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Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:06 am
by JasonJay
Harakash Maha Vishnu wrote:JasonJay wrote:Raiding to ascended is retarded to the max
It may well be, but if you cannot put in a why ? then no one will listen.
Too many players throw in comments which don't add jack to the discussion.
If you have a reason say it, as it may be an variable that someone has not thought about.
Was on the crapper, now on the laptop
Raiding will increase the benefit of sniping by quite a bit as massers would have a quite huge supply of UU as their inactive farms CER increase as they're planet count decreases. Making it quite sustainable. This then would make it not too beneficial to go past lets say 10 bil planets as the cap I would guess would also be 5 bil.
And that then leaves two options for the not snipers, have all your UU raided or be massed to get the naq that all your miners make.
Better Vishy?
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:12 pm
by Maha Vishnu
JasonJay wrote:Harakash Maha Vishnu wrote:JasonJay wrote:Raiding to ascended is retarded to the max
It may well be, but if you cannot put in a why ? then no one will listen.
Too many players throw in comments which don't add jack to the discussion.
If you have a reason say it, as it may be an variable that someone has not thought about.
Was on the crapper, now on the laptop
Raiding will increase the benefit of sniping by quite a bit as massers would have a quite huge supply of UU as their inactive farms CER increase as they're planet count decreases. Making it quite sustainable. This then would make it not too beneficial to go past lets say 10 bil planets as the cap I would guess would also be 5 bil.
And that then leaves two options for the not snipers, have all your UU raided or be massed to get the naq that all your miners make.
Better Vishy?
Yes much better. You see you learned a valuable lesson, that you cannot articulate yourself whilst on the crapper
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:34 pm
by Sol
Harakash Maha Vishnu wrote:Something must be done with players just let planets build up.
Or have it that if a player builds up, does X amount of attacks then he is deemed active and his gowth planets can be massed/raided etc. This will stop players being massed in war, just sitting there for a few weeks then build up planets and then mass back.
It should be that you can keep the player on the ropes all the time if need be. You can maybe set a limit to players with low CER to prevent this happening but at the moment players are being hit by snipers and have naff all to mass.
In main, sniping has been reduced a lot. It is started to creep into ascended.
I don't think growth planets should be massed/raided, at all, it's a terrible solution for a sniper issue really. They produce income, however arbitrarily small, so they are not doing anything. Even untrained planets produce income.
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:48 am
by Couzens
just increase the income they make even more
or remove income planets altogether and just have untrained planets which produce the same dmu as income planets
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:42 pm
by Sol
That wouldn't fix any issue :p
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:22 am
by Couzens
ofc it would, we wouldn't mind a player sat there with 20bil untrained planets if they made a decent amount of dmu because we would farm it and be happies
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:49 am
by Sol
Couzens wrote:ofc it would, we wouldn't mind a player sat there with 20bil untrained planets if they made a decent amount of dmu because we would farm it and be happies
Increasing income per planet will just mean the few that produce enough income to farm will produce it faster, won't solve many issues just means the stronger get stronger.
To a point (which it's bordering on now) there needs to be the quantity not quality, producing income.
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:23 am
by hokiehomeboy
This thread should be resurrected. Lots of snipers sitting around with all of their planets untrained. You can't even farm them. Perhaps an attack mission would be a great idea. They can DM or sab you without offering so much as a nibble of DMU to farm in return. If you make it your attack vs. their defense it will encource people to actually build a defense. If you want to kill their UU then you have to mass their defense or kill UU through defense if you are powerful enough. Maybe it should be moved to a new thread but this idea needs to be brought back up.
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:26 am
by Sniperwax
hokiehomeboy wrote:This thread should be resurrected. Lots of snipers sitting around with all of their planets untrained. You can't even farm them. Perhaps an attack mission would be a great idea. They can DM or sab you without offering so much as a nibble of DMU to farm in return. If you make it your attack vs. their defense it will encource people to actually build a defense. If you want to kill their UU then you have to mass their defense or kill UU through defense if you are powerful enough. Maybe it should be moved to a new thread but this idea needs to be brought back up.
+1
A server at full scale war with untrained planets being mainly the only thing worth killing presently. Work your magic Sol!
*Edit: And we should also be able to kill Lorde
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:32 am
by hokiehomeboy
Sniperwax wrote:
*Edit: And we should also be able to kill Lorde
+1 I hate everything that she is.
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:35 am
by Chacho
Sniperwax wrote:hokiehomeboy wrote:This thread should be resurrected. Lots of snipers sitting around with all of their planets untrained. You can't even farm them. Perhaps an attack mission would be a great idea. They can DM or sab you without offering so much as a nibble of DMU to farm in return. If you make it your attack vs. their defense it will encource people to actually build a defense. If you want to kill their UU then you have to mass their defense or kill UU through defense if you are powerful enough. Maybe it should be moved to a new thread but this idea needs to be brought back up.
+1
A server at full scale war with untrained planets being mainly the only thing worth killing presently. Work your magic Sol!
*Edit: And we should also be able to kill Lorde
Speaking as someone who has all their planets as untrained... I actually agree with this. It is all too easy to just sit with 15b untrained, put em in cov and kill or farm everything and then sit untouchable again. It really would add some extra strategical thinking and fun to the game...
It needs proper consideration on how it should be done, what the losses to the attacker are are the most important bit in my mind, it should be a fairly high loss but not as bad as Lifer Suicide in main..
Edit: Lorde must die... ALL HAIL AVICII!
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:21 am
by Sol
Along comes a war and now you want all it.
Too late
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:34 am
by Sniperwax
Sol wrote:Along comes a war and now you want all it.
Too late
Not true! Lots wanted it before and just want it more now. (Evil French cackle noise)
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:48 am
by hokiehomeboy
Sol wrote:Along comes a war and now you want all it.
Too late
I'm not sorry that I am no forum warrior, and if I had known about this topic I would have voiced my opinion prior to now. I was just pointed this topic tonight. If you want to keep allowing sniper accounts on "your" server then that is fair enough. I realize that you are not just admin but also play and have your own interests to protect. But your alliance is not yet involved in this conflict so maybe you can take a step back and look at it from an unbiased perspective.
Re: Allow for the destruction of Undeveloped Planets.
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:20 am
by EbilCC
lol at this cry me a river u cant force people to build on main or ascended tough tities everyone