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Re: Don't buy UU's when price is over 700b/1m

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:43 am
by Enter Shikari
Blah di da! people were complaining about this update making a bigger gap between Big players and small with the Big players able to buy up to the Cap very easily , raising the prices balences it out so small players selling UU can make a bigger profit to efford UP or Levels or whatver, im just saying that if Bigger players can afford it then why cant the smaller players make a good profit from the UU they have earned.

Re: Don't buy UU's when price is over 700b/1m

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:54 am
by TheRook
Enter Shikari wrote:Blah di da! people were complaining about this update making a bigger gap between Big players and small with the Big players able to buy up to the Cap very easily , raising the prices balences it out so small players selling UU can make a bigger profit to efford UP or Levels or whatver, im just saying that if Bigger players can afford it then why cant the smaller players make a good profit from the UU they have earned.


stop that...

stop speaking the truth :)

Re: Don't buy UU's when price is over 700b/1m

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:31 am
by Dark Bahamut
all the small players will sell their uu and the big players will get bigger and then the small players with crap incomes cos they sold their uu will go

"oh wait we cant actuaqlly buy at that rate"
wen that happens i wont care
ill be waiting for the new cap update
enjoy your market
not to mention that the market is closely related with the game itself so it will greatly influence the game


oh and rising uu prices will rise at's and then ya wont be able to raid either
so have fun noobs, soprry for thinking ahead and trying to help ya out, i guess im a bully, might as well act like one if im gonna be called it anyway



pfft knobs

Re: Don't buy UU's when price is over 700b/1m

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:11 am
by TheRook
not to bring this thread up from the dead but in keeping the discussion going

top current UU threads wrote: Buying UU: 1.5M for 650M/k
by Acheron on Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:02 pm 3 Replies 16 Views Last post by Acheron
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:24 am
Buying UU @ 700 mil/k
by compmage on Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:43 pm 4 Replies 26 Views Last post by kaktus'
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:16 am
Buying 500k UU (620mil / 1k )
by marko on Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:53 am 0 Replies 1 Views Last post by marko
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:53 am
closed for now
by fjiekie on Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:31 am 2 Replies 7 Views Last post by fjiekie
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:42 am
Buying UU 630M per K
1, 2by grimgor on Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:55 pm 15 Replies 112 Views Last post by grimgor
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:06 am
Buying uu's - 650 bil = 1 mil
1, 2by Hell§inG on Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:49 pm 18 Replies 115 Views Last post by Myseri
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:57 am
Buying 600K UU each day
by Lord kurnous on Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:13 am 1 Replies 13 Views Last post by Myseri
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:47 am
buying 400k UU for 240bill
by thejokerau on Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:47 am 0 Replies 1 Views Last post by thejokerau
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:47 am
Done For Now
by Unimatrix881 on Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:28 am 12 Replies 80 Views Last post by Dark Bahamut
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:33 am
Buying UU, 710mil/k
by Krolnasz on Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:14 pm 3 Replies 46 Views Last post by Dark Bahamut
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:31 am
BUYING 500K UU FOR 630 MILL / 1K UU
by razerwire on Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:13 pm 1 Replies 8 Views Last post by razerwire
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:51 am
Buying UU 650mil/1k
by Netsuai on Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:01 pm 1 Replies 27 Views Last post by SVaRuN
on Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:37 am
Buying UU 600mils/per 1k
by SVaRuN on Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:48 am 14 Replies 270 Views Last post by SVaRuN


now look at all those threads the most recent 13 threads... all BUYING UU which shows a tremendous jump in demand due to the new caps... while I can see the point in keeping prices low for the smaller guys... at the same point these big guys who can now buy UU have much more naq and can buy more at this cheaper rate....

what does this mean... well at the cheaper rate the bigger guys will soon reach the cap and no longer be able to buy anymore... but wait... they can buy an extra 50mill UU which is sent to a friend... then raided so that means people at 80mill armysize can in theory buy 70mill UU from the market...

TheoryCraft!
now picture 20 people at that size doing the same thing or perhaps just buying 50mill UU to raid from someone else...

thats 20 x 50mill = 1,000,000,000

So thats 1 billion units these guys can buy at a cheaper rate and they can buy in larger numbers... and who are the people that sell? those below 50mill armysize usually

So those people below 50mill armysize selling 1 billion UU at say 650mill/k thats
65,000,000,000,000 naq for that 1billion UU those 20 people could buy over time...

