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Neimenljivi wrote:Muffa - I posted a link so he knows what my terms are and he can decide whether he wants to hire me or not. Had I wanted to abide by his terms - I would simply have posted a draft into the sig request thread - that's the difference.

Rudy - me stealing a large sum of naq from you and massing you in the process, you not wanting to back down and then someone from OE started massing someone from TPP and we massed ya to stone age.
Anyway - I came to him so he can see what my terms are and he can then choose whether he wants to hire me or not.
Of course I am putting myself out there - I am, after all, the one who has the sig shop.
By every custom-made job in RL one usually asks for what the price range will be - everyone can ask me that, I always tell people. Hope didn't ask me, that's ok - usually people don't ask me that. The only limit then, is that you keep your price in that price range. We didn't even get to the price part mate.

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Neimenljivi wrote:

dastupy wrote:

Neimenljivi wrote: I also sent a message to Hope to notify him I'll consider him hiring me, he read the message and hasn't sent a negative reply - meaning "no, I don't want to hire you". If he had - yes I'd be extorting him. He hasn't done that - enough said.


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This part gives me the impression that you, as a sig maker, accept his terms and change your terms for his where they collide.

On a further note, don't spam this too much

"After you hire me I'm obliged to do the job until you like it and you're obliged to pay me."

It's in my terms (you can check, I haven't changed them for a long long time). Meaning once he hires me - he accepts my terms.

~N

Neimenljivi wrote:I didn't say "Mate, please hire me". I wasn't asking him to hire me - I showed him to see my terms so that he can hire me.

Tek - it clearly says that by hiring me one abides to my terms - I don't change terms for anyone. People then have two options - either to choose me and abide to my terms, or to choose someone else.

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Neimenljivi wrote:I didn't say "Mate, please hire me". I wasn't asking him to hire me - I showed him to see my terms so that he can hire me.

Tek - it clearly says that by hiring me one abides to my terms - I don't change terms for anyone. People then have two options - either to choose me and abide to my terms, or to choose someone else.

~N

Neimenljivi wrote:Say I did ask him - would that change the fact that in my thread it clearly says once one hires me, one has to accept my terms?
In the end of the day, even if I would have asked him to hire me, which I didn't, he was the one that hired me and also could have chosen not to hire me. By hiring me, again, he accepted my terms.

Tek - I did send him a message in which he could have said I assumed wrong, had my assumptions been wrong. Anyway like I say in my terms - I work until one is satisfied, but one has to tell me what to change, not say I am not going to get paid

~N

Note: when you hire me - you hire me. Meaning I don't enter sig contests or requests, I do the job exclusively. You hire me and I do the graphic you request and I adjust/change/completely redo, if needed, until it's to your liking. First graphic I present is merely a draft. After you hire me I'm obliged to do the job until you like it and you're obliged to pay me.

Clarkey wrote:Clearly neither of you communicated appropriately from the start. learn from this lesson and improve on it for future agreements.

Rudy Pena wrote:

Neimenljivi wrote:Say I did ask him - would that change the fact that in my thread it clearly says once one hires me, one has to accept my terms?
In the end of the day, even if I would have asked him to hire me, which I didn't, he was the one that hired me and also could have chosen not to hire me. By hiring me, again, he accepted my terms.

Tek - I did send him a message in which he could have said I assumed wrong, had my assumptions been wrong. Anyway like I say in my terms - I work until one is satisfied, but one has to tell me what to change, not say I am not going to get paid

~N

Note: when you hire me - you hire me. Meaning I don't enter sig contests or requests, I do the job exclusively. You hire me and I do the graphic you request and I adjust/change/completely redo, if needed, until it's to your liking. First graphic I present is merely a draft. After you hire me I'm obliged to do the job until you like it and you're obliged to pay me.

Both go in conjunction with each other, so therefore, he did not like it, do you dont get payed.

You cant get one without the other.


The fact he told you what to use and what not to use, you then used what he said not to use....well it looks like you just wanted naq....

Neimenljivi wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Neimenljivi wrote:Say I did ask him - would that change the fact that in my thread it clearly says once one hires me, one has to accept my terms?
In the end of the day, even if I would have asked him to hire me, which I didn't, he was the one that hired me and also could have chosen not to hire me. By hiring me, again, he accepted my terms.

Tek - I did send him a message in which he could have said I assumed wrong, had my assumptions been wrong. Anyway like I say in my terms - I work until one is satisfied, but one has to tell me what to change, not say I am not going to get paid

~N

Note: when you hire me - you hire me. Meaning I don't enter sig contests or requests, I do the job exclusively. You hire me and I do the graphic you request and I adjust/change/completely redo, if needed, until it's to your liking. First graphic I present is merely a draft. After you hire me I'm obliged to do the job until you like it and you're obliged to pay me.

Both go in conjunction with each other, so therefore, he did not like it, do you dont get payed.

You cant get one without the other.


The fact he told you what to use and what not to use, you then used what he said not to use....well it looks like you just wanted naq....

I can only fix it to his liking once he tells me what to change, right?
Had he told me that - I would have already changed everything and got my naq and there'd be no need for this thread

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Neimenljivi wrote:I searched for the image he wanted, hardly my fault search engines are so crappy, is it?
He could easily say - "you used the wrong pic, can you use the pic you can find for instance here: http://www.xxx.yyy", right? Which is what I would have done. I am saying (again) I will continue working on it and have agreed to his proposal, but this time I want the naq upfront.

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