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Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 5:44 pm
by GhostyGoo
My history is all documented here, somewhere ha ha and i've always said that others tell your story all the better *chuckles*

Bebita - test servers are not always the answer ha ha. i know for a fact that forum is once bugged twice exploited in that department!! :D

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 5:58 pm
by bebita
Kikaz wrote:
GhostyGoo wrote:Yep...i think with the extra ppt i get from re-creating my account i'll have a small advantage over those who do not pay to play. Those who pay to play are, of course, going to obliterate that advantage by supporting for the bonus. So, at the end of the day my tactic only depends upon a choice of wether or not you wishto keep your quantum history - how much it means to you. I think that's valid and i'm not exploiting anything so..yeah, happy with that. Of course, i'm always open to being debunked.

Well, I really wouldnt want to lose my history, again. (I already deleted my first account in wave 4) But, sounds good to me if your okay with all that. :lol:


bebita wrote:
Forum wrote:ok - rollback to midnight was not long enough....folks 'figured it out' before that.
era reset - only thing i could do....

i thank you to at least having made it obvious that it was a flaw/hole - early - so the reset was less painful.

anyway - its done. it sux, but its done....

maybe next time test server will work and we will find bugs before q wave really starts :-D
just a ideea

At that I would suggest a team of 5-10 players to test the game every wave, perferably people who are trustworthy and maybe even dont play Quantum.

That way no secrets would be leaked, and no one would have an advantage of already knowing everything about a wave.

neah
test server for everyone
24 hours ppt ends before main server
this way everyone start with the same chance
at least the guys who are bothered to check

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:22 pm
by EnVy!
@admin --- just an idea but if you looking for an incentive to use turns to fight instead of war use the ME.... i know people are worried about feeders and buddies helping buddies... so in this make it so where ME is only gained per turn at minimum amount and ME only can be gained from top 20 accounts. so if it will effect rank then finally quantum wars can stand up to its name. (wars) should have people needing rank finding themselves having to attack top 20 instead of stat building and top 20 only getting there by attacking other top ranked. it can be top 30 or whatever. just seems i dont think someone build feeder only to mass or sab but heck who knows...


so my vote is for ME as rank stat... but p.s. ME hasn't been reset atm from the bug lol.

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:25 pm
by GhostyGoo
bebita wrote:
Kikaz wrote:
GhostyGoo wrote:Yep...i think with the extra ppt i get from re-creating my account i'll have a small advantage over those who do not pay to play. Those who pay to play are, of course, going to obliterate that advantage by supporting for the bonus. So, at the end of the day my tactic only depends upon a choice of wether or not you wishto keep your quantum history - how much it means to you. I think that's valid and i'm not exploiting anything so..yeah, happy with that. Of course, i'm always open to being debunked.

Well, I really wouldnt want to lose my history, again. (I already deleted my first account in wave 4) But, sounds good to me if your okay with all that. :lol:


bebita wrote:
Forum wrote:ok - rollback to midnight was not long enough....folks 'figured it out' before that.
era reset - only thing i could do....

i thank you to at least having made it obvious that it was a flaw/hole - early - so the reset was less painful.

anyway - its done. it sux, but its done....

maybe next time test server will work and we will find bugs before q wave really starts :-D
just a ideea

At that I would suggest a team of 5-10 players to test the game every wave, perferably people who are trustworthy and maybe even dont play Quantum.

That way no secrets would be leaked, and no one would have an advantage of already knowing everything about a wave.

neah
test server for everyone
24 hours ppt ends before main server
this way everyone start with the same chance
at least the guys who are bothered to check


What does this actually solve? You all play est server and the nasty person who exploited you simply plays the test server keeping quiet and then employs the exploit once the game goes live. There is technically no difference.

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:45 pm
by HippyFool
envious wrote:@admin --- just an idea but if you looking for an incentive to use turns to fight instead of war use the ME.... i know people are worried about feeders and buddies helping buddies... so in this make it so where ME is only gained per turn at minimum amount and ME only can be gained from top 20 accounts. so if it will effect rank then finally quantum wars can stand up to its name. (wars) should have people needing rank finding themselves having to attack top 20 instead of stat building and top 20 only getting there by attacking other top ranked. it can be top 30 or whatever. just seems i dont think someone build feeder only to mass or sab but heck who knows...


so my vote is for ME as rank stat... but p.s. ME hasn't been reset atm from the bug lol.


