[01:32] <~adminHere> sorry my mirc wants $$$
so am on java chat todaay until i reinstall mirc[01:32] <~adminHere> wow small room. i assume it IS friday
[01:33] <~adminHere> or that mirc is asking everyone for $$ and not letting them use it otherwise
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[01:40] <+TacticalCommander> hey
[01:41] <~adminHere> wow ... life
[01:41] <&Paul> lol
[01:41] <+TacticalCommander> Yes, always life when I have food
[01:41] <~adminHere> is ok i am still drinking coffee
[01:41] <&Paul> life is overated
[01:42] <~adminHere> yes, but coffee is not
[01:42] <+TacticalCommander> I have a year old + suggestion that I think could still be useful if your thinking of changing appt and such
[01:43] <~adminHere> go on...
[01:43] <+TacticalCommander> Premise: Make defenses more easily/less costly to rebuild without increasing the difficulty or losing the enjoyment of massing/farming.
[01:43] <+TacticalCommander> viewtopic.php?f=159&t=159824
[01:43] <&Paul> yah losing def completely sucks
[01:43] <~adminHere> if this is some type of 'memory' of what was there before, not so easy
[01:43] <&Paul> i lost 20tril def the otehr dya
[01:44] <~adminHere> maybe its in your other pants, paul?
[01:44] <+TacticalCommander> I don't think its a memory
[01:44] <&Paul> lol
[01:44] <~adminHere> give me the 2sentence summary tactical
[01:44] <&Paul> my pants are inpentritable
[01:44] <+TacticalCommander> uh....
[01:45] <+TacticalCommander> go when some uu is killed, it goest a medical facitlity, where a player can later reclaim them as units, similiar to the unit generation unique tech of non ascended
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[01:45] <&Paul> lol
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[01:46] <~adminHere> so uu are never lost?
[01:46] <+TacticalCommander> and the other is a weapon recycing tech that allows some of the naq from weapons to be recovered/auto adjusted back into a defense weapons
[01:46] <~adminHere> hm
[01:46] <+TacticalCommander> the UU was a % thing
[01:46] <~adminHere> not liking so much
[01:46] <~adminHere> kinda like MMA with no blood
[01:46] <+TacticalCommander> example, only 50% of the uu are saved
[01:46] <&Paul> they come back as less useful?
[01:47] <~adminHere> but tactical - if i lost a 20tril def -now -- i lose 20t
[01:47] <~adminHere> 'new' would lose 10t
[01:47] <+TacticalCommander> correct
[01:47] <~adminHere> it still loses def / T
[01:47] <~adminHere> just not as much
[01:47] <~adminHere> but if i had a 40T def... i'd lose 20T
[01:47] <~adminHere> i am not seeing a big 'win'
[01:47] <~adminHere> and the massing would continue
[01:47] <~adminHere> going 1/2 each time
[01:48] <~adminHere> plus now i have a whole new area of 'zombies and scrap metal'
[01:48] <&Paul> but taht would be fun
[01:48] <&Paul> i could send hte nubjs there
[01:48] <~adminHere> seems complex for a coupon, basicly
[01:48] <&Paul> to clean up
[01:48] <+MuppetMaster> mornin
[01:48] <+MuppetMaster> strange dream
[01:48] <+TacticalCommander> the idea at the time would be to see weapons and defence continouly being rebuilt, minimum of 1/2 and more massing = more fun
[01:48] <+MuppetMaster> i dunno how many times i stabbed that demon chick in the neck
[01:48] <+MuppetMaster> she just kept coming
[01:49] <&Paul> MuppetMaster thats ur future exwife someing after u for alamoni
[01:49] <~adminHere> the 2 items i was more thinking of: 1) increase ascensions to 40 and 2)some type of 'young galaxy' for accounts 1yr or less old... that is separate entirely from main current servers, with ability to move over before, or forced at 1yr
[01:49] <&Paul> move acesions to 40
[01:50] <+MuppetMaster> adminHere you should only need to click the register button for mirc once, it will take you to the registration link, then you can close that link
[01:50] <+MuppetMaster> it shouldnt bug you again
[01:50] <&Paul> that would make a whole lotta peope upset
[01:50] <~adminHere> yes, more mass = more fun, but currently can still rebuild - it just takes more thought/forethought
[01:50] <~adminHere> i got mirc issues solved muppet, ty
[01:50] <~notAdminHereOkYesItIs> yup solved
[01:51] <+MuppetMaster> np
[01:51] <+TacticalCommander> well, the young galaxy....could be fun
[01:52] <&Paul> but uping ascesions again to 40
[01:52] <&Paul> would mean
[01:52] <&Paul> if someone wants to start a new
[01:52] <&Paul> it would take over 1.5 yrs
[01:52] <&Paul> to catch up
[01:52] <&Paul> at teh fast spead
[01:52] <~adminHere> well - is that not ok?
[01:52] <~adminHere> i have heard arguments for 'getting to top level faster' but that discounts the 1.5yr + others have pu tin
[01:52] <+TacticalCommander> since interaction between the 2 be non existant I'm guessing,
[01:52] <&Paul> that would make it a very long tim investment
[01:53] <+MuppetMaster> ohgod more ascensions
[01:53] <+MuppetMaster> count me out
[01:53] <~adminHere> *thinking*
[01:53] <&Paul> i mean and 1.5yrs
[01:53] <~adminHere> not *doing* (yet)
[01:53] <&Paul> would be the fastest u could get there
[01:53] <~adminHere> well, yes
[01:53] <&Paul> for a new player that hasnt played
[01:53] <~adminHere> but 1yr could be with others new too
[01:53] <+MuppetMaster> the gap is already too big for new players
[01:54] <+MuppetMaster> ive had my share of n00blets quit because of me ;o
[01:54] <~adminHere> thus the '1yr young server'
[01:54] <&Paul> 4.6 years if u were to go by a 21day per ascension
[01:54] <~adminHere> lol
[01:54] <&Paul> 4.6yrs is a very long term investment of time
[01:54] <&Paul> just to catch up to experienced players
[01:54] <~adminHere> i should have stuck to my guns and required a 100% wipe of account
would have leveled it more[01:55] <+TacticalCommander> indeed
[01:55] <&Paul> id have to agree
[01:55] <~adminHere> damn whiney players
[01:55] <~adminHere> they got me!
