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Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:58 am
by HippyFool
Stops people (like me
) tabbing the #*$! out of the server and stealing all the naq
So I suppose it makes things a little fairer...like I have left this farm fest too late and i am pretty stuffed I think lol
Re: PLEASE READ THIS ADMIN
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:12 am
by jabujabu
Forum wrote:ok some i get, some i do not.
1) i do not see this. in the amount to send, you left it as zero? what is the battle ID so I can take a look? (look in url)
2) yes, they do.i am assuming you only send attack troop and an AC ... they do not destroy what you do not send. this 1per day growth will make more difference as the era progresses. there is now a cost to farming. low cost, but cost ...
3) yes, correct. or you can use no war and 15 turns?
4) so it should say "attack defended" but says 'lost 0 naq' instead?? (i assume you had more than zero naq??)
as for the write message i think its fixed.
as for the farming on turn and using tabs...i think once each 5 seconds or so is ok...just keep hitting the tab each 5seconds. the difference will be that others who do not 100 tab can also do some farming. maybe they will get to more than they did before. so who you hit first matters. a bit more strategy and not just 'who can hit the buttons the fastest' maybe....
plus with the point #2 -- danger, will robinson!! danger!
maybe...
the techs do not grow on their own. although i think they did until level 31 or such... let me know if you note any more tech autogrowth but i cannot see where it would do it..
oh - and the race bonuses are in the extra effect (a tauri holding 100 top weapons with supers will be 35% stronger than a repli holding the same) --but-- the cost to get those weapons and units will be the same for each. all 'cost savings' bonuses are removed. its only the strength of the arms/levels/etc that get the bonus....
my biggest concern is #1 point. i dont see how that happens, so let me know that attack ID.
i will have to check into the exacts of realm alert...i think (but not sure) it limits attacks by same player...so 10 people could hit you more or less at once. but one person could only hit you each xx seconds...
alright
i've done a few tests on people (no offense to people...just picking out people that are online / with stats)
so i buy 2 AMS for protection
i farm an inactive WITHOUT doing anything to the box that allows me to deploy AMS
and i lose the 2 AMS without any warning...in my logs it says i launched none
2nd case
i buy 2 AMS
i launch only one at someone
both are used, but only one is deployed
jabujabu brought 1 Armed Anti-Matter Specialist ... of which, 0 are thought to have escaped without exploding.These bad boys were responsible for the annialation of: 0 Attack Mercenaries, 0 Defense Mercenaries, 0 Offensive Away Team, 91 Offensive Away Team, 0 Offensive NID Team, 0 Defensive NID Team, 0 CounterIntelligence Agents, 7 Miners, 0 Untrained Military Peons.
3rd case
I launch 2 AMS on someone, but i have less than 50 percent of their defense
and it gives this error
read this topic :
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=161315so not only do they not explode, i only use 16 ATs
so i check it
and it says
Armed Anti-Matter Specialist to send (+1 turn taken per 10 sent): / 3
wth...you can only send 3...which makes the (+1 turn per 10 sent) redundant
btw, for the first two cases, i did not use extra AT to launch the AMS
battle id = 31
is the first inactive i hit...and i lost my AMS during that time
battle id = 216 is the one that works, but i still an AMS that i did not launch
to number 3, yes you have to set war and use 12 ATs+
if you use 15 ATs neutral, you hit for a less amoun than using 11 ATs plus... with war
to number 4, it should say attack defended, which it says 0 naq lost
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:36 am
by Forum
ok - done:
1) attack at less than half def and get sql error, fixed.
2) AMS disappearing if not sent - fixed (was easier to find once I got that they were not going to battle .. i thought they went if not told to...)
3) 31 techs given to those that did not have it.
4) daily AMS creation stopped. it is now weekly, randomly per account. A bit of a risk in mass farming, but not a serious impediment. no need for the one soldier attack or a 'friend' to clear the way before you attack.
