Well the inactive members of an alliance shouldn't contribute with naq to the alliance bank.
Right now, alliance leaders can exploit this.
If a member didn't logged in for 52h he should stop contributing to the alliance bank.
Let's take lonewolfs for example, the alliance leader + some members are active but almost half of them are inactive. Who benefits from inactives?
And there are a lot of other examples on the server, FS, TÅÅE, T I T A N S League,EPA etc.
This should be a fair game, right?
Inactive members
-
- Forum Expert
- Posts: 1165
- Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:55 am
- Alliance: THE DARK DOMINIUM
- Race: Wraith
- ID: 73475
- Location: Ida Galaxy
- Iƒrit
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 3507
- Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:15 am
- Alliance: The Legion
- Race: System Lord
- ID: 22479
- Alternate name(s): Hansel, Nighthawk
- Location: Maine
Re: Inactive members
Complaining/Crying and criticizing are two different things, I think Sabaku pointed to what he believed to be a flaw in the mechanics that should be looked at, thus he was criticizing not crying or complaining. Can't really care myself, but its valid criticism.
-
- Forum Elder
- Posts: 2114
- Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:15 pm
- Alliance: The Legion
- ID: 69113
- Location: Trading jibes with tot gotts.
Re: Inactive members
Doesnt help his case he cites alliance names that are mostly in position of direct competition for house top spots with his heh...
Just sreams "obvious agenda is obvious".
I dont see a particular problem here. Is the way it is now gamebreaking? I doubt it. Is it a good idea to star penalizing "casual players"? Again, I doubt it.
Fairness is extremely relative, especially with these houses. Little with them is fair as is. Any good reason why this of all things should get priority? Oh right TAF nabbed faith. Grave injustice indeed heh.
Just sreams "obvious agenda is obvious".
I dont see a particular problem here. Is the way it is now gamebreaking? I doubt it. Is it a good idea to star penalizing "casual players"? Again, I doubt it.
Fairness is extremely relative, especially with these houses. Little with them is fair as is. Any good reason why this of all things should get priority? Oh right TAF nabbed faith. Grave injustice indeed heh.
For Rome!
Calibretto wrote: WIR SOLLEN *insert* AUSRADIEREN
Inserted part could be you!
- Jorgensen
- Forum Regular
- Posts: 681
- Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:40 pm
- Alliance: DDE
- Race: Draeden / Love Demon
- ID: 0
- Location: Onboard The Sazorian
Re: Inactive members
The suggestion is good
Spoiler
With 16,324,769,805,579 power remaining, they manage to eliminate 1937494 of underdog's Covert Agents!
Spoiler
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 5993156 5722/5750 sabbed in one go
-
- Forum Elite
- Posts: 1916
- Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:49 am
- Alliance: none
- Race: gone
- ID: 0
- Alternate name(s): Nostradamus,Nostra,NanoBite,Drought,Darkwing Duck,Duck Dodgers,Medusa,Star Nova,System Mistress,*The Exile,ingolfúr,Belle,Lagertha.
- Location: gone
Re: Inactive members
The suggestion is indeed good.
It actualy makes dead weight, dead weight.
It actualy makes dead weight, dead weight.
- DeathIncarnator
- Fledgling Forumer
- Posts: 221
- Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:20 am
- Alliance: TÅÅE
- ID: 0
Re: Inactive members
Well we`ve known each other for a while now ~Sabaku no Gaara~, in fact from before there were Houses.
I pm`d you ingame Feb 26, 04:47
"I keep seeing you in our logs....is this a taste of more to come ?"
Now I see you again in our logs and posting about inactives on here.
We arn`t about to change the way we honour our old soldiers, and recently we have had some old faces return to carry on the good fight....which is good
So contributions to power and Alliance Naq are inconsequential.
Oh and stay out of our logs.
I pm`d you ingame Feb 26, 04:47
"I keep seeing you in our logs....is this a taste of more to come ?"
Now I see you again in our logs and posting about inactives on here.
We arn`t about to change the way we honour our old soldiers, and recently we have had some old faces return to carry on the good fight....which is good
So contributions to power and Alliance Naq are inconsequential.
Oh and stay out of our logs.
Thanks to Norbe for the sig.