[01:55] <&Paul> i was all for wipes after each ascension
[01:55] <&Paul> with just hte ss bonus
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[01:55] <~adminHere> ya. me too then i got complained at too much
[01:55] <~adminHere> and caved
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[01:56] <&Paul> i was ascending rather fast at first
[01:56] <&Paul> till the 2week thing and the no longer wiping account
[01:56] <+TacticalCommander> ok, so this new 1 year server, could I be allowed to create a new account to play?
[01:56] <&Paul> since my account was getting wiped it maede it more fun
[01:56] <&Paul> to figure out what i needed to do
[01:57] <+TacticalCommander> because I see this 1 year server thing actually be very cool idea admin
[01:57] <~adminHere> if i allow the move to existing, i would have to think about the multi aspect
[01:57] <~adminHere> but the goal is to make newbies not quit
[01:58] <+TacticalCommander> well, I wouldn't move it, I'd delete
[01:58] <~adminHere> as they get wiped by massive alliances
[01:58] <+TacticalCommander> it and then restart over every 1 year
[01:58] <~adminHere> like i say - *thinking*
[01:58] <&Paul> nubjs get wiped out by typin in irc sometimes by 1 player..
[01:58] <+TacticalCommander> as would anyone else who only wants to play the 1 year server, but since it doesn't officially reset, it everyone in theory would get a turn being on top
[01:59] <~adminHere> yup
[01:59] <&Paul> on this 1yr server
[01:59] <~adminHere> yes.....
[01:59] <&Paul> id think bout nixing the 2week between ascesion requirement
[01:59] <+TacticalCommander> would have to work out something that prevents players from sending resources to other accounts before they delete
[01:59] <~adminHere> up to xxx ascensions, maybe yes
[01:59] <&Paul> this way they can only do it if its a 'new' account
[01:59] <~adminHere> the other thing i can do is for ascensions above current max, change the benefits
[02:00] <&Paul> and 2ndly making it feasibvle for the newer playing to try to catch up
[02:01] <~adminHere> yes
[02:01] <~adminHere> a good idea
[02:01] <&Paul> increasing current ascesions thou...
[02:01] <&Paul> idk
[02:02] <&Paul> ur goin to hear alot of complaining
[02:02] <~adminHere> i am seriously considering it as i am still trying to get new players via ads, etc -- and hate to have them all feel hopeless and quit
[02:02] <&Paul> if u increse it
[02:02] <~adminHere> well - if i change benefits of asc ...
[02:02] <~adminHere> pick the right benefit for current max+
[02:02] <&Paul> well i gotta say i had a new get massed hte other day
[02:02] <&Paul> and they sticked around surprisingly
[02:02] <~adminHere> 'suprisingly' lol
[02:02] <~adminHere> i dont like sound of that
[02:03] <&Paul> he is a special case
[02:03] <+MuppetMaster> hes got orders never to talk to paul again
[02:03] <~adminHere> lol
[02:03] <+TacticalCommander> would there be ascension in this 1 year account?
[02:03] <&Paul> like u wanna punch him in the face if u read chat
[02:03] <+MuppetMaster> from his alliance empire
[02:03] <~adminHere> tactical - i think yes
[02:03] <~adminHere> nothing is decided though
[02:03] <~adminHere> it just makes sense at this point in time though
[02:03] <~adminHere> like others say -gap too big
[02:04] <+MuppetMaster> indeed, tis VERY big
[02:04] <+MuppetMaster> same with MS's
[02:04] <+TacticalCommander> well it works because at a minimum, it resets every year if the someone chooses to delete and recreate,
[02:04] <&Paul> if u were goin to increase acession cap past Unknown
[02:04] <&Paul> make it an account wipe past unknown
[02:04] <&Paul> and dont make it 40 for the love of god
[02:04] <+MuppetMaster> lol
[02:05] <&Paul> cuz i dont look forward to teh next 18months of ascending
[02:05] <~adminHere> lol
[02:05] <~adminHere> fair points
[02:06] <~adminHere> i could do one more - reset to zero asc again, but give some uber benefit
[02:06] <+MuppetMaster> im not doing any more ascensions unless i get 100% of my UP invested naq back >_>
[02:06] <+TacticalCommander> I will jot some ideas down admin and email them to you maybe?
[02:06] <&Paul> lol.
[02:06] <~adminHere> sounds good tactical
[02:06] <&Paul> the only thing u should keep after a ascension in opinion
[02:06] <&Paul> is planets
[02:06] <&Paul> and lifers
[02:07] <~adminHere> ok i gotto call it a meet, and get to some worky things
[02:07] <&Paul> everything else should disappear
[02:07] <~adminHere> again nothing is 100% decided - including 'do it or not' as well as 'how to do it if do it'
[02:07] <~adminHere> but those are my current thoughts ...
[02:07] <+TacticalCommander> thats why its called the brainstorming
[02:07] <~adminHere> ok - thanks very much all. admin gary will be taking the PM meet...
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