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IF either of you has any glory worth mentioning....Under 40% of their GnR you can attack them only 5 x day, and may not sab.

I was just told that Arty Bang massed/sabbed FluffyBunny.(thank you for getting me 1 day of not being hit )
It seems that Arty could do whatever he chooses to do to Fluffy but Fluffy could only hit Arty 5 times, nothing more. So fluffy had no chance to defend or have an online battle with Arty.

How is that even right? While I understand the reasoning behind the rule it just seems to be counter productive. I just looked at it and it appears that I can't touch the top 3 anymore due to GnR restrictions.
So at this rate it seems that near the end of the era when the massing and fun stupidness comes out there are people that don't have to worry about anything because they have so much GnR. Also allows them to setup who ever they want to win the era.

I think it might be time to re-evaluate the ruling and work on something better.

Maybe
If war/war then no restrictions
maybe like mine's bloodwar concept we could impose if you do X amount then there is no restrictions.

It appears that is why the 1000% was in there so it stopped it from going both ways.

If there is no use for GnR then perhaps the 5 hit restriction should be removed completely

Arty is below the 1000% because I have more G&R than him and I'm only at 918.04 higher than his G&R. But otherwise that does explain why he didn't try and fight back when i was just hitting him. Which was no fun when I knew he was online at the time and he did nothing to retaliate.

ZAC wrote:Arty is below the 1000% because I have more G&R than him and I'm only at 918.04 higher than his G&R. But otherwise that does explain why he didn't try and fight back when i was just hitting him. Which was no fun when I knew he was online at the time and he did nothing to retaliate.

So I have you and LoD to thank for dropping him. Lets hope he doesn't start farming harder

the 100% cap was removed already. Its a shame Haz hasn't implemented a new system.

Was told this had been fixed last night.

Tried this out today and still not fixed, can sab ppl that is below us on the 40% , but they can not sab up even though both r active.

And can we have the % changed to idk 10-15%.

Its such a shame that u can play the whole wave yet not able to mass ppl, atm just speaking for myself I can not mass 6 ppl, come the end of the wave even though im staying around rank 15 the whole time there will still b ppl can not.

Not saying I am going to, but already knowing I cant makes me want to

rather boring, taking the massing part out of the game.

Can understand trying to stop snipers, but the % is way to high.

I think your the one failing to see the point here Jack.


I agree the sniping is bad but

Im no sniper and yet ive played whole wave been on 1 page whole time, and there is already 7 ppl I can not mass or sab.

Yet these same 7 ppl can mass and sab me. Even though was told last night it was fixed.

It is not.

Now at current rate if I stay ranked lets say 15, would u call that a sniper? I think not, but end of wave there will still b 7 if not more ppl I still can not mass or sab.

The % is wrong.

Or top 10 should not get so much maybe 3. Only what 30 ish ppl playing so no idea why top 100 should all get G&R anyway.

But I will say again, even though was told this G&R was fixed were both ppl can sab/mass , its not. Still works just one way , and that being down.

I cant see whats wrong with changing it, if they cant mass/sab u, u can not mass/sab them. I would of thought % would sort it, because atm ppl ranked high can do w/e they want to lower ppl and not have to worry about being mass/sabbed back because they cant.

reborn wrote:I think your the one failing to see the point here Jack.


I agree the sniping is bad but

Im no sniper and yet ive played whole wave been on 1 page whole time, and there is already 7 ppl I can not mass or sab.

Yet these same 7 ppl can mass and sab me. Even though was told last night it was fixed.

It is not.

Now at current rate if I stay ranked lets say 15, would u call that a sniper? I think not, but end of wave there will still b 7 if not more ppl I still can not mass or sab.

The % is wrong.

Or top 10 should not get so much maybe 3. Only what 30 ish ppl playing so no idea why top 100 should all get G&R anyway.

But I will say again, even though was told this G&R was fixed were both ppl can sab/mass , its not. Still works just one way , and that being down.

I cant see whats wrong with changing it, if they cant mass/sab u, u can not mass/sab them. I would of thought % would sort it, because atm ppl ranked high can do w/e they want to lower ppl and not have to worry about being mass/sabbed back because they cant.

There is already some that want to mass a group out of the top 10 so they can't earn enough GnR to mass anyone.

TheLost wrote:

reborn wrote:I think your the one failing to see the point here Jack.


I agree the sniping is bad but

Im no sniper and yet ive played whole wave been on 1 page whole time, and there is already 7 ppl I can not mass or sab.

