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Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 3:37 am
by Phobetor
Clockwork wrote:
Phobetor wrote:
Sol wrote:Fyi it will be changed soon, due to the new ascensions.
That is what I like to hear!
until you find out it's being slowed down :twisted:
Haha that would be funny I would admit lol

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 1:41 pm
by frazz
There's lots of things that can be done with this

Tied to the following things
Rank
Size
Flat percentage
Set time limits
And many more


However if slowed down then there's no massive incentive to ascend with anything bare min at max

The games are tied there is an economical balance that does have to be kept between farming turn refill is an issue as well

That could be removed turns limits increase generated and held

I do think sol has done a pretty good job with ascended just this is something that needs fixed and has for a while

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:26 pm
by Support
Going to be interesting and .. special. :smt047
Sol wrote:Fyi it will be changed soon, due to the new ascensions.

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:42 pm
by frazz
Support wrote:Going to be interesting and .. special. :smt047
Sol wrote:Fyi it will be changed soon, due to the new ascensions.

Tease haha

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 2:53 pm
by ~Tziki~
red1 minshu wrote:something should be done now that the new ascensions are here
So now that more people want it, you admit it needs changing, but because only a select few had argued about it for so long it didnt need changing?

Its a bit disappointing that suddenly this needs addressing, when in reality it always did and went unrecognised, cant help but take that personally.

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 3:16 pm
by Clockwork
If it's any consolation, I still don't think it should be changed, everybody has a choice of either waiting for safe conversion, or taking the turns refresh and 'playing' the game.

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 3:36 pm
by reborn
Clockwork wrote:If it's any consolation, I still don't think it should be changed, everybody has a choice of either waiting for safe conversion, or taking the turns refresh and 'playing' the game.

I will still disagree with that. For some simple reasons.

Now the cost of my account im ascending with on a rought count is 25,4quad on just covert lvls u,p around 200tri. So lets just call that 26quad.

Now to ascend that now gives 3,3bil lf that gives u 2,075tri LF.

Now you can buy DMU at 1-1 so really ur already losing some there cus u shoudl be getting 2,600LF if you was to buy just dmu. That LF comes instant.

Thats one way of looking at it.

But i know im over an adv farmer but quite a few have started picking up there pace too instead of just slacking.

In just over 2 and half yrs i have farmed almost 60quint dmu thats 6,000 LF.

But the converting at current rate of dmu for a 1/3 would take 3,345 days thats Just over 9 yrs.

So something that takes 9 yrs to covert , when u can farm 3 times more in just 2,5 yrs. Seems it needs fixing slightly.

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 6:56 pm
by Sol
I will say this now so you don't get your hopes up. The general balance of time v app will be maintained. I.e. expect to get less if it comes faster.

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 12:12 am
by reborn
So if its going back to old way, like a few things in main has, why dont we get the convert all button back too?

Ive already showed even at current APP , its better to buy DMU than spend naq in main on your account to boost ascended. By a little bit.

What your saying is, just dont spend naq at all now in main if u want better ascended just buy DMU.

Spending naq on your account in main was meant to help ascended, with less its dont spend anything on your main account.

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 7:39 am
by frazz
Sol wrote:I will say this now so you don't get your hopes up. The general balance of time v app will be maintained. I.e. expect to get less if it comes faster.
thing is people do have massive amounts of naq tied up in covert levels etc on main when i came back i suggested ascended lvls should be opened up even then but in the last year and bit due to wars the covert levels have increased

there has to be some incentive to actually ascend at the moment there is none

why should i ascend just use main on ppt runs to get gnr and turn refill and farm more on ascended

the balance has to be there so both servers are played to full potential otherwise risk killing one off or the other

the rate it drops is to slow again i mentioned this when i came back


I was going to ascend tonight but not going to anymore untill this is sorted

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 7:39 am
by ~Tziki~
That also means, that when your being forced to have higher stats to ascend, and invest more, your then going to force people to either lose that naq completely and lose all the APP so you can continue farming and growing at an acceptable rate.

Or you can just not ascend.


Im sorry SoL, but your logic is now beyond silly.
Your actually influencing both servers by refusing to acknowledge that the APP conversion rate holds people back instead of helping them, and with the new update will actually hold people back even more. Either by them not wanting to ascend and lose main stats and gain nothing for it on ascended, or by knowing if they do gain a nice amount of APP, then they have to be a lot less active on ascended becaues they cant utilise as many turns as other players who arent restricted by their APP and Turn's generation.


So.. do you want people to play ascended? because now your making all your hard work into tournaments irrelevant when people can no longer compete fairly unless they have sacrifice the investment that main demands they sacrifice.

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 10:42 am
by ombre
I would suggest that the APP conversion should be faster for smaller or weaker accounts compare to big ones. This way it would have time to catch the others.

Re: Speed up APP conversion

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:39 pm
by Support
Hi guys!

Go here to read the current stance and progress statement of our revision of APP and APP conversion.

We are archiving this thread, including its many great ideas and substantial feedback. Discussion of the coming updates and ideas presented in that thread can take place in the new thread.