the thread and create a new one if no rules were being broken in it then? If it was the case that rules were being broken in it (and it must have been) then you chose the route of not doing your job and just swept it under the rug by creating a new thread as opposed to doing your job and cleaning the old thread OR permanently locking it.

It is against the rules to create a redundant thread, you did that. I don't see how you being a Mod would absolve you of doing so. Just because you then locked the old thread (or whatever order it happened) doesn't make it okay, it just means you (unknowingly, I'm sure) used your Mod powers to circumvent having actually broken the rule.

Then look over the old thread and see if any posts break the rules and warn people were it applies.

I'm not a mod

[Juliette]

This is not an Oms issue, but speaking as a user with knowledge; Haz seems to be quite right.

[Rudy Peña]

I assume you are referring to Haz creating a new OE/DDE Topic.
He did not dictate your war's status, he locked the original thread and instead of cleaning its entirety in a tedious fashion, chose to create a new thread from scratch. An action he explained in both threads I believe (could have just been the new one, not 100% on that).

And that was the wrong action to take, he chose to ignore instances of rules being broken and instead locked a thread that should not have been locked because it was still ongoing and instead chose to then create a redundant thread (against the rules) but used his Mod Powers to lock the old one (abuse of powers) so he was no longer breaking the rule. That's like, 2 strikes.

What?! I took actions on suggestions, and the fact that this has been done previously.

Following the suggestions that this thread should be locked and recreated, I have decided to action this to provide a clean slate from the spam and insults and countless other instances of rule breaking. A new thread will be created and all in-thread warnings from this thread will apply to the new thread.

Locked.

New thread link here.

Everything posted between my last mod action before the locking, and the lock, was on topic. About 1-2 pages. I had multiple people suggest the thread be locked and recreated. I thought it was a good idea, and enacted it. No ignorance of rules being broken, and I fail to see how this is abuse of powers.

Had anyone reported posts from the old thread, I would have looked at the reports and actioned them based on their content. But I didn't have any reports since the lock.

Why lock the thread and create a new one if no rules were being broken in it then? If it was the case that rules were being broken in it (and it must have been) then you chose the route of not doing your job and just swept it under the rug by creating a new thread as opposed to doing your job and cleaning the old thread OR permanently locking it.

It is against the rules to create a redundant thread, you did that. I don't see how you being a Mod would absolve you of doing so. Just because you then locked the old thread (or whatever order it happened) doesn't make it okay, it just means you (unknowingly, I'm sure) used your Mod powers to circumvent having actually broken the rule.

Then look over the old thread and see if any posts break the rules and warn people were it applies.

I'm not a mod

Well not you per say.

The other mods can.

[Empy]

I assume you are referring to Haz creating a new OE/DDE Topic.
He did not dictate your war's status, he locked the original thread and instead of cleaning its entirety in a tedious fashion, chose to create a new thread from scratch. An action he explained in both threads I believe (could have just been the new one, not 100% on that).

And that was the wrong action to take, he chose to ignore instances of rules being broken and instead locked a thread that should not have been locked because it was still ongoing and instead chose to then create a redundant thread (against the rules) but used his Mod Powers to lock the old one (abuse of powers) so he was no longer breaking the rule. That's like, 2 strikes.

What?! I took actions on suggestions, and the fact that this has been done previously.

Following the suggestions that this thread should be locked and recreated, I have decided to action this to provide a clean slate from the spam and insults and countless other instances of rule breaking. A new thread will be created and all in-thread warnings from this thread will apply to the new thread.

Locked.

New thread link here.

Everything posted between my last mod action before the locking, and the lock, was on topic. About 1-2 pages. I had multiple people suggest the thread be locked and recreated. I thought it was a good idea, and enacted it. No ignorance of rules being broken, and I fail to see how this is abuse of powers.

Had anyone reported posts from the old thread, I would have looked at the reports and actioned them based on their content. But I didn't have any reports since the lock.

Why lock the thread and create a new one if no rules were being broken in it then? If it was the case that rules were being broken in it (and it must have been) then you chose the route of not doing your job and just swept it under the rug by creating a new thread as opposed to doing your job and cleaning the old thread OR permanently locking it.

It is against the rules to create a redundant thread, you did that. I don't see how you being a Mod would absolve you of doing so. Just because you then locked the old thread (or whatever order it happened) doesn't make it okay, it just means you (unknowingly, I'm sure) used your Mod powers to circumvent having actually broken the rule.

