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Re: Improvements for Un-Ascended Accounts (Not new ones)

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:34 am
by Sarevok
Bump

Re: Improvements for Un-Ascended Accounts (Not new ones)

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:13 pm
by wasmguy
righto, had a bit of an idea to help the unascended. Use it, tweek it, discard it makes no real difference to me as I am already ascended. Anyway, it goes like this

Basically its just using what is already there. Your glory and reputation allow other races to teach you their technology path.

Asgard have the def tech line, hologram tech and the 25% def bonus.
Tauri have the att tech line, rapid evac tech and 25% att bonus.
Replicators have the cov tech line, Advanced Unit Regeneration SubRoutine tech, 25% cov bonus and cheaper cov levels
Goauld have the 25% inc bonus, Advanced Host Processing tech and free banking
Ascended have their stronger weaps and MS weaps/sheilds/fleets.

So it would work like this. When you get your first 1000 GnR, you trade for FSS. Then once you accumilate another 1k you can use it to assimilate another race's tech structure (listed above) into your own.

As far for the cost of doing this (you concentrate on learning so hard it causes disruptions to your realm) it would go mainly along the lines of ascension
1. techs are reset
2. weaps are lost
3. Supers are lost (and possibly spies as well)
4. UP is reset (or at least some of it is lost)
5. Cov levels are reset

So in the end you will have sort of mongrel race with the best of all the unascended with ascended weaps. It will cost as much GnR as getting to LG and have the same bonus accross the board (25%) without having to worry about playing another server. Not much of an idea but it might spark someone else's imagination for something better

Re: Improvements for Un-Ascended Accounts (Not new ones)

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:08 pm
by CABAL
wasmguy wrote:righto, had a bit of an idea to help the unascended. Use it, tweek it, discard it makes no real difference to me as I am already ascended. Anyway, it goes like this

Basically its just using what is already there. Your glory and reputation allow other races to teach you their technology path.

Asgard have the def tech line, hologram tech and the 25% def bonus.
Tauri have the att tech line, rapid evac tech and 25% att bonus.
Replicators have the cov tech line, Advanced Unit Regeneration SubRoutine tech, 25% cov bonus and cheaper cov levels
Goauld have the 25% inc bonus, Advanced Host Processing tech and free banking
Ascended have their stronger weaps and MS weaps/sheilds/fleets.

So it would work like this. When you get your first 1000 GnR, you trade for FSS. Then once you accumilate another 1k you can use it to assimilate another race's tech structure (listed above) into your own.

As far for the cost of doing this (you concentrate on learning so hard it causes disruptions to your realm) it would go mainly along the lines of ascension
1. techs are reset
2. weaps are lost
3. Supers are lost (and possibly spies as well)
4. UP is reset (or at least some of it is lost)
5. Cov levels are reset

So in the end you will have sort of mongrel race with the best of all the unascended with ascended weaps. It will cost as much GnR as getting to LG and have the same bonus accross the board (25%) without having to worry about playing another server. Not much of an idea but it might spark someone else's imagination for something better


Actually. Asgard have the strongest MS shields = highest MS power, Tau'ri have strongest MS volleys, and so forth. As in; if you were Asgard and ascended, your MS power would go DOWN.

Re: Improvements for Un-Ascended Accounts (Not new ones)

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:14 pm
by Sarevok
wasmguy wrote:righto, had a bit of an idea to help the unascended. Use it, tweek it, discard it makes no real difference to me as I am already ascended. Anyway, it goes like this

Basically its just using what is already there. Your glory and reputation allow other races to teach you their technology path.

Asgard have the def tech line, hologram tech and the 25% def bonus.
Tauri have the att tech line, rapid evac tech and 25% att bonus.
Replicators have the cov tech line, Advanced Unit Regeneration SubRoutine tech, 25% cov bonus and cheaper cov levels
Goauld have the 25% inc bonus, Advanced Host Processing tech and free banking
Ascended have their stronger weaps and MS weaps/sheilds/fleets.

So it would work like this. When you get your first 1000 GnR, you trade for FSS. Then once you accumilate another 1k you can use it to assimilate another race's tech structure (listed above) into your own.

As far for the cost of doing this (you concentrate on learning so hard it causes disruptions to your realm) it would go mainly along the lines of ascension
1. techs are reset
2. weaps are lost
3. Supers are lost (and possibly spies as well)
4. UP is reset (or at least some of it is lost)
5. Cov levels are reset

So in the end you will have sort of mongrel race with the best of all the unascended with ascended weaps. It will cost as much GnR as getting to LG and have the same bonus accross the board (25%) without having to worry about playing another server. Not much of an idea but it might spark someone else's imagination for something better

Does this mean that they also get all the techs? I'm not so sure this would work. As they would still be only 50% of the strength of the ascended accounts. But good idea none the less

Re: Improvements for Un-Ascended Accounts (Not new ones)

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:42 pm
by wasmguy
Sarevok wrote:
wasmguy wrote:[spoiler]righto, had a bit of an idea to help the unascended. Use it, tweek it, discard it makes no real difference to me as I am already ascended. Anyway, it goes like this

Basically its just using what is already there. Your glory and reputation allow other races to teach you their technology path.

Asgard have the def tech line, hologram tech and the 25% def bonus.
Tauri have the att tech line, rapid evac tech and 25% att bonus.
Replicators have the cov tech line, Advanced Unit Regeneration SubRoutine tech, 25% cov bonus and cheaper cov levels
Goauld have the 25% inc bonus, Advanced Host Processing tech and free banking
Ascended have their stronger weaps and MS weaps/sheilds/fleets.

So it would work like this. When you get your first 1000 GnR, you trade for FSS. Then once you accumilate another 1k you can use it to assimilate another race's tech structure (listed above) into your own.

As far for the cost of doing this (you concentrate on learning so hard it causes disruptions to your realm) it would go mainly along the lines of ascension
1. techs are reset
2. weaps are lost
3. Supers are lost (and possibly spies as well)
4. UP is reset (or at least some of it is lost)
5. Cov levels are reset

So in the end you will have sort of mongrel race with the best of all the unascended with ascended weaps. It will cost as much GnR as getting to LG and have the same bonus accross the board (25%) without having to worry about playing another server. Not much of an idea but it might spark someone else's imagination for something better[/spoiler]

Does this mean that they also get all the techs? I'm not so sure this would work. As they would still be only 50% of the strength of the ascended accounts. But good idea none the less


Not sure how you get your 50% value but they get at least on par with LG+1 accounts (if not better). They will have 25% bonus across the board, have a tech to get 50% bonus rather than the usual 30% (I think) for each stat, cheaper cov levels, cheaper MS techs, all the unique techs and the ascended weaps.

Re: Improvements for Un-Ascended Accounts (Not new ones)

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:30 pm
by Sarevok
Sorry, i meant that they'll have 50% of those whom are fully ascended. Does that clear it up?

Re: Improvements for Un-Ascended Accounts (Not new ones)

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:18 am
by Sarevok
bump, any other ideas from you guys?