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ascension power point

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:55 pm
by Ancient Thor
Ascension power points are loosing their valute.
More and more people buy DMU rather then ascend cause if they ascend they get 1/10 what they can buy in DMU for main UU's
so my suggestion is to encourage ascendind by changing the rate for APP
they should be worth way more then few hours income in ascension, after all the game should encourage ascending not discouraging it.

~Thor~

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:57 pm
by hidden
HEY thats my idea

which i probably got from someone else

change the ratios to make everything worth way more

and make uu worth a HUGE amount more then it is currently

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:31 am
by Zeratul
this is ascended idea, not main... moved

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:21 pm
by Ancient Thor
Hey Admins for ascension:D
well I hope you will do something about that cause currnetly ascending is worth way less then buying DMU's with main resources so I beg you to repair the ratios for APP

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:26 pm
by saluki2002
I thought the value was supposed to go up gradually over time, so the fix would be easy. Just increase the rate at which the value of app goes up. If i remember right that was even discussed as a possibility when there value was increased.

The rate at which there value increases could go up drastically for awhile until it becomes worthwhile to ascend for app again and then maybe slightly lowered since there value had caught up.

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:14 am
by Ancient Thor
I agree
those ratios should be fixed for at least a while.
Also they should compensate with the DMU's in the game, like the market in main.
And APP should always be worth more then buying DMU's with main resources, so the ascending would be worthwhile.

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:14 am
by TheRook
saluki2002 wrote:I thought the value was supposed to go up gradually over time, so the fix would be easy. Just increase the rate at which the value of app goes up. If i remember right that was even discussed as a possibility when there value was increased.

The rate at which there value increases could go up drastically for awhile until it becomes worthwhile to ascend for app again and then maybe slightly lowered since there value had caught up.


the value of APP:LF conversion increasing over time is working fine...

The issue is the value of resources from ascending in main far out weighs the APP you get from ascending...

Really an increasing main APP value on the ascend screen is needed to balance it back out...

Or you could do 5-6 small ascensions and then spend lots of naq/UU boosting your ascended account at a far lower cost...


TheRook

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:36 am
by Munchy
It told admin ascending would become useless again a few weeks(this was a few days after the update), but he kinda ignored me. He does that a fair bit :lol:

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:44 am
by TheRook
Munchy wrote:It told admin ascending would become useless again a few weeks(this was a few days after the update), but he kinda ignored me. He does that a fair bit :lol:

cant blame him really :) :P

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:26 pm
by Ancient Thor
well I still think that ascension should be the main reason for growth in ascension not the DMU black trading.
:D
I hope this will get fixed:D

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:04 pm
by Lore
TheRook wrote:
Munchy wrote:It told admin ascending would become useless again a few weeks(this was a few days after the update), but he kinda ignored me. He does that a fair bit :lol:

cant blame him really :) :P


Fully agree Munchy, seems the fact we play often over a long period of time matters not.

@ Rook, LOL yes we can.


The problem stems from the fact that the servers are backwards. Ascended should be a slower paced game then main. that would keep ascended goods high priced. Currently it is 10 to 20 times cheaper to buy DMU then to ascend.

In all honesty Admin has made it so that 6 quick ascentions followed by buying DMU is the only way to grow. It is insane for a power player to ascend anymore,

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:21 pm
by hidden
see right now if you ascend with 100mil uu you would get less APP then if you had used 1mil supers

its the ratios that are broken

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:52 pm
by Munchy
hidden wrote:see right now if you ascend with 100mil uu you would get less APP then if you had used 1mil supers

its the ratios that are broken


Everything is broken. You could ascend and get 100 billion lifeforce and it would be about the same as two days income for the top 50 or more incomes over there. And I don't see anyone ascending and getting 100 billion lifeforce. I got 7 billion on my last ascension and it cost me between 1/4th and 1/3rd of my main account, maybe more if you count losses of levels and whatnot. :? And mind you, my main account was 100 million army at the time.. It helped me get where I am today on the server, with a decent account. But if you did that today, I would call you abit on the foolish side. :lol:

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:42 pm
by hidden
Munchy wrote:
hidden wrote:see right now if you ascend with 100mil uu you would get less APP then if you had used 1mil supers

its the ratios that are broken


Everything is broken. You could ascend and get 100 billion lifeforce and it would be about the same as two days income for the top 50 or more incomes over there. And I don't see anyone ascending and getting 100 billion lifeforce. I got 7 billion on my last ascension and it cost me between 1/4th and 1/3rd of my main account, maybe more if you count losses of levels and whatnot. :? And mind you, my main account was 100 million army at the time.. It helped me get where I am today on the server, with a decent account. But if you did that today, I would call you abit on the foolish side. :lol:

see thats the ratios

Re: ascension power point

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:55 am
by TheRook
hidden wrote:
Munchy wrote:
hidden wrote:see right now if you ascend with 100mil uu you would get less APP then if you had used 1mil supers

its the ratios that are broken


Everything is broken. You could ascend and get 100 billion lifeforce and it would be about the same as two days income for the top 50 or more incomes over there. And I don't see anyone ascending and getting 100 billion lifeforce. I got 7 billion on my last ascension and it cost me between 1/4th and 1/3rd of my main account, maybe more if you count losses of levels and whatnot. :? And mind you, my main account was 100 million army at the time.. It helped me get where I am today on the server, with a decent account. But if you did that today, I would call you abit on the foolish side. :lol:

see thats the ratios


yup the ratios make it so its too costly to ascend in main thats where the main problem lies the amount of LF etc converted is fine... its just that main gives you such a small amount of APP when ascending