Yet these same 7 ppl can mass and sab me. Even though was told last night it was fixed.

It is not.

Now at current rate if I stay ranked lets say 15, would u call that a sniper? I think not, but end of wave there will still b 7 if not more ppl I still can not mass or sab.

The % is wrong.

Or top 10 should not get so much maybe 3. Only what 30 ish ppl playing so no idea why top 100 should all get G&R anyway.

But I will say again, even though was told this G&R was fixed were both ppl can sab/mass , its not. Still works just one way , and that being down.

I cant see whats wrong with changing it, if they cant mass/sab u, u can not mass/sab them. I would of thought % would sort it, because atm ppl ranked high can do w/e they want to lower ppl and not have to worry about being mass/sabbed back because they cant.

There is already some that want to mass a group out of the top 10 so they can't earn enough GnR to mass anyone.

It has not been fixed. I am still reviewing it.

Haz wrote:

TheLost wrote:

reborn wrote:I think your the one failing to see the point here Jack.


I agree the sniping is bad but

Im no sniper and yet ive played whole wave been on 1 page whole time, and there is already 7 ppl I can not mass or sab.

Yet these same 7 ppl can mass and sab me. Even though was told last night it was fixed.

It is not.

Now at current rate if I stay ranked lets say 15, would u call that a sniper? I think not, but end of wave there will still b 7 if not more ppl I still can not mass or sab.

The % is wrong.

Or top 10 should not get so much maybe 3. Only what 30 ish ppl playing so no idea why top 100 should all get G&R anyway.

But I will say again, even though was told this G&R was fixed were both ppl can sab/mass , its not. Still works just one way , and that being down.

I cant see whats wrong with changing it, if they cant mass/sab u, u can not mass/sab them. I would of thought % would sort it, because atm ppl ranked high can do w/e they want to lower ppl and not have to worry about being mass/sabbed back because they cant.

There is already some that want to mass a group out of the top 10 so they can't earn enough GnR to mass anyone.

It has not been fixed. I am still reviewing it.

There you have it.
It's also a lot more difficult to get in top 10 than top 20. Requires very few stats. I haven't touched my strike in over 2 weeks probably, and it's #20. So while you might not be a sniper, in a game with so few active players, one can easily be in top 20 with sniper stats. Top 10 is difficult, #1 is impossible with sniper stats. Everything else is easily doable.

I have proposed a solution and I think Haz agrees with it. It is a bit harder to implement so it will take time.
If you want to mass someone, just stay in top 10 long enough and you'll be able to do it. I can't mass everyone, but I made sure, by staying in top 10 long enough, that I can mass and sab those who annoy me. I fail to see the problem here, as anyone can do the same. The only thing it requires are resources. But then again, others have to spend a lot to be in top 10 as well.

Until Haz tells you personally or announces it's fixed, don't believe it's fixed. As simple as that.
When it is fixed, those below 40% will be able to retaliate against those who they couldn't retaliate before, but only for a certain time period and if those above start the aggression. I think it's fair that way. Those who spend their resources getting GnR that way aren't penalized by not being able to sab someone who farms them, while those who get sabbed will be able to retaliate. And, as I've said before, there are plenty of features that aid those who start late in the era - which also means they aid snipers - and hinder those in front. What's wrong with one feature that protects everyone against snipers (and it only protects the "top" as much because the top are the most frequent target of snipers, consequently you're only looking at it from a perspective of someone who can't mass top, yet you don't realize someone who starts in the last week of the era won't be able to mass someone who stayed in top 100 all the time and spent a bit of time in top 10 either)?

~Jack

Was passed on it was fixed from rob between him and Jo which I saw convo too saying it was fixed.

As for your suggestion were it does look nice it itself has falls to it.

The one being higher gets to choose when they want to mass and sab, and only then ppl lower have get a chance to return.

This them being after mass/sab being less units or weapons lost, its not really fair again.

Them being already at only 5 hits is fair already imo, whats wrong is the one being higher is not 5 hits back, they can just mass.

The one being lower cant not sab, yet one being higher can.

Im not sure whats so hard to understand, they can only hit 5 times, so make it the same, they can not sab so again make it the same.

Come the end of the era they cant mass anyone so im not sure why u worried about a sniper that cant mass.

If one can do it right away so should the one being hit, not oh I want to mass these today, now they can have a chance to mass me back in such a time frame.

Again with this Sniping...

I keep hearing different definitions of sniping.

So what is the defined idea of sniping?