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Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:28 pm
by Remedy™
Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote:lulz, but it took over 4.5 hours for that conclusion to be determined, proved, and verified. :shock:
and that is if we don't wait for me to show up and agree with you. :(

Lack of caring? Look at the amount of time in between posts. ;)

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:03 am
by Psyko
It only took 14 posts...

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:30 am
by ƒëmmë
x = pineapple

cba doing the whole BIMDAS stuff,

bacon is good

ex's are bad

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:28 am
by JasonJay
Brackets first
Division and multiplication are of equal importance

Therefore 6/2(2+1)=1

As 6/(2*3)=1

In general we were taught to bracket the denominator and numerator to simplify either on it's own before doing overall simplification

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:48 am
by Remedy™
JasonJay wrote:Brackets first
Division and multiplication are of equal importance

Therefore 6/2(2+1)=1

As 6/(2*3)=1

In general we were taught to bracket the denominator and numerator to simplify either on it's own before doing overall simplification

The 6/2 goes first as...
JasonJay wrote:Division and multiplication are of equal importance

So, 6/2 = 3
3(3) = 9

Thought we already explained this.

Order or operations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations

Brackets, then Mult/Div(left to right)
6/2(2+1)=x
6/2(3)=x
3(3)=x
x=9

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:01 am
by JasonJay
It hit me, don't change your denominators into numerators


6/2(2+1)=1 as it can be written as (6/1)*(1/3)*[1/(2+1)]

(6/2)(2+1)=9 as this can be written as (6/1)*(1/3)*[(2+1)/1]


*flies away*

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:05 am
by Remedy™
JasonJay wrote:It hit me, don't change your denominators into numerators


6/2(2+1)=1 as it can be written as (6/1)*(1/3)*[1/(2+1)]

(6/2)(2+1)=9 as this can be written as (6/1)*(1/3)*[(2+1)/1]


*flies away*

How exactly are you getting those...?
6/1 I get.
[(2+1)/1] I get
But, you are doing 1/3 for the number 2 for some reason.
Also...
(6/1)*(1/3)*[(2+1)/1] = 6, not 9

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:07 am
by JasonJay
1/2*


Lulz the second answers is irrelevant to the point


So accept my proof or must I break out the math laws?

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:17 pm
by Slim87R
Yup evil me. The answer should be 9 any way you cut it.
6/2(1+2)

6/2 is a fraction applied to (1+2),
so if you wer to do it the distributive way you would end up with
(6/2)*1+(6/2)*2
(6/2)+(12/2)
18/2
9

or
6/2(3)
6/2*3 --The number in the parenthsis has been simplified so they are no longer relevant
3*3
9

New challenge replace any number with X to proof it.
ex:6/2(X+2)=9
or:X/2(1+2)=9

See if X comes out to 1 in the first and 6 in the 2nd.

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:35 pm
by Neimenljivi
Actually the formula is written incorrectly from the start.

The correct way, to get the solution you deem is right, would be to write:
(6/2)(1+2)=X
6/2(1+2)=X can mean either the formula above, indicating X=9 (the solution you deem right) or the formula 6/(2(1+2)) = X meaning X=1

So it all comes down to whether the fraction 6/2 is multiplied by (1+2) or the (1+2) is part of the denominator in which case 6 is divided by (2(1+2)).

~N

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:45 pm
by Slim87R
Neimenljivi wrote:Actually the formula is written incorrectly from the start.

The correct way, to get the solution you deem is right, would be to write:
(6/2)(1+2)=X
6/2(1+2)=X can mean either the formula above, indicating X=9 (the solution you deem right) or the formula 6/(2(1+2)) = X meaning X=1

So it all comes down to whether the fraction 6/2 is multiplied by (1+2) or the (1+2) is part of the denominator in which case 6 is divided by (2(1+2)).

~N


You are absolutely right there. But what if "/" was replaced with the division symbol?
Edit:I read somewhere that the denominator can only be the element after the "/". So since it is written 6/2(1+2), 2 is the element that is the denominator. If the equation was written 6/(2(1+2)), then the element would be everything inside the parenthesis making the entire denominator 2(1+2).

Discuss.

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:49 pm
by Neimenljivi
In computer science / is the division symbol ;)

~N

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:52 pm
by Slim87R
Neimenljivi wrote:In computer science / is the division symbol ;)

~N


I hear that "/" is given a slightly higher rank than the division symbol. Discuss.

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:04 pm
by Neimenljivi
Seeing your edit now, I'm sure you're familiar with the equation pV=nRT
Where the constant R=8,314 kPaL/Kmol - both K and mol are in denominator, I've never seen it written as kPaL/Kmol^-1 (I have, though, seen it written as kPaLK^-1mol^-1). So more elements can be considered as part of the denominator, depending on how the fraction is written of course. As I said, what you've written can have 2 solutions depending on what you take as the whole fraction. In straight-line writing, you have to use parenthesis. Calculators will use only the first element after the division symbol, but that's something that was decided upon. I've never, ever seen a rule saying that only the first element after the division symbol is taken into the denominator (R, seen in many literatures, proving my point as well).

As I said, in computer science the symbol for division is /, it doesn't "outrank" any other symbol afaik.

~N

Re: oooooh, I am so evil.....

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:35 pm
by Slim87R
LMAO. I know almost nothing about math. I was just trolling. Not familiar with the equation you used as an example. I posted the equation from Facebook. Whoever originally wrote it like that is either an asshat or a troll himself. I just figured it would turn into a raging thread of 1 vs 9 like I saw on Facebook hence the "I'm evil" part.