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Re: 2016: ongoing

Well it seems she halved the amount of GnR you get on PPT
Also a little note:
Thanks to some who abused the hell out of the brokers/player market to move TONS of UU
You now lose any UU you can't reclaim from Brokers or players market, they die if no room
Also Ats are lost if you can't accept them by being over the limit, I bring this up as players buy form admin when THAT allows you to go over the limit
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Re: 2016: ongoing

Glory and Reputation earned on PPT now half of previous. (No modifier, straight 50% if on PPT, 100% off PPT.) You have the suboptimal choice between safely sitting on PPT, taking more time, or riskily sitting in the open, earning more rapidly.

Considering the suggestion made previously of increasing Glory earned while militarily active - outgoing attacks. Not going to provide a 'theft' mechanic, but this offers methods for interdiction attacks. If anyone has any thoughts on this, please speak up. :)

teesdale wrote:if your toying with this - would say the modifier should raise at a half rate while off PPT to what it drops while on PPT...

say youve just spent 2 days on PPT with it slowly dropping, could then spend 2hrs online(or even use alliance PPTs and just break the ppt on turn change then re apply another alliance PPT after turn change) to get back to full multiplyer then restart another PPT...
will stop the 10 days non stop at rank 1 thing if it takes atleast a full 24hrs off PPT to reset the multiplyer to full
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Re: 2016: ongoing

If you cant generate the same GnR when on PPT, and lose GnR when on nox. Then your completely at the mercy of other people, and hoping they aren't **Filtered**. Most ascending players have lower coverts etc and have to train higher amounts of spies to get the ranks they need, meaning "free ME" to some players.

You've just crippled any new players.


A bad update me thinks.

[22:37:27] Mental - Harch Snr DDE: Well isn't it great hwo she drags g n r down to a smaller scale so that those priors and messiahs just joined up will NEVER reach unknown let alone the new ones
[22:38:06] Mental - Harch Snr DDE: Forward thinking fail turn the game into just bullying asshatswars
^ couldnt have put it better.
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Re: 2016: ongoing

~Tziki~ wrote:I think im done with main.

If you cant generate the same GnR when on PPT, and lose GnR when on nox. Then your completely at the mercy of other people, and hoping they aren't **Filtered**. Most ascending players have lower coverts etc and have to train higher amounts of spies to get the ranks they need, meaning "free ME" to some players.

You've just crippled any new players.


A bad update.

[22:37:27] Mental - Harch Snr DDE: Well isn't it great hwo she drags g n r down to a smaller scale so that those priors and messiahs just joined up will NEVER reach unknown let alone the new ones
[22:38:06] Mental - Harch Snr DDE: Forward thinking fail turn the game into just bullying asshatswars
^ couldnt have put it better.
That's the biggest issue, can't get it on ppt, can't get it on nox. While I know this is a war game. the people who spend $$$$ will sit on top. All those new players won't get far.


So Support.. Is this a on/off ppt thing or does it take time to come back up?
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Re: 2016: ongoing

Wow that a little rough don't you think , it's just keep getting harder and harder to finish the ascensions

If it's 50% should I not be getting 2.5 per turn and not 2
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Thank you, these are perfectly valid comments.
Canceled 1/2 Glory on PPT.



Please keep providing feedback like this, and please.. not just when I add something unreasonable.
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Re: 2016: ongoing

Support wrote:Thank you, these are perfectly valid comments.
Canceled 1/2 Glory on PPT.



Please keep providing feedback like this, and please.. not just when I add something unreasonable.
zzzz, convenient update ](*,) can you please explain why this is a necessary update? struggling to find it's relevance, g&r gain has never been an issue. If anything, it's been useless in the sense for older players for a long time. Double strike is overpower and costs barly anything, nox can be used with 0 g&r.

5 gnr range, ppting 4 days a week = 12.5 weeks, just over three months to ascend.. you actually kidding me .. can't physically hold rank 1 without ppt with how easy it is to mass someone.
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Re: 2016: ongoing

Why is it necessary to reverse the update where you receive half Glory and Reputation if you are on PPT? Umm, because when we reduced the rates at which GnR was earned, we achieved the intended effect of creating competition for the top spots? Or look at the other posts made against it. Sensible things.


The idea of reducing glory earned on PPT (arguably 50% is far too extreme) is fueled by the notion that in all game play, you need to have the choice between "risk and speed", and "safety and time".
However, the implementation (for the single TC it effectively lasted) was too harsh, and counterproductive. Hence the reversal. Ascension is a long-term process, the core of game play.


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Support wrote:Thank you, these are perfectly valid comments.
Canceled 1/2 Glory on PPT.



Please keep providing feedback like this, and please.. not just when I add something unreasonable.
zzzz, convenient update ](*,) can you please explain why this is a necessary update?
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Re: 2016: ongoing

ow ok, so lets cut it in half that's an easy fix. How about thinking about an alternative to gaining g&r and not just sitting around. PPT an essential in a turn base game and you shouldn't be crippled by it. This update or potential update is counter productive and would be more damaging then beneficial.
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Re: 2016: ongoing

@Support:

Just wanting to say thank you for at least being active in development of gatewars. I know a lot of people hate change, and this is a pretty "set in its ways" community so it would be no easy task. Sure some things won't work, and some things may fall over, but at least the wheels are in motion!

I appreciate very much the time and effort in trying to help balance and bring some new life to the game :)
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overlord elz wrote:@Support:

Just wanting to say thank you for at least being active in development of gatewars. I know a lot of people hate change, and this is a pretty "set in its ways" community so it would be no easy task. Sure some things won't work, and some things may fall over, but at least the wheels are in motion!

