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(08:28:41am) (+Aiz) you broke him
(08:29:00am) (&Paul) i do that
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(08:32:53am) (~adminHere) afternoon
(08:33:13am) (+SuperSaiyan) afternoon
(08:33:15am) (+O11OO1O) hey
(08:33:17am) • +Feri slaps adminHere around a bit with a large trout
(08:33:38am) (&Paul) evening boss man
(08:33:42am) (+Aiz) moin
(08:33:45am) (+Feri) hey jason
(08:33:51am) (+Aiz) hmm whare be Amec
(08:34:44am) (~adminHere) ? i did not put him anywhere
(08:35:00am) (&Paul) i smacked him with a 2 by 4
(08:37:02am) (~adminHere) better than a 4x2
(08:37:17am) (+Ifrit) hey j
(08:37:40am) (+Ifrit) how are you today?
(08:37:59am) (~adminHere) ok. had a big easter egg hunt. in my community of 5,000 people, there were 960 kids
(08:38:02am) (~adminHere) go figure
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(08:38:31am) (+Cardinal) and they couldn't find them so turned on all the bunnies
(08:38:42am) (+Ifrit) sounds fun
(08:39:02am) (+SuperSaiyan) lol, sounds like a vender with aspirin would have made a fortune
(08:39:32am) (+Anwnn) *glomps SS*
(08:39:36am) (+Anwnn) hi everybody
(08:41:04am) (+Ifrit) hey
(08:41:34am) (+Anwnn) very active chat here >.>
(08:41:54am) (+SuperSaiyan) oh yes, always very lively
(08:42:11am) (+SuperSaiyan) *cattle prods the wild crowd*
(08:43:12am) (~adminHere) sorry pm
(08:43:20am) (+Feri) sorry distracting him
(08:43:26am) (+Feri) *whistles*
(08:43:33am) (~adminHere)
(08:43:42am) (~adminHere) the 'bunnies' were actually big firemen
(08:43:47am) (+Ifrit) not only you *whistles*
(08:43:54am) (~adminHere) the 'in the forest volunteers'
(08:44:02am) (+Feri) I'M SPECIAL Ifrit
(08:44:04am) (+Feri) it was just me
(08:44:07am) (+Feri) *glare*
(08:44:07am) (+Ifrit) lies
(08:44:14am) (~adminHere) so - wassup?
(08:44:22am) (+Feri) umm I cant think of anything...
(08:44:30am) (+Cardinal) the sky?
(08:44:31am) (+Feri) asc power doubled again a lil annoying
(08:44:36am) (+Cardinal) a moon maybe?
(08:45:01am) (+Ifrit) not much, just showed up to see what was open on the discussions. Thought maybe you had stuff to share with us...
(08:45:26am) (+Cardinal) Feri do you mean TOc?
(08:45:35am) (+Feri) yeah.
(08:45:47am) (+Ifrit) its great feri, lots of activity in ascended now
(08:45:57am) (+Cardinal) personally i think it's good
(08:46:16am) (+Cardinal) 'cos if it was not doubled again i wouldn't be able to be deascended
(08:46:18am) (+Feri) I guess maybe on that note it is
(08:46:30am) (+Feri) I'm descendable... just not easily at least
(08:46:41am) (~adminHere) lol
(08:46:42am) (+Ifrit) indeed same for me Feri
(08:46:56am) (+Ifrit) i like it, makes me parinoid
(08:47:04am) (+Feri) lol
(08:47:05am) (~adminHere) anything to keep it lively. i am still pissed at all the whiners for nerfing the asc weapon
(08:47:10am) (+Cardinal) takes 25 hits for me on the 2.5 hour calculator so probably nearer 30 hits at 3.6 bil
(08:47:14am) (+Feri) I never saw the asc wep
(08:47:14am) (~adminHere) BOOM you have no account.
(08:47:17am) (~adminHere) do it to the next guy...
(08:47:21am) (+Cardinal) not 3.6
(08:47:22am) (+Feri) lol
(08:47:23am) (+Cardinal) 5.6
(08:47:40am) (+Feri) I think the top toc can descend me in 2 days as of right now
(08:47:43am) (~adminHere) it was liek 'the box' movie -- you could hit ANYONE you wanted (then they got the weapon after you hit em with it)
(08:47:47am) (+Cardinal) 3.6 is the bare min if you have like millions of years
(08:48:00am) (+Ifrit) heh, I like the concept of the weapon, but it was very easy to manipulate from what I read.... never got to see it work
(08:48:29am) (+Cardinal) a super weapon?
