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Re: new forum mods/titles/roles

Report the mod if you have consistent problems geisha.
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Robin absolutely fantastic....

Very good mate, very very good :-D



Anyway regarding the issue on hand.

Moderators should be given "mod accounts"

4 Forum Admins (ideally who would cover 6 hours of a timezone)
6 Global Mods (4 hour shifts timezone pending)
12 Mods (2 mods for each section)

Forum would hold his Forum name (even tho he should change it to Admin)

The other Admins should be

Asian/Aussie Admin
Middle East Admin
Europe Admin
The America's Admin

The Global Mods

Aussie GM
Asian GM
Central Europe GM
West Europe GM
East Americas GM
West Americas GM

The normal Mods should then cover sections of the forums.

Mods names should be

Moderator #001
Moderator #002
Moderator #003
Moderator #004
Moderator #005
Moderator #006
Moderator #007
Moderator #008
Moderator #009
Moderator #010
Moderator #011
Moderator #012

The terms for normal mods should be 6 weeks.

For Global Mods 12 weeks

For Admins 24 weeks.

Each position should be vacated in that time period, each position can not be refilled by the same applicant who previosly held the role. So if you where a mod you can't apply to be the same mod in the same position/section. You can mod in a different section of the forum.

Mods/Admins will keep their identity a secret and will not be biased towards anyone.

Mods will not tell other mods they are mods.

It should be set up so their IP can not be shown either. This is to protect the identity of another moderator or admin..

Passwords for the mod accounts should be changed by a forum admin when a new round of mods should be elected.

Applications to be in the mod team should ONLY be made to Forum (Admin Jason)

While we are on the subject (and I will post this somewhere else)

The current Rules need to be scrapped and re-written. Then reposted in a CLEAR and consise meaning of what they mean.

Thats how I think the forums should continue.


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Re: new forum mods/titles/roles

a couple of small issues with your thoughts on the issue...

J.S. wrote:12 Mods (2 mods for each section)

The normal Mods should then cover sections of the forums.

Mods names should be

Moderator #001
Moderator #002
Moderator #003
Moderator #004
Moderator #005
Moderator #006
Moderator #007
Moderator #008
Moderator #009
Moderator #010
Moderator #011
Moderator #012


some sections hardly require modding, and some, like general and misc, need far more than 2 mods...

J.S. wrote:Applications to be in the mod team should ONLY be made to Forum (Admin Jason)


the one making appointments is Agapooka, as he is the head admin for the forum... Forum has said agapooka is the one to make appointments...

J.S. wrote:4 Forum Admins (ideally who would cover 6 hours of a timezone)
6 Global Mods (4 hour shifts timezone pending)
12 Mods (2 mods for each section)


all mods need some overlapping, also, there are very few that can cover 4 hours, or for that matter 6 hours, in a row...
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Zeratul wrote:a couple of small issues with your thoughts on the issue...

J.S. wrote:12 Mods (2 mods for each section)

The normal Mods should then cover sections of the forums.

Mods names should be

Moderator #001
Moderator #002
Moderator #003
Moderator #004
Moderator #005
Moderator #006
Moderator #007
Moderator #008
Moderator #009
Moderator #010
Moderator #011
Moderator #012


some sections hardly require modding, and some, like general and misc, need far more than 2 mods...

J.S. wrote:Applications to be in the mod team should ONLY be made to Forum (Admin Jason)


the one making appointments is Agapooka, as he is the head admin for the forum... Forum has said agapooka is the one to make appointments...

J.S. wrote:4 Forum Admins (ideally who would cover 6 hours of a timezone)
6 Global Mods (4 hour shifts timezone pending)
12 Mods (2 mods for each section)


all mods need some overlapping, also, there are very few that can cover 4 hours, or for that matter 6 hours, in a row...



Ahh young warrior you misunderstand me.. Even pookie is corruptable..

And lets face it since pookie took over the forum has gone downhill.. I'm not being an ass I'm just stating the truth.. Look at all the crap and poo that has been flung all over the place since he took over..

He is a nice guy n all but like yeah..

