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Gods in Stargate.

Post by Legendary Apophis » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:44 pm

In Stargate SG-1, SG1 says Goa'ulds aren't gods despite their claims, they also say ascended beings, despite all their powers, aren't gods either.
So, in your opinion, what is according to them/their view of the matter, a god?
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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Jim » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:00 pm

A God is what you believe it to be. It exists as a God because it exists as such in your mind. But because it exists only in your mind and not outside of it, it cannot possibly be a God for its powers are yours and it stems from you.
If your Gods powers come from you, does that not make you God?
We are all masters of our own reality. What is real and what is not? What is God and what is not? What are you and what are you not?
Existence is imagination. As are Gods


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I would say to them God is the creator of the universe
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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Legendary Apophis » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:11 pm

Man Called Jim wrote:A God is what you believe it to be. It exists as a God because it exists as such in your mind. But because it exists only in your mind and not outside of it, it cannot possibly be a God for its powers are yours and it stems from you.
If your Gods powers come from you, does that not make you God?
We are all masters of our own reality. What is real and what is not? What is God and what is not? What are you and what are you not?
Existence is imagination. As are Gods


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I would say to them God is the creator of the universe

Don't forget that early believers in God saw a way or another a show of its existence. It's not some "mind fantasy" that caused them to believe in it.

Obviously @ italic part, but I meant what makes a god a god and what doesn't. (wouldn't God be the "ultimate ascended being" for all they can know?)
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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Zeratul » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:26 am

we would say it is not really definable...

the power and presence such a being would have, is not something those on a plane as low as the mortal plane would ever comprehend...

to some degree, a goa'uld could be a god for some people, at least with power comparison... to a stone age society, someone capable of intergalactic travel, would be with a power comparison divine... but when compared to an ascended being, that one is almost powerless...

so we would say that a god either is or isnt. mortal languages cannot express the concept properly...
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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by martin the great » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:53 am

ss, omnipotence is crap and no being has it or ever will have it
as z said, gods are beings who have powers and abilities that we cant comprehend and therefor as our knowlege of the universe increases the powers of our so called gods will
why do you think gods on earth have more power now than they used to?
ancient cultures could have upwards of a dozen gods and neither could do everything at once
compare that to the newer deities who either have all the power or share it between a 1-3 beings
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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Juliette » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:22 am

Who needs Gods anyway?
I remember what it was like the first time..
Wait, we're not talking about that.

..



Riiight, so anyway.
Who needs Gods. All they do is hoard power, and just when you think you're bonding, they go and stab you in the back by creating some inferior race and giving them all the leniency in the world. What the **Filtered** is up with that?



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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Legendary Apophis » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:30 am

Juliette wrote:Who needs Gods anyway?
I remember what it was like the first time..
Wait, we're not talking about that.

..



Riiight, so anyway.
Who needs Gods. All they do is hoard power, and just when you think you're bonding, they go and stab you in the back by creating some inferior race and giving them all the leniency in the world. What the **Filtered** is up with that?



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I am slighty confused about second part of your post (are you talking as Universe and refering to humans or..?)?
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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Juliette » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:46 am

Legendary Apophis wrote:
Juliette wrote:Who needs Gods anyway?
I remember what it was like the first time..
Wait, we're not talking about that.

..



Riiight, so anyway.
Who needs Gods. All they do is hoard power, and just when you think you're bonding, they go and stab you in the back by creating some inferior race and giving them all the leniency in the world. What the **Filtered** is up with that?



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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Legendary Apophis » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:50 am

Juliette wrote:
Legendary Apophis wrote:
Juliette wrote:Who needs Gods anyway?
I remember what it was like the first time..
Wait, we're not talking about that.

..



Riiight, so anyway.
Who needs Gods. All they do is hoard power, and just when you think you're bonding, they go and stab you in the back by creating some inferior race and giving them all the leniency in the world. What the **Filtered** is up with that?



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I am slighty confused about second part of your post (are you talking as Universe and refering to humans or..?)?
I think your rep just dropped all the way down through to the Pacific. -10^infinitas rep.

Fine, I will remain quiet in future, when I don't understand something, and take the misunderstanding (or what appears as one to me) as the r|ght thing regardless whether it's correct or not. :-D
Because the mixings with reality and stargate (and starwars shall I say?) view already did their ways in this thread. :-k
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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Juliette » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:53 am

Legendary Apophis wrote:
Juliette wrote:
Legendary Apophis wrote:
Juliette wrote:Who needs Gods anyway?
I remember what it was like the first time..
Wait, we're not talking about that.

..



Riiight, so anyway.
Who needs Gods. All they do is hoard power, and just when you think you're bonding, they go and stab you in the back by creating some inferior race and giving them all the leniency in the world. What the **Filtered** is up with that?



+10 rep for recognition.
I am slighty confused about second part of your post (are you talking as Universe and refering to humans or..?)?
I think your rep just dropped all the way down through to the Pacific. -10^infinitas rep.

Fine, I will remain quiet in future, when I don't understand something, and take the misunderstanding (or what appears as one to me) as the r|ght thing regardless whether it's correct or not. :-D
Because the mixings with reality and stargate view already did their ways in this thread. :-k
Well now, isn't that awkward.
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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Legendary Apophis » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:55 am

Who knows.
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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Juliette » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:57 am

Legendary Apophis wrote:Who knows.
Stop spamming, you do that kind of stuff in the Temple.
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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Legendary Apophis » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:00 am

Juliette wrote:
Legendary Apophis wrote:Who knows.
Stop spamming, you do that kind of stuff in the Temple.

That was an answer to your post. Quote pyramids aren't really good for forum display especially in such thread..

Anyway, I request it to be locked since uhm...well...it has to. :neutral:
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Re: Gods in Stargate.

Post by Juliette » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:03 am

So you're agreed, that a thread like this should never have started in the first place? Commendable.

Since it was a question, and we've answered it..
QA;TC
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