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Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:50 am
by _willie_
logs

[spoiler]02:05 IceBreaker 39,316,845,704 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 12 details
00:05 IceBreaker 39,302,507,176 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 08, 13:36 IceBreaker 39,430,839,447 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 08, 11:36 IceBreaker 39,103,361,045 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 08, 09:36 IceBreaker 39,260,288,152 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 08, 04:36 IceBreaker 39,416,877,507 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 08, 02:36 IceBreaker 39,102,630,049 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 3 details
May 08, 00:36 IceBreaker 39,259,498,612 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 07, 22:36 IceBreaker 39,246,778,452 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 04, 05:06 IceBreaker 44,070,450,045 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 11 details
May 04, 03:36 IceBreaker 44,070,210,315 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 11 details
May 04, 02:06 IceBreaker 44,069,971,371 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details[/spoiler]
these are some of the hits

Its not the frequency of the attacks. Its the same time almost everytime and the amount of turns used.

I have deleted the attack power used.

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:58 am
by Juliette
Those are minutes, not seconds. :? Where does your "36th and 6th second" come from?

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:08 am
by Legendary Apophis
_willie_ wrote:logs

[spoiler]02:05 IceBreaker 39,316,845,704 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 12 details
00:05 IceBreaker 39,302,507,176 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 08, 13:36 IceBreaker 39,430,839,447 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 08, 11:36 IceBreaker 39,103,361,045 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 08, 09:36 IceBreaker 39,260,288,152 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 08, 04:36 IceBreaker 39,416,877,507 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 08, 02:36 IceBreaker 39,102,630,049 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 3 details
May 08, 00:36 IceBreaker 39,259,498,612 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 07, 22:36 IceBreaker 39,246,778,452 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details
May 04, 05:06 IceBreaker 44,070,450,045 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 11 details
May 04, 03:36 IceBreaker 44,070,210,315 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 11 details
May 04, 02:06 IceBreaker 44,069,971,371 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 6 details[/spoiler]
these are some of the hits

Its not the frequency of the attacks. Its the same time almost everytime and the amount of turns used.

I have deleted the attack power used.

That log looks perfectly legit to me.
Now that explains that thing I was wondering about, how the heck could you figure out the exact second these hits happened whereas only hours/minutes appear in logs...

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:53 am
by Clarkey
Lol a case of someone being so convinced something is not right that they don't realise their own mistake.

Hitting in the 36th and 6th minute is easy, you have 60 seconds to do it in which is plenty of time for a dedicated player.

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:00 am
by _willie_
guys that was a typo relax a bit. That is the reason I posted the logs here.

And I only post because it looks fishy.

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:33 am
by IceBreaker
_willie_ wrote:guys that was a typo relax a bit. That is the reason I posted the logs here.

And I only post because it looks fishy.


No worries all opinions taken. But u should know that i farm on turn on avarage around 2 T - 3 T as any good farmer even normal one does. Their are even people that farm more then me per turn and they aren't scripters???. Some times more if time is wright and if big hits 500 B + .... U now smile TIME IS WRIGHT, yes day time does do the differenc and it is seen when u farm as much as i do. My farm list is below 20 pages and targets have been add-et by years of experiance what is effective target. And my targets are 95 % inactives so i pissed some people who owns them as multies and spread lies about me + some ingame politics ... it all begon when ... i will not tell because will not go down to his level of personality.

Everyone has its own way to farm, raid, trade ... build up farm list ... build up stats ... but i will say this, never scamed no one on GW allways did what was promised and be honest, did all my hard work and never resell .... and i don't use scripts.

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:45 am
by _willie_
IceBreaker wrote:
_willie_ wrote:guys that was a typo relax a bit. That is the reason I posted the logs here.

And I only post because it looks fishy.


