Thriller wrote:Your false dichotomy, that secret = truth: is a habit you should break
what are you talking about?
please tell me where i have said that just because something was/is hidden it must be truth!
my thinking/posting process doesn't involve anything at all along those lines, it might seem that way to you and others but nothing could be further from the truth.
so, you have a problem with a main line source which in this case just so happens to be Reuters, well AP and the BBC are also reporting the same, and its been confirmed by the researchers themselves that the emails and documents were indeed stolen but have been taken out of context...
lets look at that from 2 angles...
1, they have confirmed the documents were indeed stolen and the police also admit documents were hacked, those 2 confessions in itself confirm the story is kosher-legit...but if that's not enough, how about this then, the writer of the story called the researchers in question and they confirmed all of it still saying "its all been taken out of context".
2, how can we take out of context what they have said when it involves falsifying data, getting peers sacked and stopping opposing peers from publishing, also not releasing all their data even after a freedom of information request has been made?
but lets not ask those vital questions, lets just bury our heads in the sand and brow beat someone because of the source....
no source is ever good enough for you lot is it?!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06 ... ge-report/[spoiler]Global Warming On Trial: US Senator Inhofe Calls For Investigation Of UN IPCC
Climate change alarmists engaged in desperate whitewash, but scandal is not going away
In response to the astounding revelations arising out of the hacked CRU emails, Senator Jim Inhofe has stated that unless something is done within the next seven days, he will lead the call for a rigorous investigation into mounting evidence that top climate scientists conspired to manipulate data to hide evidence of global cooling while engaging in academic witch hunts to eliminate scientists skeptical of man-made climate change.
Speaking on the Americas Morning Show earlier today, Inhofe, Ranking Member of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, said the new revelations proved what he has been warning about for over four years, that politicians and bias-driven climate scientists affiliated with the UN IPCC have been fraudulently “cooking the science” to conform to their agenda.
“If nothing happens in the next seven days when we go back into session a week from today that would change this situation, I will call for an investigation,” said Inhofe. “Cause this thing is serious, you think about the literally millions of dollars that have been thrown away on some of this stuff that they came out with.”
Asked what he would call for an investigation of, Inhofe responded, “On the IPCC and on the United Nations on the way that they cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not.”
Meanwhile, even some pro-man made global warming advocates have conceded that an investigation is necessary.
Bob Ward, director of policy and communications at the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics, told the London Guardianthat only a rigorous investigation could clear the names of those accused of manipulating the data, admitting that the emails “created the impression of impropriety,” which is a lot further than most have gone in accepting the damning nature of the hacked data.
Indeed, the British Met Office performed the equivalent of a child sticking his fingers in his ears by merely attempting to dismiss the emails altogether, without even explaining what was meant when scientists at CRU talked about pulling “tricks” to “hide the decline” in temperatures.
A spokesman at the Met Office, which jointly produces global temperature datasets with the Climate Research Unit, said there was no need for an inquiry. “If you look at the emails, there isn’t any evidence that the data was falsified and there’s no evidence that climate change is a hoax. It’s a shame that some of the sceptics have had to take this rather shallow attempt to discredit robust science undertaken by some of the world’s most respected scientists. The bottom line is that temperatures continue to rise and humans are responsible for it. We have every confidence in the science and the various datasets we use. The peer-review process is as robust as it could possibly be. It’s no surprise, with the Copenhagen talks just days away, that this has happened now.”
As James Delingpole of the Telegraph highlights, alarmists are not going to be effected by the scandal, because they will allow nothing whatsoever to corrupt their religious belief system. “They’ve made up their minds and no quantity of contrary evidence, however devastating, is going to shake their considered position of “Nyah nyah nyah. Got my fingers in my ears. Not listening. The world IS warming and it’s man’s fault. Must tax carbon now….”
However, there seems little doubt that this bombshell will go a long way to derailing, or at least delaying the agenda for a global carbon tax that will be collected by the very same elitists aggressively pushing the fraud of global warming.
Paul Joseph Watson is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global Research Articles by Paul Joseph Watson[/spoiler]
UK Scientist: 'Case for climate fears is blown to smithereens...whole theory should be destroyed and discarded and UN conference should be closed'
http://www.climatedepot.com/http://news.google.co.uk/nwshp?hl=en&ta ... imate-gate