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(08:48:39am) (+Ifrit) hey Photo
(08:48:43am) (+Cardinal) well from that poll that was made months ago
(08:48:58am) (+Cardinal) it was pretty even up until the last month
(08:49:10am) (+SuperSaiyan) from just that, whoever uses the weapon first seems to get a free hit with it
(08:49:36am) (+Ifrit) you really should do in game polls, with links to forums.... that way anyone wanting to add feedback can....
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(08:50:03am) (+Anwnn) ooo yey people started talking while i was busy with other stuff ^.^
(08:50:18am) (+Feri) wish I had something useful to suggest
(08:50:21am) (+Feri) usually I'm just whining about something
(08:50:29am) (+Ifrit) lol
(08:50:31am) (+Feri) dont even have anything to whine about
(08:50:56am) (+SuperSaiyan) you can complain about the color of the carpeting in J's office
(08:51:11am) (&Paul) i thikn its tiel not carpet
(08:51:19am) (+SuperSaiyan) even better!
(08:51:27am) (+Anwnn) easier to clean up accidents >.>
(08:51:41am) (&Paul) take ur shoes of and SLIDE
(08:51:46am) (+Cardinal) you know what i think its about time admin added somthing to the accounts over 6 years
(08:51:58am) (+Ifrit) like?
(08:52:08am) (&Paul) we already gota cool red title
(08:52:09am) (+Cardinal) another colour title
(08:52:13am) (+SuperSaiyan) bumper stickers on the MS
(08:52:18am) (+Ifrit) lol SS
(08:52:24am) (+Cardinal) yeah!
(08:52:27am) (+SuperSaiyan) alliances have their fuzzy dice
(08:52:31am) • +Feri slaps Cardinal around a bit with a large trout
(08:52:32am) (+Ifrit) that would be cool
(08:52:37am) (+SuperSaiyan) might as well give MS's bumper stickers
(08:52:38am) (+Cardinal) so like it comes up in the battle log
(08:52:52am) (+Cardinal) feri you can keep slapping me all you like
(08:52:52am) (+Anwnn) SS wants a tramp stamp for his MS XD
(08:52:59am) (+SuperSaiyan) precisely
(08:53:04am) (+Aiz) omg its photonix
(08:53:08am) (+Aiz) hows ur multi doing
(08:53:59am) (~adminHere) super -i got hardwood (laminate)
(08:54:09am) (~adminHere) i have lotsa accidents
(08:54:12am) (+SuperSaiyan) much classier than tiles
(08:54:18am) (+Cardinal) you need carpet
(08:54:24am) (+Cardinal) carpet says it all
(08:54:25am) (+SuperSaiyan) shag carpet!
(08:54:32am) (+Cardinal) no need for shoes then
(08:54:53am) (+Cardinal) like the 1 inch wool carpets
(08:54:54am) (~adminHere) i left my shag in teh 70's
(08:54:59am) (+Anwnn) lol
(08:55:02am) (+Ifrit) hehe
(08:55:03am) (+SuperSaiyan) I say we pitch in and buy J a wet bar for his office
(08:55:05am) (~adminHere) with my key and pill bowls
(08:55:10am) (~adminHere) lol
(08:55:16am) (+SuperSaiyan) I would imagine it would be quite useful on fridays
(08:55:20am) (+Anwnn) ^.^
(08:55:39am) (~adminHere) the pill and key bowls, yes
(08:55:45am) (~adminHere) wasnt' taht a party
(08:55:55am) (~adminHere) it sexplains my tpying skls
(08:56:04am) (+Anwnn) lulz
(08:56:05am) (+Ifrit) lol
(08:56:29am) (+SuperSaiyan) its all stories to tell the grandkids
(08:56:48am) (~adminHere) concept: a newbie server that has a way to progress to high end of main without going through main ....
(08:57:01am) (+Cardinal) errr...
(08:57:06am) (+Anwnn) meh.
(08:57:07am) (~adminHere) solution to problem: newbies can never catch up
(08:57:08am) (+Ifrit) sounds like perg......
(08:57:09am) (+Cardinal) that be like sever on day one
(08:57:14am) (~adminHere) yes
(08:57:19am) (+Cardinal) wouldn't be enough farms really
(08:57:22am) (~adminHere) but unlike perg the 'big guys' not around
(08:57:24am) (+Anwnn) honestly when i was a newbie being on main was helpful due to all the dead farms that i could hit without fear of retal
(08:57:33am) (+SuperSaiyan) how would they be able to progress any faster?