No worries all opinions taken. But u should know that i farm on turn on avarage around 2 T - 3 T as any good farmer even normal one does. Their are even people that farm more then me per turn and they aren't scripters???. Some times more if time is wright and if big hits 500 B + .... U now smile TIME IS WRIGHT, yes day time does do the differenc and it is seen when u farm as much as i do. My farm list is below 20 pages and targets have been add-et by years of experiance what is effective target. And my targets are 95 % inactives so i pissed some people who owns them as multies and spread lies about me + some ingame politics ... it all begon when ... i will not tell because will not go down to his level of personality.

Everyone has its own way to farm, raid, trade ... build up farm list ... build up stats ... but i will say this, never scamed no one on GW allways did what was promised and be honest, did all my hard work and never resell .... and i don't use scripts.

I understand your point Ice. But it just doesn't add up in my eyes. It just seems to be very form like. now if you arn't using a script all the better for you take it as a compliment but I would still like an inquiry.

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:30 am
by IceBreaker
_willie_ wrote:
IceBreaker wrote:
_willie_ wrote:guys that was a typo relax a bit. That is the reason I posted the logs here.

And I only post because it looks fishy.


No worries all opinions taken. But u should know that i farm on turn on avarage around 2 T - 3 T as any good farmer even normal one does. Their are even people that farm more then me per turn and they aren't scripters???. Some times more if time is wright and if big hits 500 B + .... U now smile TIME IS WRIGHT, yes day time does do the differenc and it is seen when u farm as much as i do. My farm list is below 20 pages and targets have been add-et by years of experiance what is effective target. And my targets are 95 % inactives so i pissed some people who owns them as multies and spread lies about me + some ingame politics ... it all begon when ... i will not tell because will not go down to his level of personality.

Everyone has its own way to farm, raid, trade ... build up farm list ... build up stats ... but i will say this, never scamed no one on GW allways did what was promised and be honest, did all my hard work and never resell .... and i don't use scripts.

I understand your point Ice. But it just doesn't add up in my eyes. It just seems to be very form like. now if you arn't using a script all the better for you take it as a compliment but I would still like an inquiry.


I support any inquiry if needet on me or anyone else. Have fun

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 12:14 pm
by GhostyGoo
Clarkey wrote:Lol a case of someone being so convinced something is not right that they don't realise their own mistake.

Hitting in the 36th and 6th minute is easy, you have 60 seconds to do it in which is plenty of time for a dedicated player.


Exactly what i've been trying to point out. Sorry it almost became a flame war, that was certainly not my intention. That is why i bowed out gracefully on the previous page.

That and i was beginning to doubt my own sanity....

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 12:39 pm
by Sadow
If my look at some of my logs, i assume they'll be similar (although i use quick-attack buttons much faster...). You can open tabs, windows and whatnot ahead of time, and when turn rolls over you can attack without updating the page. I could farm 100+ targets if i took the 2mins to line em up correctly each turn change.

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:16 pm
by Loki™
I know a thing or two about farming (more than any of you excluding IceBreaker and daku) and IceBreaker is fishy.
And about those seconds... GameTime: May10 - 15:50.46 notice something?
ramen07 wrote:
Loki™ wrote:
GhostyGoo wrote:Excuse me? I shan't be providing that type of attitude with anything! Show some decorum that would impress anyone or keep silent.

Everyone has techniques and, xDaku, from what you just said about the seconds descrepencies, i have tricks i could show you so don't ever count the old school out for the count - if i was ingorant i would very soon know about it.

I'm not here to inflate egos so you might as well all take yours and rub them against someone else because you'll get no joy from me..

Clarky's name is in blue and his word was "cleared". If that isn't good enough for you *shrug*

All i did was point out that a) is entirely possible to farm several accounts in the same minute and b) the logs only record minutes and hours. You have, for whatever reason, decided to oppose my position. An opposition which is silly, because both my observations are true.

Your possible "come and have a go at this old timer who thinks he can farm" routine is utterly unconducive whereas an opinion of how IceBreaker seems is and i stand-by that which i said, he seems a genuine enough chap regardless of how many people you can produce to try to persuade me otherwise.

