NSA collecting too much data.

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NSA collecting too much data.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... :Position1

Let's be clear with what they're handing over to the NSA first:
"Under the terms of the blanket order, the numbers of both parties on a call are handed over, as is location data, call duration, unique identifiers, and the time and duration of all calls. The contents of the conversation itself are not covered."

Obviously it's taking a noticeable piece of your liberation pie Americans, but is it too invasive? Though that can't really be judged until you're given the reason (so let's just go with the most likely, terrorist hunting).
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Re: NSA collecting US phone call data

they prevented a serious attack on the us through this i read..
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~Dä Vinci~ wrote:they prevented a serious attack on the us through this i read..
Link? Proof?
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~Dä Vinci~ wrote:they prevented a serious attack on the us through this i read..
Link? Proof?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22793851

i probaly miss read it knowing me :-D
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It is rather easy to say you prevented something from happening.
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IRS are collecting data (and taking a political stance pro-Obama) from Tea Party members and other groups against so-called "Progress" in America.
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Legendary Apophis wrote:IRS are collecting data (and taking a political stance pro-Obama) from Tea Party members and other groups against so-called "Progress" in America.
Yes, but that is the news from a month ago..
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Legendary Apophis wrote:IRS are collecting data (and taking a political stance pro-Obama) from Tea Party members and other groups against so-called "Progress" in America.
Yes, but that is the news from a month ago..
I know, just saying that this government isn't as wonderful as people would have thought.

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Seriously, I would consent to this **Filtered**. If it stops some guy blowing up me or my family. Fine, collect my phone records. What you afraid of? Someone seeing your intimate photos you sent to your wife?

Get over it, screw democracy, screw freedom.

Get on the train and get off again.

That is all.
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Sol wrote:
~Dä Vinci~ wrote:they prevented a serious attack on the us through this i read..
Link? Proof?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22793851

i probaly miss read it knowing me :-D
All there ;), but as Juliette has said, it's easy to say you have prevented something. Especially since the only backing it has was it being "significant" and "within the past few years" mentioned by just a congressman.

Although I'm just interested to know why they need ALL records and not just a selected network of people, or even a state (to blur the curiosities of others).

@FM, see first post about what information is actually being given.
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nah im with FM on this,

if a serious terrorist attack happens people die, the goverment and security forces are blamedfornot doing their jobs,

you have to give abit to ensure your safety, people dont appreciate that,then they should expect attacks to rise and more people to die.

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Makes sense that Brits would see things differently. You live in a police state already.
For one to give up 'freedom' one would need to have freedom to begin with. ;)

I could not care less what Americans do with Americans. I do care about some backwards nation blatantly ignoring my nation's sovereignty and my privacy. That power belongs with another organisation, and any infringement thereupon is .. well .. annoying.
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Guild wrote:nah im with FM on this,

if a serious terrorist attack happens people die, the goverment and security forces are blamedfornot doing their jobs,

you have to give abit to ensure your safety, people dont appreciate that,then they should expect attacks to rise and more people to die.

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It didn't stop Boston. So what safety is it providing?
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Guild wrote:nah im with FM on this,

if a serious terrorist attack happens people die, the goverment and security forces are blamedfornot doing their jobs,

you have to give abit to ensure your safety, people dont appreciate that,then they should expect attacks to rise and more people to die.

freedom isnt free
It didn't stop Boston. So what safety is it providing?
more than you would know, or appreciate, as it is stopping them before events like boston happen

Juliette wrote: I could not care less what Americans do with Americans. I do care about some backwards nation blatantly ignoring my nation's sovereignty and my privacy. That power belongs with another organisation, and any infringement thereupon is .. well .. annoying.

pffffffft get out of here, you go to america you follow their rules, dont expect them to treat you with whatever your nations sovereignty provides you with in your own country, if you dont like it you know what to do ;)
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