(08:57:42am) (~adminHere) well anwnn - they difference is a different scale
(08:57:48am) (~adminHere) being #1 in small pond
(08:57:52am) (~adminHere) is sitll counted as #1
(08:58:07am) (+Cardinal) err
(08:58:23am) (~adminHere) so if youcna bigfish in smallpond enough - you can 'ascend' to living god, or higher in main.
(08:58:25am) (~adminHere) or something
(08:58:32am) (~adminHere) toying with concept. i tell you why:
(08:58:33am) (+Anwnn) yes but if they want to progress to main
(08:58:40am) (+Anwnn) then when they move to main they will no longer be #1
(08:58:46am) (~adminHere) gatewars today = too complet for new accounts
(08:58:51am) (~adminHere) complet=complex
(08:58:52am) (+Anwnn) and they will miss out on pretty nice farming opportunities on main
(08:58:54am) (~adminHere) so they quit
(08:59:01am) (+Cardinal) move all the account over 1 year inactivity to there so they can farm
(08:59:09am) (+SuperSaiyan) why not just heavily restrict perg to newb-ish accounts and make in mandatory to be in until you reach a certain point
(08:59:09am) (~adminHere) well again its not apple <> apple
(08:59:10am) (+Anwnn) i dont think it being complex is the reason they quit
(08:59:22am) (+Anwnn) i think its the lack of a helpful FAQ and the attitude of the players
(08:59:25am) (+SuperSaiyan) and no back tracking, once you are out you are out
(08:59:42am) (~adminHere) a lot is... some is 'abuse' by others.. .some is the large existing politic
(08:59:49am) (+Ifrit) and also lack of updated help guide.... just saying
(08:59:53am) (~adminHere) there is a lot there. back when sgw new, it was much simpler
(08:59:56am) (+Aiz) my n00blet officers always recieve threats from bigger players
(09:00:02am) (&Paul) sgw is simple
(09:00:04am) (~adminHere) people could undserstand it, learn it, then over time it grew WITH them
(09:00:05am) (+Aiz) ive had 10 or so previous officers quit
(09:00:08am) (&Paul) just mass them all adn let god sort um out
(09:00:16am) (+Anwnn) yup
(09:00:17am) (+SuperSaiyan) most of the new players I see go, is a combination of annoying politics and player attitude more so than an FAQ problem
(09:00:20am) (+Anwnn) i mean if they are going to move to main
(09:00:26am) (~adminHere) god does not have to pay server bills paul
(09:00:27am) (+Anwnn) then they need to learn how to navigate main early on
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(09:00:46am) (~adminHere) but anwnn - by time they get to main, they know a lot of the stuff
(09:00:48am) (&Paul) i know this quite well adminHere but some n00bs need ot pay there dues at some point
(09:00:53am) (~adminHere) and the learnign curve is not 0 to 100 in 1 day
(09:00:54am) (+Anwnn) coddling them on a different server doesnt prepair them for the move to main
(09:00:57am) (~adminHere) its 60 to 100 in a bit
(09:00:59am) (+Cardinal) TBH SGW/TGW is probably one of the most simplistic games i have ever played
(09:01:10am) (~adminHere) cardinal - i may agree, but many do nto
(09:01:11am) (+Anwnn) exactly
(09:01:23am) (+Anwnn) i easily learned this game in a week by asking 9 million questions
(09:01:25am) (~adminHere) if i made a game for me, it'd fail
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(09:01:43am) (+Cardinal) i mean you look at main and if your lost you will be worse off when you hit ascended
(09:01:46am) (~adminHere) as it'd be so complex nobody would play. and of course i'd change the rules all the time
(09:01:58am) (+Anwnn) so i mean if you want to make a separate server fine but i dont think it will solve the player retention problem.
(09:02:00am) (+Cardinal) lol but i was lucky to have several people talk me through it all
(09:02:11am) (~adminHere) anyway if there were a place, for even a month, that was super newbie friendly
(09:02:14am) (&Paul) this is what irc is for
(09:02:16am) (~adminHere) i think that would help keep newbies
(09:02:27am) (+Anwnn) i thought that was supposed to be what perg was for
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(09:02:34am) (~adminHere) ppl say 'advertise more' etc -- well, i do
but then they do not stay. have to find a way to fix that
(09:02:38am) (&Paul) opps lappy pingged out
(09:02:39am) (~adminHere) supposed to be yes
(09:02:43am) (+Feri) give bonuses to people if they join irc and talk
(09:02:47am) (~adminHere)
(09:02:52am) (+Feri) not for us but to get those that dont come in here to
(09:02:54am) (+Anwnn) well there are a lot of things that could be done to help with that like making the site actually look nice...