Then look over the old thread and see if any posts break the rules and warn people were it applies.

I'm not a mod

Well not you per say.

The other mods can.

Yes they can

[Rudy Peña]

[spoiler]

I assume you are referring to Haz creating a new OE/DDE Topic.
He did not dictate your war's status, he locked the original thread and instead of cleaning its entirety in a tedious fashion, chose to create a new thread from scratch. An action he explained in both threads I believe (could have just been the new one, not 100% on that).

And that was the wrong action to take, he chose to ignore instances of rules being broken and instead locked a thread that should not have been locked because it was still ongoing and instead chose to then create a redundant thread (against the rules) but used his Mod Powers to lock the old one (abuse of powers) so he was no longer breaking the rule. That's like, 2 strikes.

What?! I took actions on suggestions, and the fact that this has been done previously.

Following the suggestions that this thread should be locked and recreated, I have decided to action this to provide a clean slate from the spam and insults and countless other instances of rule breaking. A new thread will be created and all in-thread warnings from this thread will apply to the new thread.

Locked.

New thread link here.

Everything posted between my last mod action before the locking, and the lock, was on topic. About 1-2 pages. I had multiple people suggest the thread be locked and recreated. I thought it was a good idea, and enacted it. No ignorance of rules being broken, and I fail to see how this is abuse of powers.

Had anyone reported posts from the old thread, I would have looked at the reports and actioned them based on their content. But I didn't have any reports since the lock.

Why lock the thread and create a new one if no rules were being broken in it then? If it was the case that rules were being broken in it (and it must have been) then you chose the route of not doing your job and just swept it under the rug by creating a new thread as opposed to doing your job and cleaning the old thread OR permanently locking it.

It is against the rules to create a redundant thread, you did that. I don't see how you being a Mod would absolve you of doing so. Just because you then locked the old thread (or whatever order it happened) doesn't make it okay, it just means you (unknowingly, I'm sure) used your Mod powers to circumvent having actually broken the rule.

Then look over the old thread and see if any posts break the rules and warn people were it applies.

I'm not a mod

Well not you per say.

The other mods can.

Yes they can

[/spoiler]

[The Doctor]

I assume you are referring to Haz creating a new OE/DDE Topic.
He did not dictate your war's status, he locked the original thread and instead of cleaning its entirety in a tedious fashion, chose to create a new thread from scratch. An action he explained in both threads I believe (could have just been the new one, not 100% on that).

And that was the wrong action to take, he chose to ignore instances of rules being broken and instead locked a thread that should not have been locked because it was still ongoing and instead chose to then create a redundant thread (against the rules) but used his Mod Powers to lock the old one (abuse of powers) so he was no longer breaking the rule. That's like, 2 strikes.

What?! I took actions on suggestions, and the fact that this has been done previously.

Following the suggestions that this thread should be locked and recreated, I have decided to action this to provide a clean slate from the spam and insults and countless other instances of rule breaking. A new thread will be created and all in-thread warnings from this thread will apply to the new thread.

Locked.

New thread link here.

Everything posted between my last mod action before the locking, and the lock, was on topic. About 1-2 pages. I had multiple people suggest the thread be locked and recreated. I thought it was a good idea, and enacted it. No ignorance of rules being broken, and I fail to see how this is abuse of powers.

Had anyone reported posts from the old thread, I would have looked at the reports and actioned them based on their content. But I didn't have any reports since the lock.

Why lock the thread and create a new one if no rules were being broken in it then?

It seemed that no one was listening when in-thread warnings were given. So I created the new thread, quoting the previous warnings and saying they still apply. Previously it has been noted that not everyone reads every post in a thread, especially one that is 131 pages long. But it is an almost guarantee that they will read the first post at least.

If it was the case that rules were being broken in it (and it must have been) then you chose the route of not doing your job and just swept it under the rug by creating a new thread as opposed to doing your job and cleaning the old thread OR permanently locking it.

All posts were removed and users warned that were after your in-thread "last warning". Anything before that did not have said in-thread warning applied to it. If there are any particular posts in the thread which you believe should not be there, they can be reported.

It is against the rules to create a redundant thread, you did that. I don't see how you being a Mod would absolve you of doing so. Just because you then locked the old thread (or whatever order it happened) doesn't make it okay, it just means you (unknowingly, I'm sure) used your Mod powers to circumvent having actually broken the rule.

I had multiple people suggest the thread be locked and recreated. I thought it was a good idea, and enacted it.

