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Re: 2012 August

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:26 am
by Nigatsu_Aka
fem fatale wrote:not too sure about the new 5b limit though, guess you can't please everyone..



Speaking of that, a dynamic cap would be much better than setting it manually to 10% of the top account each time they/someone "beats" the system. :)

Not wanting to imply that admin has any favoritisms. :-"

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:06 pm
by Sol
Nigatsu_Aka wrote:
fem fatale wrote:not too sure about the new 5b limit though, guess you can't please everyone..



Speaking of that, a dynamic cap would be much better than setting it manually to 10% of the top account each time they/someone "beats" the system. :)

Not wanting to imply that admin has any favoritisms. :-"

It was a DDE member who suggested the change ;)
A dynamic cap would be a better way to go, but it has only been changed 3 times since the game started 6 odd years ago. It's hardly necessary.

@femme, the cap has been out for ages, and it was discussed for awhile.

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:24 am
by ƒëmmë
lol I only know about the increase to 3b.. I don't follow all the discussions about changes, ppl start taking percentages and ratios and my mind crashes :D

a question about APP and turns
1. 18000 is minimum to refill, does that refill all or is it partical

2. is 4k still the max amount of turns you can have (I was asked this on msn, but had no clue about the new Market Turn option for converting g&r to APP) I haven't played main in months.

how is APP calculated naturally on ascended.. I know I get some building up but how long would 18000 normally take?

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:19 am
by Sol
fem fatale wrote:lol I only know about the increase to 3b.. I don't follow all the discussions about changes, ppl start taking percentages and ratios and my mind crashes :D

a question about APP and turns
1. 18000 is minimum to refill, does that refill all or is it partical

2. is 4k still the max amount of turns you can have (I was asked this on msn, but had no clue about the new Market Turn option for converting g&r to APP) I haven't played main in months.

how is APP calculated naturally on ascended.. I know I get some building up but how long would 18000 normally take?

1. 18,000 is min, you trade everything you have (assuming you have 18k+) for a full refill. end of.

2. yes. If it changed then there would have been a warning in the update.
APP is naturally gained at the same rate for everyone i think... Just wait a turn change and find out how much you get.

Ya know there is nothing wrong with a bit of trial and error ;)

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:11 am
by marshall
unless demi's are involved... then trial and error sucks -_- 205q defence (rank 1) dropped in 6 mins, no demi requests #-o

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:28 pm
by Master_Splinter
Sol wrote:
fem fatale wrote:lol I only know about the increase to 3b.. I don't follow all the discussions about changes, ppl start taking percentages and ratios and my mind crashes :D

a question about APP and turns
1. 18000 is minimum to refill, does that refill all or is it partical

2. is 4k still the max amount of turns you can have (I was asked this on msn, but had no clue about the new Market Turn option for converting g&r to APP) I haven't played main in months.

how is APP calculated naturally on ascended.. I know I get some building up but how long would 18000 normally take?

1. 18,000 is min, you trade everything you have (assuming you have 18k+) for a full refill. end of.


WOW!!! I was just about to do that with 4T LF worth of APP thinking it was only going to take 18K :smt104
fem fatale thank you so much you just saved my life :smt060

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:02 am
by [BoT] Jason
Master_Splinter wrote:
Sol wrote:
fem fatale wrote:lol I only know about the increase to 3b.. I don't follow all the discussions about changes, ppl start taking percentages and ratios and my mind crashes :D

a question about APP and turns
1. 18000 is minimum to refill, does that refill all or is it partical

2. is 4k still the max amount of turns you can have (I was asked this on msn, but had no clue about the new Market Turn option for converting g&r to APP) I haven't played main in months.

how is APP calculated naturally on ascended.. I know I get some building up but how long would 18000 normally take?

1. 18,000 is min, you trade everything you have (assuming you have 18k+) for a full refill. end of.


