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Haz - Feedback

Post by Haz » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:23 pm

Post any and all feedback about my modding here.

Please don't spam and please do not flame. Constructive criticism is allowed and I will take any serious feedback into account on future actions.

Post away :)

EDIT: When posting criticisms, please post either quotes or links to posts that you are referencing. I can't learn from my mistakes if I don't know what the mistakes were ;) :P
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CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
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Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind ;)
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Zeratul wrote:
Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".

that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...

Forced labor on the other hand........ :sge
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo

SuperSaiyan says (2:05 PM):
*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by Ĕɱƿŷ » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:07 pm

Bad mod, always butts into that which does not concern him no matter how trivial. Takes warnings too far. Thinks he is always right. HOWEVER, does have the capacity to fix these problems.
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by Haz » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:13 pm

Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:Bad mod, always butts into that which does not concern him no matter how trivial. Takes warnings too far. Thinks he is always right. HOWEVER, does have the capacity to fix these problems.


I will note that I do not always think I am right (oh the irony of me saying this), in fact I know I've made a few mistakes as a mod, and have learnt from them.

However, I would like to request evidence where the above has been the case.
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CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
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Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind ;)
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Zeratul wrote:
Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".

that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...

Forced labor on the other hand........ :sge
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo

SuperSaiyan says (2:05 PM):
*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by Ĕɱƿŷ » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:15 pm

During my issue with my warning you began to post as though you knew the entire story. The story was very complicated as many mods were involved. Of all the mods involved you were not one but you seemed to want to interfere for some reason. Not only this but every topic that a mod posts 'keep it on topic' is you posting it. You take your modding responsibilities too far. You need to be more relaxed and not verbal warn over anything and everything.
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by Haz » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:24 pm

Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:During my issue with my warning you began to post as though you knew the entire story. The story was very complicated as many mods were involved. Of all the mods involved you were not one but you seemed to want to interfere for some reason. Not only this but every topic that a mod posts 'keep it on topic' is you posting it. You take your modding responsibilities too far. You need to be more relaxed and not verbal warn over anything and everything.


I became involved because I was the user who reported the post. I got the notification from the report saying the post had been dealt with, so I checked it again. I saw it had been edited by a mod and then edited again by you, so I re-reported. I felt this was a valid reason to make a contribution to the ombudsman post.

Some of the time I see spam, I don't even post a warning in topic. I move it to the public dump and give people a chance to respond to it there. Also, the absence of the spam in the original topic would hopefully bring the thread "back on topic". If not, I usually then post the "back on topic".

I also feel that when I do choose to give a verbal warning, that it only be a verbal. It notifies the user of any "wrongdoing" without any serious repercussions on their forum account.
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CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
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Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind ;)
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Zeratul wrote:
Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".

that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...

Forced labor on the other hand........ :sge
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo

SuperSaiyan says (2:05 PM):
*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by harchester » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:49 pm

after my dealings with this mod, i dont like him/her

sorry

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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by Haz » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:57 pm

harchester wrote:after my dealings with this mod, i dont like him/her

sorry

H


Anything more specific? What about me don't you like?

And for future reference, him. :P
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CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
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Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind ;)
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Zeratul wrote:
Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".

that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...

Forced labor on the other hand........ :sge
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo

SuperSaiyan says (2:05 PM):
*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by jedi~tank » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:15 pm

Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:Bad mod, always butts into that which does not concern him no matter how trivial. Takes warnings too far. Thinks he is always right. HOWEVER, does have the capacity to fix these problems.

Is this a format whereas we can argue through attempts to justify actions or feedback?

anyways what "Ĕɱƿŷ" said..I think all mods have the capacity to improve themselves and thus participate in running this forum like a forum ought to be run, the question is will they make a willful CHOICE to do so.
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:38 pm

My general impression of Haz is that you can be long-winded at times,
but that goes for most of us, especially me. 8-[

I think that you are a decent mod.

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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by Z E R O » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:43 pm

From the perspective of another mod (perhaps a slightly more interesting feedback) I do find some of your decisions can be a little OTT, and your modding can be slightly overzealous. While this can be a good thing, too much of anything can be a bad thing.

Your understanding of the rules and implementation of them are to the tee, however. I just think you could benefit from giving a little bit more leeway.

But hell, what do I know :P

If you need examples of anything, I could cite them (it'd have to be in PM though)
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by deni » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:37 am

General and especially the GC is the most heated section on this forum.

As a General mod, one has 2 choices: take a kind of a back seat and avoid to mod controversial topics OR step up without being afraid of getting into the crossfire and actively mod topics that need modding.

Usually, the general mods who choose the first option, are considered "good" mods by the general public - after all, if you do not mod actively, there is a slim chance to make a mistake or or step on an user's wrong foot.

The ones who actually mod (like Haz), have the unthankful job of never ever being able to "please" everyone. The general public considers them "bad" mods as they have complaints filed against them etc.

They are the ones who keep the forum running though, remember that ;)
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by Ercury » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:10 am

A good point for you is , your discreet and correct.

A bad point is you always want to have the last straw , if you say it's black
than it's black even if it's white.
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by RoKeT » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:17 am

Haven't really dealt with you as a mod but your a nice guy and a good friend to me :smt050

although if everyone says your to strict maybe your to strict IDK lol
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by Haz » Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:39 pm

Ercury wrote:A bad point is you always want to have the last straw , if you say it's black
than it's black even if it's white.


Could I get an example of this please?

From some of the posts here, some people seem to think I can be a bit too strict... so I shall take this into account with future modding :)
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CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
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Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind ;)
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Zeratul wrote:
Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".

that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...

Forced labor on the other hand........ :sge
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo

SuperSaiyan says (2:05 PM):
*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Haz - Feedback

Post by Legendary Apophis » Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:46 pm

From my point of view, you explain your modding when it's asked why, also you seem to be patient with the explanations of your modding even when the topic gets a bit hot, I don't recall to have seen you get angry neither on the threads you modded nor on the forum specific issues subsections' threads (which can happen sometimes to some mods, not criticizing those, just to make the point Haz seem to not fall into the trap of "provocation" I sometimes suspect to see by reading some posts, "provocation" to get the mod angry I mean).
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