I appreciate very much the time and effort in trying to help balance and bring some new life to the game :)
+1 you have been amazing.
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Re: 2016: ongoing

~Dä Vinci~ wrote:ow ok, so lets cut it in half that's an easy fix. How about thinking about an alternative to gaining g&r and not just sitting around. PPT an essential in a turn base game and you shouldn't be crippled by it. This update or potential update is counter productive and would be more damaging then beneficial.
Tom just knows i'll DS the crap out of him for minimal losses if he builds to rank 1 outside of an 8 day PPT run :smt060

valid point tho... double strike needs to go - Da Vinci had what? 300m+ super guard defence other day, and i halved it in seconds for minimal losses- would have leveled it in a minute flat if he didnt pop on and nox me.

nobody wants to compete for rank 1 when when some flog like Tees is just going to come along and drop it like its hot in a matter of minutes for the sake of half hours worth of farming.
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[5:26:57 AM ] josh: 30% of 100 is 33.3333333333333
[5:27:11 AM] Jake/Tees: LOL
[5:27:23 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to pretend you didnt say that
[5:27:29 AM] Jake/Tees: actually no
[5:27:33 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to sig it
[5:27:49 AM] Jake/Tees: now think cafefully
[5:27:49 AM] josh: w8
[5:27:53 AM] josh: i meant 100
[5:28:04 AM] josh: sorted
[5:28:07 AM] josh: **Filtered** u :D
[5:28:09 AM] Jake/Tees: if 30% of 100
[5:28:11 AM] Jake/Tees: is 33.3333333
[5:28:13 AM] Jake/Tees: then tell me
[5:28:17 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33%?
[5:28:19 AM] josh: yeah i knew what i ment in my head :D
[5:28:30 AM] Jake/Tees: did you?
[5:28:34 AM] josh: w8
[5:28:37 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33% josh???
[5:28:43 AM] josh: now thats 33,3333
[5:28:46 AM] Jake/Tees: :D
[5:28:48 AM] Jake/Tees: idiot
[5:28:48 AM] josh: ok
[5:28:50 AM] josh: i give in
[5:29:01 AM] josh: **Filtered**


[9:42:59 PM] robert: look my race :P
[9:43:09 PM] robert: zombie will not come here
[9:43:51 PM] josh: ah no brains
[9:44:04 PM] josh: bit harsh on yourself rob


[11:56:17 PM] Duderanch: KOS [ TÅTS - KOS it IS]
[12:03:49 AM] Duderanch: Someone is scraping the bottom of the barrel
[12:03:59 AM] Duderanch: just cant decide if it's kos or taf


[4:13:09 AM] Cersei Lannister - (Juliette): It's sad to see how many people here (in NL) are starting to use Arabic words for **Filtered**.
[4:13:54 AM] HiMyNameIs Martin: So then getting stoned in the NL may take on another meaning (worry)
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Re: 2016: ongoing

IMO progressive decline to UP if not logged in after X amount of days may help - ofc capped at a % rate, so as to raid targets are not abolished all together...

less UU = more lenience in massing... right now i can afford to burn 500bil uu massing in an hour because it only takes an hour of farming to replace them.
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[5:26:57 AM ] josh: 30% of 100 is 33.3333333333333
[5:27:11 AM] Jake/Tees: LOL
[5:27:23 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to pretend you didnt say that
[5:27:29 AM] Jake/Tees: actually no
[5:27:33 AM] Jake/Tees: im going to sig it
[5:27:49 AM] Jake/Tees: now think cafefully
[5:27:49 AM] josh: w8
[5:27:53 AM] josh: i meant 100
[5:28:04 AM] josh: sorted
[5:28:07 AM] josh: **Filtered** u :D
[5:28:09 AM] Jake/Tees: if 30% of 100
[5:28:11 AM] Jake/Tees: is 33.3333333
[5:28:13 AM] Jake/Tees: then tell me
[5:28:17 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33%?
[5:28:19 AM] josh: yeah i knew what i ment in my head :D
[5:28:30 AM] Jake/Tees: did you?
[5:28:34 AM] josh: w8
[5:28:37 AM] Jake/Tees: whats 33% josh???
[5:28:43 AM] josh: now thats 33,3333
[5:28:46 AM] Jake/Tees: :D
[5:28:48 AM] Jake/Tees: idiot
[5:28:48 AM] josh: ok
[5:28:50 AM] josh: i give in
[5:29:01 AM] josh: **Filtered**


[9:42:59 PM] robert: look my race :P
[9:43:09 PM] robert: zombie will not come here
[9:43:51 PM] josh: ah no brains
[9:44:04 PM] josh: bit harsh on yourself rob


[11:56:17 PM] Duderanch: KOS [ TÅTS - KOS it IS]
[12:03:49 AM] Duderanch: Someone is scraping the bottom of the barrel
[12:03:59 AM] Duderanch: just cant decide if it's kos or taf


[4:13:09 AM] Cersei Lannister - (Juliette): It's sad to see how many people here (in NL) are starting to use Arabic words for **Filtered**.
[4:13:54 AM] HiMyNameIs Martin: So then getting stoned in the NL may take on another meaning (worry)
~Tziki~ wrote:my ass is busy :'(
You are as peaceful as a nox kitten. Disgraceful.
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Re: 2016: ongoing

New icons for nox and critical are just horrible. Why colours? Completly out of line with the rest of the site.
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ombre wrote:New icons for nox and critical are just horrible. Why colours? Completly out of line with the rest of the site.
Maybe this is the first step in the rest of the site is changing :razz:
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