5) i cannot replicate either the '0 naq lost' when you defended, or a defended attack not showing in attacker attack log. In fact, I see my failed attack, and see the attack in the defender account too... all say 'defended'. Can people provide attack IDs so I can check those exact ones?
to number 4, it should say attack defended, which it says 0 naq lost6) those that 'lost everything' --is the details of your loss not in the battle report? It should be... exactly what was lost and how...
anything else
?
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:39 am
by renegadze
Forum wrote:6) those that 'lost everything' --is the details of your loss not in the battle report? It should be... exactly what was lost and how...
anything else
?
if you are referring to the AMS killing the attack units, then no this still isn't appearing in attack logs as units lost...or atleast not for me
Still says Your Losses 0
EDIT: wait skip that, i got so use to having to train every turn I now have a few more men then expected as they hadn't been hitting AMS
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:42 am
by Forum
sorry - attack log detail...(or the report immediately following the battle with all the play by play)
i guess i could/should add it to teh summary...
i will assume you mean it is not on the summary.... unless you say otherwise. if it is not in the detail, give me the battle ID
renegadze wrote:Forum wrote:6) those that 'lost everything' --is the details of your loss not in the battle report? It should be... exactly what was lost and how...
anything else
?
if you are referring to the AMS killing the attack units, then no this still isn't appearing in attack logs as units lost...or atleast not for me
Still says Your Losses 0
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:24 am
by Scenester
This is still happening if you mean that, I attack with 1 drone + 1 merc:
10:22 ChildOfDarkness 28,902,610 Naquadah stolen 12 0 0 2,674,282 3 details
Says 0 got killed.
However when we click details:
Scenester brought 0 Armed Anti-Matter Specialist ... of which, 0 are thought to have escaped without exploding.These bad boys were responsible for the annialation of: 0 Attacking Mercenaries, 0 Defending Mercenaries, 0 Jaffa Raiders, 0 Jaffa Raiders, 0 Hok-Taur Raiders, 0 Hok-Taur Guards, 0 Assassin, 0 MineSlave, 0 Untrained Worshippers.
ChildOfDarkness had 1 Armed Anti-Matter Specialist in their realm at the time of attack. 0 were left, unrequired.These annialators of the atom, chain reactors of destruction, these last things you want to see on a Friday nite, were responsible for the annialation of: 1 Attack Mercenaries, 1 Attack Drone, 0 Attack Clone, 1 Anti-Intelligence Drone.
1 Attack Merc + 1 Attack Drone got killed.
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:46 pm
by Neimenljivi
Admin, the "0 naq stolen" instead of "attack defended" comes from era 20 I believe when you had to have shield action bigger than opponent's strike, if you hit no matter how many people and had 0 def, with big enough strike to get through opponent's defense, it said "0 naq stolen" as the attack wasn't exactly "defended" but the target was left with 0 naq, even though you couldn't steal any. I brought it up to awareness at the time I believe..
Anyway I'm not 100% positive as I wasn't able to do any testing today (missed the entire farm fest ](./images/smilies/eusa_wall.gif "Brick wall")
) but from what jabu described above I do think that might be the case..Hope I've helped..
~Jack
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:20 pm
by Forum
ok - the dead in summary in attack log is updated. hopefully correctly
this '0 naq lost' i need an attack ID to check it out...
any other items left? I think i got them all!!!! now thats a long time a' coming!
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:37 pm
by alucard110
Forum wrote:any other items left? I think i got them all!!!! now thats a long time a' coming!
Looking pretty good, thanks for fixing everything as much as you possibly could from the suggestions.
One thing that i thought was interesting to have... the "XX players online" bit... and of course the Top UP whatsy...
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:25 pm
by S1eepy
Well looks like the era is set up as its going to be.
I cant see it going well.. But thats in the design i suppose.
Going to be a wave for destruction and chaos.. nothing is safe..
If kikaz isnt playing he will kick himself. Its his dream wave.
But I think it will be a bit too chaotic. There needs to be some stabalising factor. Something people can focus on, or try to protect. Otherwise nothing is important. Not even rank, because even that is only going to be available at the grace of everyone else.