You rock!
I like REK
DeathIncarnator TÅÅE I walk among you.
Bebita wrote this and it made me laugh out loud so thanks for that Bebita.
"fun
there is nothing more funny then the clones
u should go to holywood"
-
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 4042
- Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 7:42 pm
- Race: NanoTiMaster
- ID: 0
Re: Inactive members
Ok, first, I'm asking to stop the inter-alliance bickering. Yes, Sabaku shouldn't have dropped names, however there's an alliance discussion section if you want to continue that line of accusation.
If this is a point of great tension for the alliances named, I shale remove them for you. Or ask Sabaku to
Second, I agree with the idea. I would say a week (covers for MOST casual gamers if they say login on the weekend) before they stop contributing income. Otherwise people could just ask people to sign up, join their alliance, send them 100m UU to train to miners, then they stop playing. Allowing for an alliance with a single active member, to have even 10 inactives, totalling 1b unit count, to basically produce alliance income for the active player. They would also have a disproportionate vote in houses
If this is a point of great tension for the alliances named, I shale remove them for you. Or ask Sabaku to
Second, I agree with the idea. I would say a week (covers for MOST casual gamers if they say login on the weekend) before they stop contributing income. Otherwise people could just ask people to sign up, join their alliance, send them 100m UU to train to miners, then they stop playing. Allowing for an alliance with a single active member, to have even 10 inactives, totalling 1b unit count, to basically produce alliance income for the active player. They would also have a disproportionate vote in houses
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=162732
Suggestions, Comments please
Suggestions, Comments please
R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEKangel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
Ban Admin
<+CABAL> so adminHere, ever thought about playing SGW? :b
<~adminHere> cabal - i do
<+CABAL>
<+Sarevok> Cabal, look up Jtest
<~adminHere> no -not jtest
<~adminHere> another i am a multi
<+Sarevok> :O
* +CABAL screens
<+CABAL> :b
* +Sarevok Ban's Admin
- Cole
- Forum History
- Posts: 10000
- Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:45 am
- Alliance: Generations
- Race: System Lord
- ID: 7889
- Alternate name(s): Legendary Apophis, Apophis The Great, Legendary
Re: Inactive members
I would say two weeks, then. Two weeks is sign of inactivity in another game I play.
I would suggest 1/2 or 1/3 at most, but not remove. Contribution half or third for inactive accounts.
I would suggest 1/2 or 1/3 at most, but not remove. Contribution half or third for inactive accounts.
Spoiler
Recent descensions
Proud to be European!
Balthazor
Cole
Proud to be European!
Balthazor
Cole
Trade feedback
Taking this, and what was available at the time in Eagles Nest, a tribute of 2,646,700,740,469,084 Dark Matter Units was demanded, and taken,
-
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 4042
- Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 7:42 pm
- Race: NanoTiMaster
- ID: 0
Re: Inactive members
Could work i suppose. Still means there's a 500m/turn alliance income being generatedCole wrote:I would say two weeks, then. Two weeks is sign of inactivity in another game I play.
I would suggest 1/2 or 1/3 at most, but not remove. Contribution half or third for inactive accounts.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=162732
Suggestions, Comments please
Suggestions, Comments please
R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEKangel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
Ban Admin
<+CABAL> so adminHere, ever thought about playing SGW? :b
<~adminHere> cabal - i do
<+CABAL>
<+Sarevok> Cabal, look up Jtest
<~adminHere> no -not jtest
<~adminHere> another i am a multi
<+Sarevok> :O
* +CABAL screens
<+CABAL> :b
* +Sarevok Ban's Admin
- Robe
- Aussie Icon
- Posts: 3093
- Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:59 pm
- Alliance: The Legion
- Race: Vampyre
- ID: 14876
- Location: Down Under
-
Honours and Awards
Re: Inactive members
I think this is a bad suggestion because people go on vacations for up to 8 weeks at a time,
especially in between school years.
Where do you draw the line on activity?
How do you measure activity?
Who gets to decide who is active and who isn't?
People have real lives and personal commitments outside this game.
I see only downsides to this suggestion.
There is no benefit in making GW a Police State.
Why do we need to micro manage everything?