I'm from 05 too...
IceBreaker farms a couple hundred bil in, repairs and banks in a half a second. He does that multiple times int the first ~2 minutes of the turn. That is not humanly possible.
Another pseudo intellectual here to grace our forums :roll:


I can honestly quick attack 6-7 people on one tab, repair on another, and bank on a third pretty quickly. I usually just change the ten-bill place to 1 or 2 less than what is it on the bank screen (leaving me with 10 or 20bill).

GhostyGoo wrote:*steadies head from disbelief type reeling*

Yes? That green bit. That is what i am asking. Am i missing something in the battle logs which shows you what second of the minute you were hit? As far as i'm aware the logs only show hh:mm for current day then dd:hh:mm for previous; am i mistaken?


Hey, I like lime green :D

Even so. Waiting to farm at the same minute every single day is a form of OCD I'm not truly prepared for lol

Just watch him at TC ok?

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:51 pm
by xDaku
Damn loki, you gave away the simple conclusion they all failed at getting at. :(

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:13 pm
by Borek
Going to be honest here, anyone who farms 200+ accounts in under 2 mins every turn change for 14 hours on end, without breaking weaps, who even manages to instantly repair his DEFENSE weaps when people attempt to counter-farm is most definitely cheating.

I'm sorry but even the most OCD unemployed slacker simply cannot do that for 6+ months without needing serious time in a mental health facility to recover.

I know because i have been the most OCD unemployed slacker myself and even at the peak of my farming, and believe me i was damn good, i would NEVER manage to even go 2 hrs with the sorts of logs this guy produces. Flawless precision for months on end simply cannot be achieved, period.

And i will also add that i have spoken to other players who have flat out admitted to me that they use scripts/bots to farm for them, no, not Ice, i do not know him and we have never spoken, but i know with 100% certainty that such tools exist and admin has not caught the users.

Sorry Goo, when there's money to be made or an advantage to be gained people will cheat to get it.

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:40 pm
by xDaku
Borek wrote:Going to be honest here, anyone who farms 200+ accounts in under 2 mins every turn change for 14 hours on end, without breaking weaps, who even manages to instantly repair his DEFENSE weaps when people attempt to counter-farm is most definitely cheating.

I'm sorry but even the most OCD unemployed slacker simply cannot do that for 6+ months without needing serious time in a mental health facility to recover.

I know because i have been the most OCD unemployed slacker myself and even at the peak of my farming, and believe me i was damn good, i would NEVER manage to even go 2 hrs with the sorts of logs this guy produces. Flawless precision for months on end simply cannot be achieved, period.

And i will also add that i have spoken to other players who have flat out admitted to me that they use scripts/bots to farm for them, no, not Ice, i do not know him and we have never spoken, but i know with 100% certainty that such tools exist and admin has not caught the users.

Sorry Goo, when there's money to be made or an advantage to be gained people will cheat to get it.


=D>

Re: What proof is needed

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:43 am
by IceBreaker
I have wrote mail to game admins, because i don't like to have my name tarnish and hopefully Admin Jason will take a in-depth look into my account as wished by this topic replys.
No disrespect to those who are against me but i think ur thought are beeing clouded and tnx for some farming pointers which were gain from this topic and hopefully some smaller players sow them and will put them into good use.

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MAIL WAS SEND TO: gameadmin@gatewars.com
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SUBJECT: IceBreaker message for Admin Jason
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Hi,

My name is Denis and my ingame nick is IceBreaker with "ID: 69429".
I have been reporten as ingame script user on forum and it seems multiple times.

LINK TO FORUM POST: viewtopic.php?f=209&t=192086

If Admin Sue reads this message i wish, that u forward this message to Admin Jason with no disrespect.

What i wish???:
Some off the ingame players don't trust to assessment of Admin Sue and wish to hear Admin Jason one
Please Admin Jason check my account in-depth "ID: 69429"
When account is checked in-depth please reply on above topic with your assessment and explanation
I wish u to notify me also on mail
Speed things little faster if possible
My name and repution is beeing tarnish which i don't like because trying to be honest and fair player.

Tnx-u regardless of the result.

Greatings from Slovenia,
Denis Molan
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