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Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:04 pm
by Kjarkur
~Dä Vinci~ wrote:50m = 500b

100m = 1.5t

150m = 2t

200m = 2.5t

250m = 3t

300m = 3.5t

350m = 4t

400m = 4.5t

500m = 5t

600m = 7.5t


war set from one side = 150% the amount taken

war-war = 300% taken
Excellent idea. Let's start with this.

I mentioned this on an admin meeting couple of weeks ago - most agreed the limit should be raised.

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:09 pm
by Kikaz
Kjarkur wrote:
~Dä Vinci~ wrote:50m = 500b

100m = 1.5t

150m = 2t

200m = 2.5t

250m = 3t

300m = 3.5t

350m = 4t

400m = 4.5t

500m = 5t

600m = 7.5t


war set from one side = 150% the amount taken

war-war = 300% taken
Excellent idea. Let's start with this.

I mentioned this on an admin meeting couple of weeks ago - most agreed the limit should be raised.
This.

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:09 pm
by Bioflick
Kikaz wrote:
Kjarkur wrote:
~Dä Vinci~ wrote:50m = 500b

100m = 1.5t

150m = 2t

200m = 2.5t

250m = 3t

300m = 3.5t

350m = 4t

400m = 4.5t

500m = 5t

600m = 7.5t


war set from one side = 150% the amount taken

war-war = 300% taken
Excellent idea. Let's start with this.

I mentioned this on an admin meeting couple of weeks ago - most agreed the limit should be raised.
This.
+1

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:58 pm
by Feri
Bioflick wrote:
Kikaz wrote:
Kjarkur wrote:
~Dä Vinci~ wrote:50m = 500b

100m = 1.5t

150m = 2t

200m = 2.5t

250m = 3t

300m = 3.5t

350m = 4t

400m = 4.5t

500m = 5t

600m = 7.5t


war set from one side = 150% the amount taken

war-war = 300% taken
Excellent idea. Let's start with this.

I mentioned this on an admin meeting couple of weeks ago - most agreed the limit should be raised.
This.
+1
+2

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:28 pm
by harshfello
Feri wrote:
Bioflick wrote:
Kikaz wrote:
Kjarkur wrote:
~Dä Vinci~ wrote:50m = 500b

100m = 1.5t

150m = 2t

200m = 2.5t

250m = 3t

300m = 3.5t

350m = 4t

400m = 4.5t

500m = 5t

600m = 7.5t


war set from one side = 150% the amount taken

war-war = 300% taken
Excellent idea. Let's start with this.

I mentioned this on an admin meeting couple of weeks ago - most agreed the limit should be raised.
This.
+1
+2
+3

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:06 am
by Master Rahl
harshfello wrote:
Feri wrote:
Bioflick wrote:
Kikaz wrote:
Kjarkur wrote:
~Dä Vinci~ wrote:50m = 500b

100m = 1.5t

150m = 2t

200m = 2.5t

250m = 3t

300m = 3.5t

350m = 4t

400m = 4.5t

500m = 5t

600m = 7.5t


war set from one side = 150% the amount taken

war-war = 300% taken
Excellent idea. Let's start with this.

I mentioned this on an admin meeting couple of weeks ago - most agreed the limit should be raised.
This.
+1
+2
+3
+4 and I swear there was another topic like this not too long ago... or am I mistaken?

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:41 am
by Caprila
Support wrote:Only way I would consider it is with war-war.. a simple war set would nullify the effect across the board.

Sharing is caring. [-X
If Support has shut down discussion on standard (non-war) hits, there's not a lot of point discussing it.
~Dä Vinci~ wrote:
war set from one side = 150% the amount taken

war-war = 300% taken
This is the only part that seems likely to be accepted by Admin.. and seems a good idea.

Massing farmers that gift you with a war setting, is fun after all :smt060

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:06 am
by DeathIncarnator
So lets get this right ........those with big strikes want to make it easier to take more naq off others ? So they get all quicker and save some ATs too.