People should be free to play as they wish and manage their alliances as they wish, provided they stick within the rules.
especially in between school years.
Where do you draw the line on activity?
How do you measure activity?
Who gets to decide who is active and who isn't?
People have real lives and personal commitments outside this game.
I see only downsides to this suggestion.
There is no benefit in making GW a Police State.
Why do we need to micro manage everything?
People should be free to play as they wish and manage their alliances as they wish, provided they stick within the rules.
2011 DescensionsBuck wrote:The Great and Complex GateWars Novel!
The Forces of Light... Robe, The Novels Main Protagonist, The Polar opposite of EtL... Or is she?
Are they that different? There battles have encompassed entire careers and lives within the game, the most bitter and epic of enemies, neither will leave while the other stands... the ultimate climax, will it ever come?
Who knows. One things for sure, the Freedom Fighter is in it for the long haul, its in her head now,
and she must save the world or die trying.
2010 Descensions
Spoiler
-
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 4674
- Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:39 pm
- Alternate name(s): Wrath of Achilles
- Location: USA
Re: Inactive members
Robe wrote:I think this is a bad suggestion because people go on vacations for up to 8 weeks at a time,
especially in between school years. Going into Vac mode and going inactice is 2 different things, you should know this.
Where do you draw the line on activity?Admins job
How do you measure activity?Admins job
Who gets to decide who is active and who isn't?Admins job
People have real lives and personal commitments outside this game.
I see only downsides to this suggestion.
There is no benefit in making GW a Police State.
Why do we need to micro manage everything?
People should be free to play as they wish and manage their alliances as they wish, provided they stick within the rules.
Spoiler
R0B3RT wrote: you are like my wife
you never loose
Spoiler
Field Marshall wrote:I don't think there is a single member ingame that could take on the lion at the moment. Not a single person...
I'm a brown nose. Sue me.
- Robe
- Aussie Icon
- Posts: 3093
- Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:59 pm
- Alliance: The Legion
- Race: Vampyre
- ID: 14876
- Location: Down Under
-
Honours and Awards
Re: Inactive members
Rudy Pena wrote:Robe wrote:I think this is a bad suggestion because people go on vacations for up to 8 weeks at a time,
especially in between school years. Going into Vac mode and going inactice is 2 different things, you should know this. Indeed I do know this because I have very heavy RL commitments with my family and work. However, not everyone is like me. Not everyone wants to set vacation during busy times.
Where do you draw the line on activity?Admins jobExactly
How do you measure activity?Admins jobExactly
Who gets to decide who is active and who isn't?Admins jobExactly
People have real lives and personal commitments outside this game.
I see only downsides to this suggestion.
There is no benefit in making GW a Police State.
Why do we need to micro manage everything?
People should be free to play as they wish and manage their alliances as they wish, provided they stick within the rules.
If alliances are hording in actives, fool be them because that leaves them open to heavy farming,
which in turn leads to conflict and war.
However, there is no need to micro manage the game with suggestions to suit individual or personal conflicts.
2011 DescensionsBuck wrote:The Great and Complex GateWars Novel!
The Forces of Light... Robe, The Novels Main Protagonist, The Polar opposite of EtL... Or is she?
Are they that different? There battles have encompassed entire careers and lives within the game, the most bitter and epic of enemies, neither will leave while the other stands... the ultimate climax, will it ever come?
Who knows. One things for sure, the Freedom Fighter is in it for the long haul, its in her head now,
and she must save the world or die trying.
2010 Descensions
Spoiler
-
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 4674
- Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:39 pm
- Alternate name(s): Wrath of Achilles
- Location: USA
Re: Inactive members
Robe wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:Robe wrote:I think this is a bad suggestion because people go on vacations for up to 8 weeks at a time,
especially in between school years. Going into Vac mode and going inactice is 2 different things, you should know this. Indeed I do know this because I have very heavy RL commitments with my family and work. However, not everyone is like me. Not everyone wants to set vacation during busy times.
Where do you draw the line on activity?Admins jobExactly
How do you measure activity?Admins jobExactly
Who gets to decide who is active and who isn't?Admins jobExactly
People have real lives and personal commitments outside this game.
I see only downsides to this suggestion.
There is no benefit in making GW a Police State.