Now your think thats great because the smaller people can benefit from that naq of selling their UU... but the small people still cant keep up and the big guys will ALWAYS have a thread open buying UU constantly so their little threads wont get a look in...

now picture this... the prices are 750mill/k that means big guys will need approx 2 days to buy 1 mill UU (8bill/turn)

yes it makes it expensive for the smaller people to buy (thats me included) but those tiny people still selling UU will see for selling 2 mill UU 1.5trillion naq...

now I dont know about you but when I first started selling UU on the black market the prices were 330-350mill/k and with that I worked on my UP and grew... and grew... and sold more and worked on my UP... I had to sell a lot more for the gain and my growth...

buying at a higher price technically means more naq to the "sellers" but also will mean more naq spent on UP and again increase the amount of UU on the market... which means when less and less people start being able to buy UU the prices will drop back down... as they have done previously... a temporary price spike to meet demand is needed for the long running stabilty of the market.

which is why the price went up to 700mill/k previously - after the big wars and people started buying/rebuilding due to a much larger demand...

The prices then dropped down to 600mill/k after the large demand subsided and have been sat around that figure for 4-5months

The market UU price is around 600mill/k which is fine but right now the prices should rise to cover the much larger demand and in the long run help stabilise the SGW Market...

Please post comments & opinions hopefully this will get back onto a debate/thread about the market and so on

TheRook
Warlords of Briton

p.s. I hope thats not all gibberish :)

Re: Don't buy UU's when price is over 700b/1m

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:57 am
by Informer
you sound like my economics teacher, lol

Re: Don't buy UU's when price is over 700b/1m

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:04 am
by TheRook
well its just something that has happened before and the prices settled back down after the large increase in purchasing stopped and the sellers could catch up... but at the lower (standard) price it will take twice as long for the natural balance to return...

TheRook

Re: Don't buy UU's when price is over 700b/1m

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:02 pm
by Legendary Apophis
RATES ARE GOOD @ 590-625MIL/K and should remain as they are!!

Re: Don't buy UU's when price is over 700b/1m

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:07 pm
by Informer
for you maybe, but not the little people.

we need as much naq as possible to increase our up to a decent level.
especially since every good target starts crying *my co this my co that* or i have powerful freinds, la de da de da.

point is getting harder to hit for naq for smaller people, so need more naq selling uu. so 650 - 700 mil per k is more like it !!!!!

Re: Don't buy UU's when price is over 700b/1m

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:23 am
by TheRook
Apophis The Great wrote:RATES ARE GOOD @ 590-625MIL/K and should remain as they are!!


uh good counter argument...

Those rates are good for those buying... bad for those selling and for the market in general as the demand vastly outweighs supply and at your lovely low rates you will hardly get a chance to buy them

Re: Don't buy UU's when price is over 700b/1m

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:07 am
by Mordack
Omoc wrote:I was never a bully... swat disbanded becouse of bullies that were in it... SWAT had alot of good people in it, but as you said few bullies as well and that's why it didn't last...


That's funny. I thought SWAT disbanded because of an update which no longer allowed them to (ab)use purgatory.

Re: Don't buy UU's when price is over 700b/1m

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:58 am
by TheRook
Buying 2mill UU 640mill/k (Online/Accepting Now)
by TheRook on Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:20 am 1 Replies 3 Views Last post by TheRook
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:55 am
Buying UU 630M per K
by iapetus on Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:59 am 1 Replies 1 Views Last post by iapetus
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:48 am
Buying UU 630M per K
1, 2, 3by grimgor on Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:55 pm 30 Replies 154 Views Last post by grimgor
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:32 am
Buying uu 650mil/k
1, 2by Timmy on Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:18 am 19 Replies 87 Views Last post by Timmy
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:10 am
buying UU, at 630m:K
by Stormbringer on Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:09 am 0 Replies 1 Views Last post by Stormbringer
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:09 am
Buying UU 600mils/per 1k
1, 2by SVaRuN on Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:48 am 17 Replies 341 Views Last post by SVaRuN
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:59 am
Buying UU 650mil/1k
by Netsuai on Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:01 pm 12 Replies 100 Views Last post by SVaRuN
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:59 am
Buying UU, 630mil/k
by [EK]lilith on Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:07 am 14 Replies 69 Views Last post by [EK]lilith
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:33 am
Buying UU @ 650M per K
by Zhar on Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:30 am 1 Replies 10 Views Last post by Zhar
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:37 am
Buying 300k UU at 650m/k
by Xanthors on Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:19 am 0 Replies 3 Views Last post by Xanthors
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:19 am
buying 1.5mil UU at 650mil/k
by alien22 on Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:16 am 0 Replies 4 Views Last post by alien22
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:16 am
closed
by proph on Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:57 am 2 Replies 9 Views Last post by alien22
on Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:09 am
Buying 1 million uu for 700billion naq
by Sun God Ra on Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:26 am 1 Replies 13 Views Last post by Trife


another update... and look at all those top threads where people are having to advertise they are selling UU...

oh wait they aren't because the price is so low the same people can constantly buy UU and there aren't enough UU sellers to go round...