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Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:30 am
by Slim87R
Sol wrote:
Slim87R wrote:
Sol wrote:
Clockwork wrote:
Sol wrote:I do play the game :P I actually have two accounts 8-[.


OMG multi! :P

Multies are aloud :P, only two though.


And only through playing Newgrounds right? RIGHT?

I did, I was one of the first to play newgrounds (not even sure if Juliette was on there before I was...).


You were the one that was always under PPT correct? Oh wait, that was Forum.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:35 am
by Sol
Slim87R wrote:
Sol wrote:
Slim87R wrote:
Sol wrote:
Clockwork wrote:
Sol wrote:I do play the game :P I actually have two accounts 8-[.


OMG multi! :P

Multies are aloud :P, only two though.


And only through playing Newgrounds right? RIGHT?

I did, I was one of the first to play newgrounds (not even sure if Juliette was on there before I was...).


You were the one that was always under PPT correct? Oh wait, that was Forum.

yup, I'm hardcore so I usually stay off ppt.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:47 am
by Xiaoli
Yes yes Sol, you do 'play'. For what that is worth. If you can't see the difference between a dev account who has no real play and a real account then pfff.
Fixing the LF to the amount of planets is hilarious at best. This means anyone still ascending can't wage war anymore, and is better off just keeping there account statless, because of the already stupid slow growth in ascended. Great thinking there. Nobody wants to wait a year to spend LF, gathered in 3 months in main. This game was about effort = reward. Now it is $ = reward or effort = waiting till you grow old.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:07 pm
by KOS
this sounded cool at first but now that i have ascended again, i have to say im not a fan. would actually be just fine if there was still the option to take all the LF if you need it. as it is now, i wouldnt get it all the APP until its time to ascend again... and maybe im still doing it wrong but the points i got for ascending was rather dissappointing IMO, i can farm up what i got for ascending in 10 mins...

another question is about my fleets. seems that since i passed the 5bil planets mark, my fleets "shrunk" it is correct on my introspection page, but on the main page its like i am losing 200mil planets/day... can you help me understand that?

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:06 am
by Clockwork
KOS wrote:another question is about my fleets. seems that since i passed the 5bil planets mark, my fleets "shrunk" it is correct on my introspection page, but on the main page its like i am losing 200mil planets/day... can you help me understand that?


Perfectly normal. After you reach 5b planet size, your rate of growth slows. You can see your actual growth rate on your 'Cosmic Development' page, just under the number of fleets you have.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:26 am
by Cwalen
The problem is, you need someone with a profound understanding of game dynamics.

Someone who can balance the loud voices and entrenched interests of established players, yet who has a fresh mind and understands the need to bring new players a meaningful experience.

Someone who can hold the whole picture in their head, and balance the conflicting requirements of a disparate group, including those who do not have a voice. Someone who can cut code, dance through the politics, work for nothing, listen to players and know when to ignore them.

Walking on water, turning it into wine, and converting vitamin pills into amphetamines are optional extras.

Sol is way cool.
St Francis of Ausicci might get tempted to kick dogs given the difficulty and pressures of the job.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:21 am
by KOS
thanks, i do see that now about the fleets. and i guess the APP is not a huge loss, i will just need to show up in a lot more logs to get where i want. actually, other than in the main server, an ascension doesn't help at all, looks like we get the same amount of APP from ascending as we would just spending the gnr and market turn, and not ascend... but then that would hurt your main...

i have no use for extra turns at my lvl i guess, never needed any extra and am close to popping into the top 10 for most hostile players... my new goal!

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:23 pm
by Cwalen
I cannot agree with anything in Xiaoli's first line.

After that he raises some good points.

You know the flag I fly, new players, new energy, new consumers of SS and in-game trade.

In ASC, especially we have no reason to fear some punk with his mothers credit card upsetting the whole apple cart.
APP -> LF protects us from the commercial realities of main. They could buy billions of trillions of NAQ, ascend powerfully a few times a day, having worked out the system well enough to do it. If someone wants to spend a few thousand dollars to play with the big dogs? why stop them?

My concern is, what are the reasonable barriers to being able to play. How many dollars, how many hours, how many years?

The imaginary punk above would still get beaten **Filtered**, unless he found a way of buying undecendable straight off.
Even then?

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:57 am
by Sol
Cwalen wrote:I cannot agree with anything in Xiaoli's first line.

After that he raises some good points.

You know the flag I fly, new players, new energy, new consumers of SS and in-game trade.

In ASC, especially we have no reason to fear some punk with his mothers credit card upsetting the whole apple cart.
APP -> LF protects us from the commercial realities of main. They could buy billions of trillions of NAQ, ascend powerfully a few times a day, having worked out the system well enough to do it. If someone wants to spend a few thousand dollars to play with the big dogs? why stop them?

My concern is, what are the reasonable barriers to being able to play. How many dollars, how many hours, how many years?

The imaginary punk above would still get beaten **Filtered**, unless he found a way of buying undecendable straight off.
Even then?

Said Imaginary punk would be waiting literally years to get his return in LF from his APP, if he ascended with a very beefed up main.
That is the only barrier as it is currently the only way $$ are apart of ascended (with the exception of p2p trades). I don't really see the need to cap it, if someone wants to spend a stack of mullah in main to - very slowly- appease his ascended being then he may.

100 trill per 10 bill equates to about 5 months to receive it all, what you gain is independent of how much APP you have, ergo ascending with more doesn't get you anywhere faster.
Even with 20 odd bill planets you gain 100 trill about a week or two faster.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:56 am
by Cwalen
That is what I like about this function.

No more shot of steroids in the side of the eye.
No more weird arbitrary 5 month periods.

Punks do not stand a chance of instant gratification, even if they have thousands of dollars for players or admin.

Ill restate till I am blue in the face, the fun is in being part of an active pack.

We want players to have fun, we either need to get them into our pack or, get them a pack of their own.

The logistics of packing up new players being beyond the scope of this thread. I focus on getting new people into the pack.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:50 pm
by InTuItIoN
If I knew this update was on the horizon I wouldn't have wiped 30B planets from my expanse.

Just ascended again and this the has done next to nothing for me :(

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:52 pm
by ƒëmmë
so far works for me, :)

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:20 pm
by Warrsy
Just thought i'd ask seeing as i still don't really know much about this and i am still ascending...

I have 71t lfc waiting to convert so if i ascend in 3 weeks clearly not all of it will be converted. Does this mean that if i were to ascend again and get another 71t that it would stack or would it just top it up to 99t?

Sorry if it seems a stupid question.

Joe.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:24 pm
by Sol
Warrsy614 wrote:Just thought i'd ask seeing as i still don't really know much about this and i am still ascending...

I have 71t lfc waiting to convert so if i ascend in 3 weeks clearly not all of it will be converted. Does this mean that if i were to ascend again and get another 71t that it would stack or would it just top it up to 99t?

Sorry if it seems a stupid question.

Joe.

stack, there are no caps now.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:30 pm
by Guild
we planning on sorting the descending thing we all agreed upon like a month ago r is that forgotten, cos we all actually liked the idea 8-[