It provided the opportunity for users to "move away" from the spamfilled thread. As mentioned before, this has previously been done with the TJP vs FUALL war threads (multiple threads) which worked fine then. I wasn't doing it to create a redundant thread, nor did I abuse my Mod powers.

[Empy]

I wasn't doing it to create a redundant thread, nor did I abuse my Mod powers.

But, that's what you did...

[The Doctor]

I wasn't doing it to create a redundant thread, nor did I abuse my Mod powers.

But, that's what you did...

"No I didn't" "Yes you did" "No I didn't" "Yes you did"...

It's been done before in the TJP vs FUALL thread, I was following from that example. It worked then, it will work now (seems to be). Not redundant.

And I still fail to see how it was abusing mod powers.

[The Doctor]

Also:

why close a topic and not move it to the right place ??
need more about this moderator ??
[spoiler][/spoiler]

The topic contained discussion on two separate things: multiing and scamming. Which belong in two separate sections. I felt it best for the topics to be redone in said sections, rather than me chop up the existing topic into parts relevant and moved to the appropriate sections.

[kaboom]

Regarding mods i blindly agree with what ever Rob3rt sad... didnt even read this topic dont think nothin will change..

Mods need to be here to keep us pricks in line ... however who keeps the biass mod pricks in line ?

Not saying we need police to police the police ... some kinda vote bout mods or complaints bout mods that would be acted on not by the mods themselfs would be nice..

Till then ill just stick to me mod massin days

[The Doctor]

Regarding mods i blindly agree with what ever Rob3rt sad... didnt even read this topic dont think nothin will change..

Mods need to be here to keep us pricks in line ... however who keeps the biass mod pricks in line ?

Not saying we need police to police the police ... some kinda vote bout mods or complaints bout mods that would be acted on not by the mods themselfs would be nice..

Till then ill just stick to me mod massin days

So you didn't even read this topic, just blindly stating your opinion without regard of any response explaining the situation?

Also, please show where this bias occurs. Report the mod or make a post about it in this section, and provide proof of any bias, and action can be taken on it. Just calling bias without proof goes nowhere.

[kaboom]

Regarding mods i blindly agree with what ever Rob3rt sad... didnt even read this topic dont think nothin will change..

Mods need to be here to keep us pricks in line ... however who keeps the biass mod pricks in line ?

Not saying we need police to police the police ... some kinda vote bout mods or complaints bout mods that would be acted on not by the mods themselfs would be nice..

Till then ill just stick to me mod massin days

So you didn't even read this topic, just blindly stating your opinion without regard of any response explaining the situation?

Also, please show where this bias occurs. Report the mod or make a post about it in this section, and provide proof of any bias, and action can be taken on it. Just calling bias without proof goes nowhere.

, i know you prob warn me now for reacting to a mod

[The Doctor]

Regarding mods i blindly agree with what ever Rob3rt sad... didnt even read this topic dont think nothin will change..

Mods need to be here to keep us pricks in line ... however who keeps the biass mod pricks in line ?

Not saying we need police to police the police ... some kinda vote bout mods or complaints bout mods that would be acted on not by the mods themselfs would be nice..

Till then ill just stick to me mod massin days

So you didn't even read this topic, just blindly stating your opinion without regard of any response explaining the situation?

Also, please show where this bias occurs. Report the mod or make a post about it in this section, and provide proof of any bias, and action can be taken on it. Just calling bias without proof goes nowhere.

, i know you prob warn me now for reacting to a mod

Nope, the rule is "disrespecting a moderator who is acting in an official capacity". You have not disrespected a moderator, nor am I acting in an official capacity.

[kaboom]

Regarding mods i blindly agree with what ever Rob3rt sad... didnt even read this topic dont think nothin will change..

Mods need to be here to keep us pricks in line ... however who keeps the biass mod pricks in line ?

Not saying we need police to police the police ... some kinda vote bout mods or complaints bout mods that would be acted on not by the mods themselfs would be nice..

Till then ill just stick to me mod massin days

So you didn't even read this topic, just blindly stating your opinion without regard of any response explaining the situation?

Also, please show where this bias occurs. Report the mod or make a post about it in this section, and provide proof of any bias, and action can be taken on it. Just calling bias without proof goes nowhere.

, i know you prob warn me now for reacting to a mod

Nope, the rule is "disrespecting a moderator who is acting in an official capacity". You have not disrespected a moderator, nor am I acting in an official capacity.

But who decides when your doing what ? you im guessing