Also my suggestion is a Model not a definate you know an EXAMPLE, I admin another forum, everyone is nice to eachother there :P Anyone who breaks the basic rules not all the useless pointless ones we seem to have on this forum gets 3 warnings.

Links to porn or other money making material gets banned..

All a MOD has to do is check for swearing, links to porn, modifying posts where people insult you etc..

Unnessecary warnings/bannings is all I see here... If you REALLY want to know the root problem with this forum lately its all the pointless rules, excessive power-trips and damned titles everywhere..



Recent causes of Division on the forums

RESPECT GROUP - LEADING BY EXAMPLE - I am so happy that was taken away.. Talk about racial segeration. You know its like yeah these guys are the best of the best and screw the rest of ye.. In fact it makes me sick to even think about it..

banning people for posting for banned people <<<<< Biggest pile of vommit I have seen in a very long time.. I mean come on people, uless they post images of porn, links to porn, making money schemes, or something that is just not in good taste.. Don't bloody ban them..


Anyway i'm after mini ranting, my doctor said thats bad so im not gonna do it anymore.

Seriously tho, there are only 2 people I would feel that have total un-bias towards the forums..

Admin Jason
Wolf359

They are the only 2 people I would feel would be unbiased.. Hate me or love me but I'm speaking my mind!!
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Point and case..

Just been told that a member of the forum was banned for calling a male MOD a woman... :?


Also even if he was called that 1000000000000000000000000000000 times that still does not justify a ban
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Jack wrote:
J.S. wrote:RESPECT GROUP - LEADING BY EXAMPLE - I am so happy that was taken away.. Talk about racial segeration. You know its like yeah these guys are the best of the best and screw the rest of ye.. In fact it makes me sick to even think about it..

Dude, the Respect Group is open to EVERYONE, all you had to do to join was look up the group and click the join button..........


I'm not a member of said group but I see the good in it


Now as for the rules, I agree with J.S. some of em are just rediculous and they are way to touchy feely and P.C. oriented for my taste, though I still follow the rules none-the-less I'd prefer if they weren't so "sensitive"


Ok didn't know it was an open group nonetheless, still pure ****** what makes the "respect" group different from evryone else???? We all do the same thing at the end of the day and when we are on the toilet.. So what bloody difference does it make??

AAAAAANNNNNNDDDDDDD on a side note..

Scrap all the useless pointless fricking rules, rewrite them in STONE!!! YES STONE!!! Take a pic and post it up so that everyone knows what the rules mean. Mods, Admins members. No deviations. The rules should be developed by the community as a whole, not just by one particular section of people..

The way the rules keep going no one will want to mod the forums cos every action will get them massed...
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JS,

Please read these threads before you comment to my post:
http://www.herebegames.com/StarGateWars ... 01&t=81332
http://www.herebegames.com/StarGateWars ... 01&t=83523
(this second link was a continuation of a previously removed topic).

J.S. wrote:Recent causes of Division on the forums

RESPECT GROUP - LEADING BY EXAMPLE - I am so happy that was taken away.. Talk about racial segeration. You know its like yeah these guys are the best of the best and screw the rest of ye.. In fact it makes me sick to even think about it..

I don't understand what you mean by racial segregation. What races or people were being disadvantaged by the creation of the Respect Group?

J.S. wrote:Ok didn't know it was an open group nonetheless, still pure ****** what makes the "respect" group different from evryone else???? We all do the same thing at the end of the day and when we are on the toilet.. So what bloody difference does it make??

Who has ever said the Respect Group is different from everyone else? Indeed, what difference does it make to be a part of the group for the individual?

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Jack wrote:The idea for the color (which I'm sure is what you're talking about) was not to set people apart but to try and entice others to join the Respect group and become more respectful as a poster

Basically a bribe to be more respectful to others

Though yes it was a bad idea the motivation was pure

Really? The main idea of the name colour was to intice more people to join? Who has said that? When have I said that? When has another leader said that?
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Spacey wrote:I don't understand what you mean by racial segregation. What races or people were being disadvantaged by the creation of the Respect Group?