WOW!!! I was just about to do that with 4T LF worth of APP thinking it was only going to take 18K :smt104
fem fatale thank you so much you just saved my life :smt060
"The 'exchange rate' is 408,620 life force for each 1 Ascension power point."

4T isn't enough APP ;)

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:12 am
by Sphinx42
[BoT] Jason wrote:"The 'exchange rate' is 408,620 life force for each 1 Ascension power point."

4T isn't enough APP ;)

You may have mixed up your billions and trillions there ;) 18,000 APP means 7,355,160,000 LF - that's 7 bil., not tril.

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:42 am
by Master_Splinter
Preem Palver wrote:
[BoT] Jason wrote:"The 'exchange rate' is 408,620 life force for each 1 Ascension power point."

4T isn't enough APP ;)

You may have mixed up your billions and trillions there ;) 18,000 APP means 7,355,160,000 LF - that's 7 bil., not tril.

nop I just ascended so yes 4T LF :smt047

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:10 am
by Sphinx42
Master_Splinter wrote:
Preem Palver wrote:
[BoT] Jason wrote:"The 'exchange rate' is 408,620 life force for each 1 Ascension power point."

4T isn't enough APP ;)

You may have mixed up your billions and trillions there ;) 18,000 APP means 7,355,160,000 LF - that's 7 bil., not tril.

nop I just ascended so yes 4T LF :smt047

As you can see, I was replying to the Jason :) 18,000 APP is 7 bil. LF, while your 4 trillions means about 10 million APP - I figured it was obviously from an ascension, so I didn't mention it.

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:37 am
by Sol
APP -> LF has a different rate for everyone

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:50 am
by Master_Splinter
Preem Palver wrote:
Master_Splinter wrote:
Preem Palver wrote:
[BoT] Jason wrote:"The 'exchange rate' is 408,620 life force for each 1 Ascension power point."

4T isn't enough APP ;)

You may have mixed up your billions and trillions there ;) 18,000 APP means 7,355,160,000 LF - that's 7 bil., not tril.

nop I just ascended so yes 4T LF :smt047

As you can see, I was replying to the Jason :) 18,000 APP is 7 bil. LF, while your 4 trillions means about 10 million APP - I figured it was obviously from an ascension, so I didn't mention it.

sorry didnt look that hard :P #-o

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:50 am
by Sphinx42
Sol wrote:APP -> LF has a different rate for everyone

Is the rate exchange rate different, or the generation rate? 'Cause it says almost the same thing for me on Cosmic Trade ("The 'exchange rate' is 408,630 life force for each 1 Ascension power point."). And if I do the math (LF I would get from the exchange right now/APP I have), it also works out.

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:57 am
by Sol
Preem Palver wrote:
Sol wrote:APP -> LF has a different rate for everyone

Is the rate exchange rate different, or the generation rate? 'Cause it says almost the same thing for me on Cosmic Trade ("The 'exchange rate' is 408,630 life force for each 1 Ascension power point."). And if I do the math (LF I would get from the exchange right now/APP I have), it also works out.

generation of APP and LF is the same i believe, the actual exchange rate differs between people.

Re: 2012 August

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:25 am
by ƒëmmë
Master_Splinter wrote:
Sol wrote:
fem fatale wrote:lol I only know about the increase to 3b.. I don't follow all the discussions about changes, ppl start taking percentages and ratios and my mind crashes :D

a question about APP and turns
1. 18000 is minimum to refill, does that refill all or is it partical

2. is 4k still the max amount of turns you can have (I was asked this on msn, but had no clue about the new Market Turn option for converting g&r to APP) I haven't played main in months.

how is APP calculated naturally on ascended.. I know I get some building up but how long would 18000 normally take?

1. 18,000 is min, you trade everything you have (assuming you have 18k+) for a full refill. end of.


WOW!!! I was just about to do that with 4T LF worth of APP thinking it was only going to take 18K :smt104
fem fatale thank you so much you just saved my life :smt060


lol your welcome, just got to get that 18k myself.. generating about 1k a day atm :(