Why do we need to micro manage everything?
People should be free to play as they wish and manage their alliances as they wish, provided they stick within the rules.
If alliances are hording in actives, fool be them because that leaves them open to heavy farming,
which in turn leads to conflict and war.
However, there is no need to micro manage the game with suggestions to suit individual or personal conflicts.
But there is nothing wrong with stopping that 1% alliance tax after a while when there is no log in time.
Its giving the alliance naq for the bank, when active people can be giving more as they train more miners and lifters.
Think of it this way......Robe makes multies and builds 300k Raw UP and each account 100mil UU into miners. So Robe can get uu and naq from them.
Rudy makes an alliance and has 25 people, but with 10 inactive and still giving to the alliance bank.
Both Robe and Rudy's alliance is both making naq.
Where Robe can just increase her miners and UP to get more naq and uu. Just where as Rudy can kick the inactives to get more active people who can give more to the alliance bank by increasing there miners, which in turn will make that 1% go from say 1bil to 2bil.
Spoiler
R0B3RT wrote: you are like my wife
you never loose
Spoiler
Field Marshall wrote:I don't think there is a single member ingame that could take on the lion at the moment. Not a single person...
I'm a brown nose. Sue me.
- xDaku
- Forum Addict
- Posts: 3025
- Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:10 pm
- Alliance: Forgotten Serenity - leader
- ID: 27858
Re: Inactive members
If this was any other game, say Call of Duty or WoW or whatever, you wouldn't be penalized for the amount of time you play. I don't see why GW needs to be any different. People are allowed to play within whatever timeframe they want to and limiting and setting rules to that isn't fair on those that want to play the game but don't have as much time as some other "active" members.
Spoiler
Easy^ wrote: I am sorry if my shadow is too awesome for you to stand in.
E
MEZZANINE wrote:
Oooo I like higher math
E=Mc2*SGW = ( ( U = A*S*S ) + ( JT + $$$ + E*G*O ) ) + ( FS = AWESOME + Infinity ). Therefor FS -> DDE
Yyith wrote:Yyith says:
thats why women have small feet
get closer to the sink
Spoiler
Mezzanine wrote:Picture a hot summers day, sitting on the grass ( maybe smoking it too lol ), sun shining, cool breeze, cold beer, beautiful lady, perfect Serenity
Now picture your worst nightmare, the grass turned into trenches of mud, rain drenching you, ice winds, down to rations, surrounded by death and destruction
Turning your dreams into nightmares is what we do, heed this warning and pass it on, else you will forget your serenity forever
Blood in 2012 - Updated 1st Sep, 2012:
Spoiler
Attack Soldiers killed: 32,934,122
Defence Soldiers killed: 17,810,494
Attack Supers killed: 777,708,800
Defence Supers killed: 1,004,092,379
Spy Killers killed: 301,726,911
Spies Killed: 1,223,520,310
Total: 3,357,793,016
Raiders lost: 5,324,560
Guards lost: 14,223,773
Super Soldiers lost: 907,918,161
Super Guards lost: 654,870,558
Undercover Agents lost: 411,831,764
Assassin lost: 269,766,078
Total: 2,263,934,894
Defence Soldiers killed: 17,810,494
Attack Supers killed: 777,708,800
Defence Supers killed: 1,004,092,379
Spy Killers killed: 301,726,911
Spies Killed: 1,223,520,310
Total: 3,357,793,016
Raiders lost: 5,324,560
Guards lost: 14,223,773
Super Soldiers lost: 907,918,161
Super Guards lost: 654,870,558
Undercover Agents lost: 411,831,764
Assassin lost: 269,766,078
Total: 2,263,934,894
-
- Forum Expert
- Posts: 1217
- Joined: Sat May 23, 2009 1:50 am
- Alliance: The Legion
- Location: China Beijing
Re: Inactive members
I dont see why it should be implemented?
How about their miners leave the realm and they stop producing income, with the miners slowly dying? that way the server doesnt benefit as much as the alliance. And its the persons fault for not vac'ing after a month or something.
How about their miners leave the realm and they stop producing income, with the miners slowly dying? that way the server doesnt benefit as much as the alliance. And its the persons fault for not vac'ing after a month or something.