Anyone seconding the corner of those whose defences will effectively be circumnavigated ?

It doesn't seem like the game mechanics are broken.

This will put non aggressive Alliances/Members at a disadvantage once again and favour massers and heavy farmers.

Big strikes big $$$ spenders v the rest in promoting this proposal.

BS once again.

Season`s Felicitations to all :)

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:27 am
by ~Dä Vinci~
DeathIncarnator wrote:So lets get this right ........those with big strikes want to make it easier to take more naq off others ? So they get all quicker and save some ATs too.

Anyone seconding the corner of those whose defences will effectively be circumnavigated ?

It doesn't seem like the game mechanics are broken.

This will put non aggressive Alliances/Members at a disadvantage once again and favour massers and heavy farmers.

Big strikes big $$$ spenders v the rest in promoting this proposal.

BS once again.

Season`s Felicitations to all :)
big strike isn't worth farming any more with the loss to gain ratio, i think it needs to be improved.. with the new income planets, people can sit with 20t out on 100t defence. Their is no risk of them loosing it and they can basically not play.

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:17 am
by Bioflick
~Dä Vinci~ wrote:
DeathIncarnator wrote:So lets get this right ........those with big strikes want to make it easier to take more naq off others ? So they get all quicker and save some ATs too.

Anyone seconding the corner of those whose defences will effectively be circumnavigated ?

It doesn't seem like the game mechanics are broken.

This will put non aggressive Alliances/Members at a disadvantage once again and favour massers and heavy farmers.

Big strikes big $$$ spenders v the rest in promoting this proposal.

BS once again.

Season`s Felicitations to all :)
big strike isn't worth farming any more with the loss to gain ratio, i think it needs to be improved.. with the new income planets, people can sit with 20t out on 100t defence. Their is no risk of them loosing it and they can basically not play.
Example.

Dec 18, 17:30 Macalania 130,747,663,161 Naquadah stolen 15 8,360 0 42,646,746,751,800 3 details

i made 37b from this hit after repairs. ps its a AB hit. ](*,)
good we now have NG's for farming..

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:02 am
by Caprila
01[15:43] <Caprila> Any thought on the naq taken per hit / armysize rule?
01[15:44] <Caprila> Suggestion on forum is for additional naq to be taken with neutral/war or war/neutral, with a larger taking on war/war

[15:45] <~Support> Cap, yes. :) Considering some figures, mainly an increase on the higher army sizes, but remaining equal to current at the lower levels, ie < 500m.
Some additional discussion was made by FM, on the difficulty of farming large defences with 'small' armysizes (i.e. 300mil as with 40tril defence), but I'll leave that to him to suggest if he wants to :razz:

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:48 am
by Duderanch
Cool that it's being looked in to, although i think you (support) should consider new figures for 200m + armies. Even if it was just double what it is now.

200m - 3t
300m - 4t

And so on, is reasonable in my opinion.

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:22 pm
by Bioflick
bump

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:17 pm
by Richard B Riddick
I agree the figures need to be reworked, these figures are from bk when 500 bill was a lot for hits (now many dont even 0 def farm for less than 100 bill, plus with income planets increasing naq generation 11 fold, also resulting in MORE people running income), and average defense bk then is a fraction what it is now, we now have 80 t defs popping up like crazy, and it is almost unprofitable to farm those no matter how much they have out. so yes figures need to be re worked or else there is no incentive to play, build massive defense , build income, log in once a day and you are safe.

im amazed the number of people leaving trillions of naq out, bk in the day even page 1 players didnt do that


[spoiler]and FYI, i'm one of those players chilling with huge def and income :smt043 but while i am doing it, i still agree it shouldn't be like this[/spoiler]

Re: Remove the 500b naq/100m army rule

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:46 am
by Bioflick
Im also chilling with a huge defence. and a huge useless strike..