How is it I can attack someone with 364,000 naq and only come out with 15 attack turns with 151,000?
When in past I have attacked someone lower rank with near same amount of naq with 15 attack turns and get 200,000+?
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how far down the ranks were they? lower ranked than you attacks = lower rewards....
maybe they spent some before you got there
maybe they spent some before you got there
Lord_Core wrote:How is it I can attack someone with 364,000 naq and only come out with 15 attack turns with 151,000?
When in past I have attacked someone lower rank with near same amount of naq with 15 attack turns and get 200,000+?
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Forum wrote:how far down the ranks were they? lower ranked than you attacks = lower rewards....
maybe they spent some before you got thereLord_Core wrote:How is it I can attack someone with 364,000 naq and only come out with 15 attack turns with 151,000?
When in past I have attacked someone lower rank with near same amount of naq with 15 attack turns and get 200,000+?
The guy was some where ranked in the 180's and he had over 200k left after I attacked him...
I just find it hard to believe in a sense... I have attacked people with less and lower rank than this guy and pulled out near 200k +
With the cost of repairs and what not I dont attack anyone unless they have over 320k... every time I attack someone near 300k I only get 110k in return... used to get near 220k + from people with 350k +
Ok here is the attack logs... of my attacks... (not putting up the attack I suffered by Eluisve this morning of near 300k Naq lost.)
14:23 First 151,959 Naquadah stolen 15 1 1 963,897 160,797 details
Mar 22, 2005 Odin's Might 139,023 Naquadah stolen 14 2 2 details
Mar 22, 2005 Spooky06 229,190 Naquadah stolen 15 1 1 details
Mar 22, 2005 AggieMXS Attack defended 15 1 4 details
Mar 21, 2005 jay6669 170,613 Naquadah stolen 15 2 2 details
Mar 21, 2005 First 209,775 Naquadah stolen 15 1 1 details
Mar 21, 2005 Powdered_Toastman 197,075 Naquadah stolen 15 1 1 details
Mar 21, 2005 Brophis 191,419 Naquadah stolen 15 1 1 details
Mar 21, 2005 Got_Sex 99,557 Naquadah stolen 15 2 1 details
Mar 21, 2005 Emu 142,599 Naquadah stolen 15 1 2 details
Mar 20, 2005 arvinds miracles 140,028 Naquadah stolen 15 1 1 details
Mar 20, 2005 justbegladnow 126,591 Naquadah stolen 15 1 3 details
Mar 20, 2005 Vertigo 292,686 Naquadah stolen 15 1 1 details
(deleted numbers... dont want to shed around other peoples defense scores)
Those with 200k+ stolen had near 350k naq, except for Fist, who has 350k right now that I'd like to get my grubby hands on... but if I'm only going to get 150k right now forget it...
Those in the range of 150k had 250k naq when attacked...
Those in the range of 100k only had 175k+ when attacked...
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Lord_Core wrote:14:23 First 151,959 Naquadah stolen 15 1 1 963,897 160,797 details
that was when he had 364k this time I attacked him 2 ranks lower with 380k
I stole 181,000... the 1st time it cost me 11k to repair all my guns this time it cost me 30k
something isnt right here. Same amount of attack turns used.
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this is a interesting topic i have noticed ppl in the top 50 are attcking me, i am at 1000 rank area and they still take more than half my naqada from me. i assumed it was a lucky hit and ignored it, but day after day ppl in that are 900+ ranks away from me are starting to take more than half my naqada from me with 15 turns.
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SGC_Replicators wrote:this is a interesting topic i have noticed ppl in the top 50 are attcking me, i am at 1000 rank area and they still take more than half my naqada from me. i assumed it was a lucky hit and ignored it, but day after day ppl in that are 900+ ranks away from me are starting to take more than half my naqada from me with 15 turns.
Lucky hit!? Heck no, I just attacked some guy that had 560,000. I sent in my sneak peakers and couldnt see what his defense was... so I went in further and did a one attack on him stole like 20,000 naq... once I saw his defense... I went in with 15 attacks and only stole 230,000 naq! WHAT THE HECK! I didnt even get HALF of what he had...
18:36 opticallove 236,445 Naquadah stolen 15 4 1 details
18:35 opticallove 21,594 Naquadah stolen 1 4 1 details
Once again deleted numbers to protect the guy... he still has 350,000 naq left and is ranked 763
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i'm not certain here, so don't quote me but...
...i think you are forgetting a rather important factor, how well the Naquada is guarded or (better known as) -drumroll- their defences?
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...i think you are forgetting a rather important factor, how well the Naquada is guarded or (better known as) -drumroll- their defences?
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Lord_Core wrote:GhostyGoo wrote:i'm not certain here, so don't quote me but...
...i think you are forgetting a rather important factor, how well the Naquada is guarded or (better known as) -drumroll- their defences?
