Re: Empy - Feedback
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:23 am
Empy seems like he's supposed to be the guy in charge, or at least he's the only green I've noticed in the last couple of days. Not sayign the others arent there, just ain't been around. Anyways, Empy is the big dog, and the mods seem intent on creating their own personal threads to get flamed, so I'll post what I think here, although it directly violates one of the points I am about to make.
But I think with my past experience, both as a terrible troll and a forum admin, coupled with my very recent return, that I have a more objective view then tank or many others. This is coming from how I remember the forums compared to how they are now.
Think of a moderator position as management in a store... u might understand my points better.
1) Empy in particular: I was banned my first day back. Reasonable? Yes. I spammed hard. It was fun. Good Job. BUT... i should not have logged in to a board warning after being issued one before the ban, stopped spamming, got banned anyways.. then another warning.
2 warnings and a ban for one action from the same mod. Bad Management.
2) Get rid of these public feedback threads.
-They Encourage Flaming. The majority of people who have anything to say in such a thread will be people you have modded. This is the internet(anonymity) and people are going to be douchebags if they don't like you modding them. Bad
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-It is unprofessional to handle the squabbles that users have in a public setting. Obviously, the intent behind these feedback threads is more about what a mod needs to do in order for the playerbase to like them. You're the mod. Enforce the rules and stop caring if the people who break them don't wanna be your friend.
-Mods posting in other mods feedback saying "Good Mod, Fair Guy" is totally and utterly pointless.
If I walked into wal-mart and one of my co-workers says the new boss is a douchebag while one of my managers says he's a great manager, who you think I'm gonna listen to? It doesn't matter what is true, it makes no difference how many other mods say ur a good guy.
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-3) You do NOT EVER, NEVER NEVER ask a user to call out one of your team in public like you just did. Why not? Why in the world would you? If admin placed you in charge, then YOU need to make the judgement BEHIND THE SCENES! Telling tank to come up with certain examples of why such and such mod is bad at his job is both lazy and irresponsible, not to mention inflammatory. If he starts ragging on one of your mods in public, not only do you have to deal with him and the mod in question, but now you have all the other munchkins running around throwing their **Filtered** on top.
-It should not even be necessary. Why? Because as a lead mod, YOU should be doing regular reviews of your team. Evaluate people yourself.
4) I've already noticed mods spamming WHILE warning users to stop spamming. I absolutely will not name names. You made a feedback thread, here's your feedback. If you are in charge, and your team is performing poorly, it is YOUR FAULT. It's called accountability. We all have it, some more than others. The greens have the most. Currently, I'm a simple user. I'll run around all day dropping penis' into posts and if I get banned, well I'm accountable for my actions. The mods directly above me are accountable for their actions AND my actions. You are accountable for your mods. Therefore, from now on, anything that is amiss in the world is your problem to deal with. YOU MAKE SURE it gets handled.
5) ARGUING WITH USERS...... really? Is this even necessary to discuss... you shouldn't do it. It undermines your authority and causes your users to lose respect for you. Respect is the key. Who gives a flying **Filtered** if they like you so long as they respect you (good life lesson too)
6) Allowing 1 mod to take a shot at another mod of the same or higher level should never happen but ive seen it twice off the top of my head.
7) I've been here what? 3 days... was banned for one of them... and I have this much already. I guess I could add to this list as I see things come. And please don't think that just because you banned me for a day that I'm out to get you. I couldn't care less, I woulda banned me to. And I'm not saying that the forum needs to go back to the uber strict bs like it used to be, but damn, pull the reign in on your mod team... thurr out thurr having hot orgy sex all over your dignity.
I really really did not want to put this out here for everyone to see because I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and I'm sure you are trying, but damn you just made it so easy. Were you trained to be a forum moderator or was it just that you were the most active when it came time to promote someone?
But I think with my past experience, both as a terrible troll and a forum admin, coupled with my very recent return, that I have a more objective view then tank or many others. This is coming from how I remember the forums compared to how they are now.
Think of a moderator position as management in a store... u might understand my points better.
1) Empy in particular: I was banned my first day back. Reasonable? Yes. I spammed hard. It was fun. Good Job. BUT... i should not have logged in to a board warning after being issued one before the ban, stopped spamming, got banned anyways.. then another warning.
2 warnings and a ban for one action from the same mod. Bad Management.
2) Get rid of these public feedback threads.
-They Encourage Flaming. The majority of people who have anything to say in such a thread will be people you have modded. This is the internet(anonymity) and people are going to be douchebags if they don't like you modding them. Bad
-
-It is unprofessional to handle the squabbles that users have in a public setting. Obviously, the intent behind these feedback threads is more about what a mod needs to do in order for the playerbase to like them. You're the mod. Enforce the rules and stop caring if the people who break them don't wanna be your friend.
-Mods posting in other mods feedback saying "Good Mod, Fair Guy" is totally and utterly pointless.
If I walked into wal-mart and one of my co-workers says the new boss is a douchebag while one of my managers says he's a great manager, who you think I'm gonna listen to? It doesn't matter what is true, it makes no difference how many other mods say ur a good guy.
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-3) You do NOT EVER, NEVER NEVER ask a user to call out one of your team in public like you just did. Why not? Why in the world would you? If admin placed you in charge, then YOU need to make the judgement BEHIND THE SCENES! Telling tank to come up with certain examples of why such and such mod is bad at his job is both lazy and irresponsible, not to mention inflammatory. If he starts ragging on one of your mods in public, not only do you have to deal with him and the mod in question, but now you have all the other munchkins running around throwing their **Filtered** on top.
-It should not even be necessary. Why? Because as a lead mod, YOU should be doing regular reviews of your team. Evaluate people yourself.
4) I've already noticed mods spamming WHILE warning users to stop spamming. I absolutely will not name names. You made a feedback thread, here's your feedback. If you are in charge, and your team is performing poorly, it is YOUR FAULT. It's called accountability. We all have it, some more than others. The greens have the most. Currently, I'm a simple user. I'll run around all day dropping penis' into posts and if I get banned, well I'm accountable for my actions. The mods directly above me are accountable for their actions AND my actions. You are accountable for your mods. Therefore, from now on, anything that is amiss in the world is your problem to deal with. YOU MAKE SURE it gets handled.
5) ARGUING WITH USERS...... really? Is this even necessary to discuss... you shouldn't do it. It undermines your authority and causes your users to lose respect for you. Respect is the key. Who gives a flying **Filtered** if they like you so long as they respect you (good life lesson too)
6) Allowing 1 mod to take a shot at another mod of the same or higher level should never happen but ive seen it twice off the top of my head.
7) I've been here what? 3 days... was banned for one of them... and I have this much already. I guess I could add to this list as I see things come. And please don't think that just because you banned me for a day that I'm out to get you. I couldn't care less, I woulda banned me to. And I'm not saying that the forum needs to go back to the uber strict bs like it used to be, but damn, pull the reign in on your mod team... thurr out thurr having hot orgy sex all over your dignity.
I really really did not want to put this out here for everyone to see because I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and I'm sure you are trying, but damn you just made it so easy. Were you trained to be a forum moderator or was it just that you were the most active when it came time to promote someone?