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Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:40 am
by Forum
same as of time of copy - about 3 weeks ago.
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thorsworld1 wrote:Noob time

how do i get onto the dev site and wil the userid and password be the same as existing details

Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:20 pm
by mephis
Forum wrote:same as of time of copy - about 3 weeks ago.
dev.gatewars.com

thorsworld1 wrote:Noob time

how do i get onto the dev site and wil the userid and password be the same as existing details


What happened to the Double Income for 1k glory :sge

Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:38 am
by Lebe
Forum wrote:right now there is only:
1) 1000GnR <> 250,000 AP in ascended account
2) huge (298,000) def weapon. 1000GnR <> 1000 weapons
3) huge (300,000) att weapon. 1000 GnR <> 1000 weapons

1000 G&R = 250K APP = max 75 ATs on ascended = 1Q DMU = absolutely not worth it

With 528 ATs daily on ascended, you could make life force in value of 1.750.000 APP by attacking only for tiny amounts of DMU. Not mentioning, that you could get LF worth of 250K APP only by spending 15 ATs on one good target. Players with high enough strike could make LF worth in over 9.000.000 APP daily.

Making it even 1000 G&R worth of 2,5M APP would not worth of a much (BIG maybe for some1), because it is only 10Q DMU and it could be done easily in one TC. I would take away posibility to exchange G&R for APP and would leave there only option for ascending (1001 G&R for 1st after max, 2001 for 2nd, 3001 after 3rd) and each time you ascend, your G&R would be resetet as usual, as you will not gain anything for acc on main, only APP on ascended (superweapons would be not touchable by re-ascending).

Plus making APP gained from ascending multiplyed by double? For 2nd ascension over max make them worth triple? It would be more and more expensive to get enough G&R and everybody will think twice, before investing into re-ascension (call it luxury) or to the superweapons.

Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:11 pm
by Sol
Lebe wrote:
Forum wrote:right now there is only:
1) 1000GnR <> 250,000 AP in ascended account
2) huge (298,000) def weapon. 1000GnR <> 1000 weapons
3) huge (300,000) att weapon. 1000 GnR <> 1000 weapons

1000 G&R = 250K APP = max 75 ATs on ascended = 1Q DMU = absolutely not worth it

For you it isn't ;)

Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:54 am
by Lebe
Sol wrote:
Lebe wrote:
Forum wrote:right now there is only:
1) 1000GnR <> 250,000 AP in ascended account
2) huge (298,000) def weapon. 1000GnR <> 1000 weapons
3) huge (300,000) att weapon. 1000 GnR <> 1000 weapons

1000 G&R = 250K APP = max 75 ATs on ascended = 1Q DMU = absolutely not worth it

For you it isn't ;)


Seems so. Just finished one farming round, mostly on acc with 0 defences and got LF equal to almost 2.500.000 APP. On main, it could take 21 days to get 1000 G&R and it would be worth only 250.000 APP?

Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:56 am
by minisaiyan
the idea is not to overhaul and make a new system more worth it, it's to suplement the income of APP and to give a use to GnR

Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:29 am
by Sol
That and you shouldn't want to just hand a **Filtered** stack of APP to a noob.

Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:27 am
by Thel
Sol wrote:That and you shouldn't want to just hand a **Filtered** stack of APP to a noob.


Surely anyone spending their hard earned G&R on APP rather then Ascending wouldn't be a noob :smt047


However it stops players who have finished ascending pulling miles ahead so it shouldnt be a huge amount imo :smt050

Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:27 pm
by Lebe
CJL wrote:the idea is not to overhaul and make a new system more worth it, it's to suplement the income of APP and to give a use to GnR


I agree to give more ways of spending/using G&R and/or ME, but then I logen on dev server and.... you will maybe change your mind, if you do the same. Sacrifice 2M UUs and 6 MTs to obtain 16T naq? Or sacrifice 6 MTs on exchange for 27K ATs or 18 days of merlin? If it is not overhauled, then how would you call this?

My suggestion is to remove G&R -> APP conversion, but if it had to be there, then it could be more atractive.

Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:56 am
by GeneralChaos
Lebe wrote:
Sol wrote:
Lebe wrote:
Forum wrote:right now there is only:
1) 1000GnR <> 250,000 AP in ascended account
2) huge (298,000) def weapon. 1000GnR <> 1000 weapons
3) huge (300,000) att weapon. 1000 GnR <> 1000 weapons

1000 G&R = 250K APP = max 75 ATs on ascended = 1Q DMU = absolutely not worth it

For you it isn't ;)


Seems so. Just finished one farming round, mostly on acc with 0 defences and got LF equal to almost 2.500.000 APP. On main, it could take 21 days to get 1000 G&R and it would be worth only 250.000 APP?



They are right though, the 250,000 looks like alot, but its really not, the only people it would benefit would be those who ascended for the first time with the min needed to do so, anyone who ascends with any amount of APP will never need it, but this is where balance comes into it, it should not be used as a boost but an aid,

So im going to say that admin has the number set right, 250k seems fair, maybe after some balancing 500k might work in the long run.

mephis wrote:
What happened to the Double Income for 1k glory :sge


Thats a decent idea too, Doubles your income for 24 hours, everyone could benefit from this.

Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:36 pm
by Sol
GeneralChaos wrote:
So im going to say that admin has the number set right, 250k seems fair, maybe after some balancing 500k might work in the long run.


I opted for it to be based off of something like planet count or ascension level but AJ wanted a constant value, unfortunately. Better to be under than over and not have main contaminate ascended.

Re: Glory Shop

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:39 pm
by matty~
any way we can use GnR to buy APP

if this is the discussion best idea ever