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Ok, Oct and Fist defense dont add up to go beyond 250k
you are missing my point so here is some randomising for you, sometimes when you rob a house you get a lovely new DVD player, other times you have to make do with a BETAmax Video Recorder and some C-90s by The Bangles (just another manic monday la la la)...
...not that i'd know anything about philanderous activities, i am a simple spirit. However, "Jack the Lad" is here in the afterlife too, and he says you should take more care with your targets, otherwise you'll get the BETAmax everytime
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GhostyGoo wrote:Lord_Core wrote:GhostyGoo wrote:i'm not certain here, so don't quote me but...
...i think you are forgetting a rather important factor, how well the Naquada is guarded or (better known as) -drumroll- their defences?
Goo
Ok, Oct and Fist defense dont add up to go beyond 250k
you are missing my point so here is some randomising for you, sometimes when you rob a house you get a lovely new DVD player, other times you have to make do with a BETAmax Video Recorder and some C-90s by The Bangles (just another manic monday la la la)...
...not that i'd know anything about philanderous activities, i am a simple spirit. However, "Jack the Lad" is here in the afterlife too, and he says you should take more care with your targets, otherwise you'll get the BETAmax everytime
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well because I dont excell at anyone stat... I am limited to my attacks... I should still get over half on a hit... and if you are hitting someone with 500k + they got a motor cycle hiddin in the garage and left the keys home... after I broke in... that bikes mine...
watched it happen on the new reality TV show about ex burglers that case houses... talk to the people that live there and trash the place stealing everything to bring it back later... in return they get a new secruity system and upgrades to the houses secruity level... kind of funny show... takes 10 mins for the guy to clean them out...
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SGC_Replicators wrote:but tell me how does a rank 1000 guy defend from a rank 50
the story with the DVD's/ Stuff is like a robber coming in with a gun and u unarmed of course ur going to be tied down and robbed like a Bi****.
will anyway defense may play some role in it but i dont think it doesn that much
which is why i randomised my answer, no one was listening to what i was saying so i decided to slip something fundamentally rather important in... heheh, now pressumably you'll all go read back at what i said, let me know how you digest it this time y'all
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what i need to really answer is:
target rank.
your rank.
(both at time of attack. rank being overall rank - not a specific rank, nor your Naq versus their Naq or anything but pure overall rank.... ).
target Naq.
turns used to attack.
Naq taken.
with that - (and your name, thier name) I can look into it properly.
I know what the min/max should be - based on the above -- and can tell you if something is wrong or not.....
thanks
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target rank.
your rank.
(both at time of attack. rank being overall rank - not a specific rank, nor your Naq versus their Naq or anything but pure overall rank.... ).
target Naq.
turns used to attack.
Naq taken.
with that - (and your name, thier name) I can look into it properly.
I know what the min/max should be - based on the above -- and can tell you if something is wrong or not.....
thanks
admin.
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Lord_Core at the attack was ranked 12 to 14 (now ranked 10 saved whole days funds to get 10+ guns)
Fist rank 185 to 195
Naq on hand at time of attack 364,000 (took 151k) and later 388,000 (181k)
Lord_Core Rank 14 at time of attack
Opticallove Rank 700+ 540,000 (took 230k)
Fist rank 185 to 195
Naq on hand at time of attack 364,000 (took 151k) and later 388,000 (181k)
Lord_Core Rank 14 at time of attack
Opticallove Rank 700+ 540,000 (took 230k)
Forum wrote:what i need to really answer is:
target rank.
your rank.
(both at time of attack. rank being overall rank - not a specific rank, nor your Naq versus their Naq or anything but pure overall rank.... ).
target Naq.
turns used to attack.
Naq taken.
with that - (and your name, thier name) I can look into it properly.
I know what the min/max should be - based on the above -- and can tell you if something is wrong or not.....
thanks
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that sounds about right...
so you attacked someone aprox 14/700ths your rank.... .there is a modifier (not a random one) that limits the amount of naq you get the further down you go.... long travel distances and all
so you attacked someone aprox 14/700ths your rank.... .there is a modifier (not a random one) that limits the amount of naq you get the further down you go.... long travel distances and all
Lord_Core wrote:Lord_Core at the attack was ranked 12 to 14 (now ranked 10 saved whole days funds to get 10+ guns)
Fist rank 185 to 195
Naq on hand at time of attack 364,000 (took 151k) and later 388,000 (181k)
Lord_Core Rank 14 at time of attack
Opticallove Rank 700+ 540,000 (took 230k)Forum wrote:what i need to really answer is:
target rank.
your rank.
(both at time of attack. rank being overall rank - not a specific rank, nor your Naq versus their Naq or anything but pure overall rank.... ).
target Naq.
turns used to attack.
Naq taken.
with that - (and your name, thier name) I can look into it properly.
I know what the min/max should be - based on the above -- and can tell you if something is wrong or not.....
thanks
admin.