As soon as anyone wants you dead.. it will happen. and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Not now.. or even endgame.
I think i've accrued too many hostile intentions over the last few years to even think about competing in this one... But then again.. who hasnt?
I guess ill spend the wave trying and accrue some more. Shouldn't be hard
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:05 pm
by XaoC
for admin:
I have 7,3 mill Naq income per turn, 7,3x48 turns=350,4 mill, but my bank size = 264,2 mill... this is normaly?
Regards ChaoS.
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:22 pm
by jabujabu
Forum wrote:ok - the dead in summary in attack log is updated. hopefully correctly
this '0 naq lost' i need an attack ID to check it out...
any other items left? I think i got them all!!!! now thats a long time a' coming!
this link shows some
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=161324i think the problem is , it only shows up in global logs,
also, can i have some UU back for losing like 10 AMS
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:28 pm
by Kikaz
S1eepy wrote:Tauri bonus to strike is usefull.. but again.. one rank.. so combatable endgame by focusing other stats. Tauri never really competed on the same level as the other races. Their bonus is primarily a combat one.. and usualy people who focus on waring find it hard to finish well. (
just ask kikaz )
Why am I always used as an example haven't even actively played in almost a year.
S1eepy wrote:Well looks like the era is set up as its going to be.
I cant see it going well.. But thats in the design i suppose.
Going to be a wave for destruction and chaos.. nothing is safe..
If kikaz isnt playing he will kick himself. Its his dream wave.
And no time.. until a month into the wave.
Just messing around right now.
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:22 pm
by jabujabu
S1eepy wrote:Well looks like the era is set up as its going to be.
I cant see it going well.. But thats in the design i suppose.
Going to be a wave for destruction and chaos.. nothing is safe..
If kikaz isnt playing he will kick himself. Its his dream wave.
But I think it will be a bit too chaotic. There needs to be some stabalising factor. Something people can focus on, or try to protect. Otherwise nothing is important. Not even rank, because even that is only going to be available at the grace of everyone else.
As soon as anyone wants you dead.. it will happen. and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Not now.. or even endgame.
I think i've accrued too many hostile intentions over the last few years to even think about competing in this one... But then again.. who hasnt?
I guess ill spend the wave trying and accrue some more. Shouldn't be hard
double agree / bump / make this happen / gogogogo
stablising factor...i've thought about it many times
the only way you can barely get by is having
lots of defense supers, and an uber anticovert to back it up
that way AMS can't work unless you have half their defense, and you can't sab their defense cuz their anticovert is too good
by the way
jabujabu brought 1 Armed Anti-Matter Specialist ... of which, 0 are thought to have escaped without exploding.These bad boys were responsible for the annialation of: 0 Attack Mercenaries, 0 Defense Mercenaries, 0 Offensive Away Team, 91 Offensive Away Team, 0 Offensive NID Team, 0 Defensive NID Team, 0 CounterIntelligence Agents, 7 Miners, 0 Untrained Military Peons.
only 98 units dead?
Re: here comes..... 22 :)
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:28 pm
by Ace1102
2 more things I have noticed over this era, apart from the AMS thing that is muchly annoying at this point of the game...
The idea behind the AMS is good, but it needs a little more refinement, ie, AMS should not be deploying from a defending army, and able to kill miners on the attacking army...
Honestly, I NEVER bring my miners out to battle, so how the hell are defending AMS's able to reach my home planet to kill miners...
Anyway, the 2 things I have issue with now;
1) How to calculate top UP, there is no pop-up over the total/day UP anymore, this is something that needs to come back... we all NEEEEDS it...
2) You've left the galactic alert level thingo in place, but you've also hit us with another 'unseen' alert level device, you cannot attack ANYTHING more then 5 times in 30 seconds...
That is total crap, so not only can someone go on critical and you cant attack them more then xx in xx seconds, you cant even attack/farm anybody more then 5 times in 30 seconds as an extra incentive to not use your AT's...
Should lose one or the other, have a galactic alert level or have 5 attacks in 30 seconds, but don't have both... its silly