Hey thats not a bad idea actually!

Make ME like GR points but ranked...rank 1 gets say 20 per turn, rank 2-10 gets 15, 11-20 gets 10, 21-30 gets 10, 31-40 gets 5 and 41-99 get 1

Hmm might have to make it closer than that... but it would make rank and massing high ranks much more part of this game :)

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:08 am
by EnVy!
well the idea seems like it would get more people fighting each other in top ranks... instead of all at peace... and one being scared of the other , and the other glad he scared

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:15 am
by High Empty
HippyFool wrote:
envious wrote:@admin --- just an idea but if you looking for an incentive to use turns to fight instead of war use the ME.... i know people are worried about feeders and buddies helping buddies... so in this make it so where ME is only gained per turn at minimum amount and ME only can be gained from top 20 accounts. so if it will effect rank then finally quantum wars can stand up to its name. (wars) should have people needing rank finding themselves having to attack top 20 instead of stat building and top 20 only getting there by attacking other top ranked. it can be top 30 or whatever. just seems i dont think someone build feeder only to mass or sab but heck who knows...


so my vote is for ME as rank stat... but p.s. ME hasn't been reset atm from the bug lol.


Hey thats not a bad idea actually!

Make ME like GR points but ranked...rank 1 gets say 20 per turn, rank 2-10 gets 15, 11-20 gets 10, 21-30 gets 10, 31-40 gets 5 and 41-99 get 1

Hmm might have to make it closer than that... but it would make rank and massing high ranks much more part of this game :)



Yes but no

If your going to rank it, well don't
however anyone in the top 100 that is massed ME is generated,
and naq farmed is also counted?
If you mass someone in the top 10, than you get a 2% bonus
in the top 5, a 3% bonus
and the top a 5% bonus
to ME generation.

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:16 am
by High Empty
However

YOU STATS should reflect all actions vs you
at the moment
if you defend, and kill some units, or some weapons
they are not added to your stats.

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:39 am
by jabujabu
High Empty wrote:However

YOU STATS should reflect all actions vs you
at the moment
if you defend, and kill some units, or some weapons
they are not added to your stats.


this is a problem : (
i've already massed 3 buggers already, and i've killed probably around 500 spies...
fix it (and i'll try to beat hippy's 8 bil ME last era, lmao...jk)

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:28 am
by EnVy!
good points HE...i like the ideas combined... and add the ME against you when you have losses and are ranked in top 100... like if you get farmed (farmer -gets ME and farmed- loses ME)... so forth on massings... so if someone did get a high rank it is possible to catch them if they are massed and therefor have losses against them to lower their ME. but i think you have said this before HE somewhere. so there push it on admin and see if he slide it in... we try on wednesday maybe... may have to wait though til next era.. but what i have learned is that if everyone is for it then its not a prob with admin.

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:56 pm
by Kikaz
I personally like ME the way it is, not going to bother reading everyones post. But why not make glory do something instead of changing ME..

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:38 pm
by S1eepy
i say change ME slightly.. so that naq stolen is less weighted.
maybe change
Naquadah Taken(0.0001) to (0.00001)

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 4:18 pm
by High Empty
S1eepy wrote:i say change ME slightly.. so that naq stolen is less weighted.
maybe change
Naquadah Taken(0.0001) to (0.00001)


i saw we allow for full attack logs
and, crush any account that feeds
that shielding works, but can be removed by either party for the cost of Market turn, with 48 hours notice till it's effective.

All ME that is tracked, counts both postive and negitivly

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:17 pm
by EnVy!
good post HE ... i concur ... except ME should rank and glory not. this game is chess game not checkers... people dont want to be ranked one at begining they want to buy UP etc. and build account for end. so out with glory and in with ME... and @sleepy -- yes make naq farmed a smaller amount of ME.

Re: Era 19 - Living WorldShips ...its a biggy

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:11 pm
by HippyFool
yeah naq stolen should be ranked ALOT less....at the end anyone that wants to win ME rank can just go back and forth with someone until they have stolen hundreds of trillions of naq lol