I believe he meant that it created a division between different groups of members on the forums, those who were not in the respect group, and those who were. People resented those who considered themselves superior by joining the Respect group and thus hated it. Which is, as far as I'm aware, mildly similar to the racial segregation of old, although it doesn't actually involve any different races as such.

Spacey wrote:Who has ever said the Respect Group is different from everyone else? Indeed, what difference does it make to be a part of the group for the individual?


The simple fact that the group had coloured names and was called the "respect group" is enough to make it different/seemingly superior.

As for my contribution to this thread. Some of the rules are ridiculously roundabout and unnecessary, I feel they need a rewrite.
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J.S., Jack, and Wirewraith,

Thanks for your posts and opinions. Looking back at empirical threads it is clear that many people had the same misconceptions to which I spent significant time addressing. I have spent over 1 month talking about this when it first happened; more importantly responding to claims of group superiority, function and purpose of the name colour, segregation, etc.

Here are two threads that should address the statments that were made:
http://www.herebegames.com/StarGateWars ... 01&t=81332
http://www.herebegames.com/StarGateWars ... 01&t=83523

More threads did exist at one point and some removed. The events surrounding and leading up to those thread removal are for mods eyes only (as the term existed before 'leaks' and individuals moving information out of the mod section).

When you have read the existing threads, and if there are further questions please direct them to me or another Respect Group leader... but please don't rehash that same statements without reading the discussion that already exits on the subject.

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RobinInDaHood wrote:
Forum wrote:ID #1
go right ahead ... if you can ;)


Ok, you asked for it. Prepare for pwnage...


GameLog wrote:As with all battles, this one has been recorded for the official history of your realm. You, of course, are the first to know the results as they are reported directly to you first. This is the official report of the battle:


The fleets of RobinInDaHood invaded the planet Delvia6 in the realm of jtest!

RobinInDaHood sent:
43,000 Nano-AI Cruiser Squadran

jtest's planet Delvia6 resisted the aggressors with:
1,327,000 planet ground based defence facilities.


In a fury, the two opposing forces clash!


Silence. Nothing. I quickly review my sub-space scanners, weapon monitors, and ship's logs. We fired all volleys, every pilot in every ship had been briefed, and even had a map to the planet with a big red X marking the location. What had happened?

"We're being hailed, Captain", announced #3. (he is actually second in command but I call him #3 because it annoys him and he's overly sensitive).

"On speaker, #3!", I replied.

"Greeting and salutations, RobinInDaHood. This is the Nox operator speaking. We regret to inform you that the attack you just launched has been suspended due to an application on file for a Personal Protection Treaty.", came the reply.

"What? I checked with Nox Central Command before I bothered with preparations to leave the home world. You think I'd go to the hassle of dragging 43,000 pilots out of bed and drawing all those maps if I wasn't sure this would be allowed? When does the PPT end?", I fumed.

"As you know, we cannot revel the termination time of our customer's contract due to confidentiality issues. However, we are permitted to tell you that this particular customer has had a contract in effect since the early part of Earth year 2005.", said the Nox Operator.

"That's over 2 years! According to the terms and conditions section of my last PPT (sounds of shuffling papers heard), the term is supposed to last 2 days, not 2 years! This PPT should have ended a long time ago!", I raged at the Nox operator.

"Yes sir, that normally is our policy. However, this particular customer seems to have an addendum to their policy which permits longer duration contracts. I'm afraid there is nothing more I can do to help you.", replied the Nox.

"How about now?", I smiled faintly. "Activate transporter", I whispered to #3.

"Hello Sir. While I can certainly appreciate the rather enormous pile of naq I see has suddenly appeared on our transporter platform, I must inform you that we are not permitted to accept 'donations' and I cannot change the duration of our customer's PPT.", came the surprised response.

"So you're telling me that you cannot allow even a single attack when I'm willing to contribute so much to your children's happy Christmas fund?", came my exasperated tone.

"No Sir, I'm afraid I cannot help you at this time.", said Nox.

"Well fine! I guess I'll call everyone back and try to forget about all the time I spent on those maps. The Nox is really ruining the galaxy for everyone, you know. I realize that's not your problem but you should pass along to your supervisor that I'm really annoyed. Will you transport back the naq I sent over, please?", I said coldly.

"I'm sorry Sir, but there seems to be a problem with our transporters at this time."

:smt013

So Jason, it seems you've won this round. I don't know how or what you did to convice the Nox to protect you so long but they won't budge. I'll be watching you closely, however. Be afraid, be very afraid.

LMAO, absolutelly hillarious (sp?). Thanks for tonight laugher :-D



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Bleh I have no real gripe about the respect group. I was merely explaining someones else argument, and acting as devils advocate. However I will say that were I against the respect group superiority as a whole, you would've just answered the majority of my questions in your previous post.

Might I add that there isn't really much for anyone else to comment on regarding the respect group now, I feel all the points have been made and any further discussion on it will just be recycled retorts. But that's just my opinion.
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Hi Spacey,

As wirewraith suggested, yes that is what I meant. For those who don't know a little bit about Irish history (or anywhere where the british ruled) the british/white man deemed themselves more "classy" and "respectful" then the people they conquered.

The "savages" of the America's, the stupid drunk Irish, the African Americans etc... For me I feel extremely strong about such crap.. (sorry) But when you create a "group" of individuals no matter what the intention is and then segreate them from the rest of the forum as being the ones you should follow their example that quite frankly pisses me off. Everyone is an individual and the more you try and impose on them the more likely you will end up with what has happened on these forums.

You can not have a group of people going around saying they are automatically better then the rest of us. And to be 100% honest I wanted to mass everyone in that group for being so stuck up their own arses to see what they where actually doing to the "common/everyday folk", but instead I chose to just go inactive. (this was for everyone who was wondering if I was alive), and then I say some of my good friends who I do have respect for not becuase they are in this group but becuase they have the ability to see both sides of the story and create their own opinion. Taxo for one, he is a man who has my total respect. And he doesn't need to be in some "special" group to prove that.

That is why I am calling for all the current rules to be scrapped, and rewritten by the community. The current system does NOT work. If it did there wouldn't be any problems. Anyone and everyone can see that.

The rules need to be scrapped and agreed to by everyone. A new system HAS to be brought into play. IF everyone agrees to the new rules end of problems. The community can still be fun, and a welcoming place and not a place that you get a headache and everyone is at everyone's throats, wanting to actually find you to hurt you..

And admin needs to mix up main a bit for older players say everyone under ID 75000 will have "special" things happen to their accounts.. Like UU loss, plague, black holes etc... Just to spice it up..

Anyway yeah, you want more hate on the forums have a group of people who think they have the light shine out of the place they go to the toilet. No one and I mean NO ONE is better then anyone else here. And no one can tell me how I should post, how i should feel about something. I am an individual and if I want to post e.g. I hate cheese, I will post I hate cheese.. If someone doesn't like what I say, to war with them... You can either handle a little bit of name calling or you can't. If you can't you need to climb back into bed with your mommy..

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The Respect group was not made to say 'I'm better then you', at the end of the day. It was made so people who wanted to have a better community could share their opinions with out being attacked, and build that community together through example. However I can not speak for every member, but I know the original idea was never to 'up the next person'.
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I don't remember how I ended up in the respect group (it was awhile back.... *coughs*) but I definitely don't use it to be part of the group or whatnot. Until I became a mod, I didn't even realize it has it's own forum section!

It's more... a promise to myself. All those in the respect group have made a promise to themselves and the community (an UNwritten one) that they will act and post respectfully to all users.... that's really what it's all about. A group of people who are making a conscious effort to improve their own posting style to be more respectful to everyone else.

I would hope that users wouldn't find the concept of the group insulting... and it disturbs me that they do... makes me wonder if there is a better way to go about this... it is a good idea. The group is good, and I know Spacey puts alot of work into it... alot of work.

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The respect group to me is.. I DEMAND RESPECT!!!

That is why I dont like it
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