(09:02:55am) (&Paul) feri
(09:02:55am) (+SuperSaiyan) why not do a 30-60day limit on incoming attacks to noobs?
(09:03:05am) (&Paul) if we could come to a way to do taht without unbalancing the game
(09:03:08am) (&Paul) i think we would
(09:03:11am) (+Anwnn) SS thats a good idea
(09:03:16am) (+Anwnn) brb
(09:03:17am) (+Feri) small bonuses
(09:03:18am) (+Ifrit) admin there is also sites where players can vote on certain games, to help give it support.
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(09:03:26am) (&Paul) i like the idea of giving bonuses to people who use irc
(09:03:31am) (+SuperSaiyan) There was something similar on another game I used to play, noobs could be hit once or twice but not massed etc for a month or two
(09:03:32am) (&Paul) just nothing big
(09:03:33am) (+Aiz) me too
(09:03:34am) (+Aiz) ;o
(09:03:37am) (~adminHere) ifrit -tried that before, but its never turned out well
(09:03:47am) (+Aiz) voting sites blow
(09:03:48am) (~adminHere) the voting, that is
(09:04:01am) (~adminHere) the game becomes the voting.
(09:04:09am) (+Ifrit) fair enough
(09:04:12am) (+SuperSaiyan) like the perg limit on AT use, it'd stop someone from using more than lets say 100 turns on an account under 60 days old
(09:04:19am) (+Cardinal) yeah empires would use number to just win everything
(09:04:24am) (+SuperSaiyan) this way new people have two months before they can get sat on
(09:04:26am) (&Paul) top sites are only good for illegally propagrting files
(09:04:32am) (+Anwnn) well if perg is supposed to be for newbies then why not make some changes to perg to make it actually serve that purpose rather than starting a new server?
(09:04:34am) (+SuperSaiyan) and gives them a chance to learn what they need to
(09:04:42am) (+Anwnn) make all newly made accounts automatically go to pergatory
(09:05:02am) (+Ifrit) yea I like that concept admin
(09:05:16am) (+Anwnn) put measures in place to make perg more noob friendly
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(09:05:27am) (+Ifrit) Help & Rules
(09:05:29am) (+Anwnn) like limiting incoming assaults for x number of days like SS suggested
(09:05:32am) (+Anwnn) things like that
(09:05:36am) (~adminHere) the largest problem with sgw is that yer all too damn smart
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(09:05:42am) (+Cardinal) change perg back to unlimited hits as soon as they ascend they join main
(09:05:42am) (+Anwnn) ^.^
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(09:05:54am) (+Cardinal) and no ascend can go into main
(09:05:56am) (+SuperSaiyan) lol
(09:05:58am) (+Cardinal) perg*
(09:06:02am) (+SuperSaiyan) force feed us all roofies
(09:06:05am) (+Anwnn) also maybe decrease the AS allowed to be in perg
(09:06:20am) (~adminHere) ya all good ideas
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(09:06:24am) (+Cardinal) Lg and below?
(09:06:30am) (+Anwnn) yea i like that
(09:06:33am) (~adminHere) the only issue is those using perg for 'slower gameplay' -- not new, just like it better slower
(09:06:38am) (+Ifrit) I dont know about soon as ascended maybe at AG
(09:06:40am) (+Anwnn) and maybe <30mil AS only
(09:06:50am) (+Cardinal) make a mortal relm
(09:06:58am) (+SuperSaiyan) I think either my suggestion to stop noob massing for 30-60 days or a total perg revamp might help
(09:07:05am) (~adminHere) anyway - gonna call it a meet. i am very impressed with those that came on easter
(09:07:09am) (&Paul) noob massing...
(09:07:10am) (~adminHere) and good ideas too
(09:07:16am) (&Paul) i plee the fifth
(09:07:17am) (+Anwnn) there are a lot of people who stop ascending before AG though
(09:07:19am) (+Ifrit) thanks J
(09:07:24am) (+Anwnn) so i would say kick them out earlier than that
(09:07:36am) (+Ifrit) hope the rest of your day is good
(09:07:37am) (~adminHere) something will be done. just havta figure out exactly what.
(09:07:43am) (~adminHere) cause i want newbies sticking
(09:07:44am) (+Anwnn)
(09:07:47am) (+Ifrit) same here
(09:07:47am) (~adminHere) helps us all
(09:07:54am) (~adminHere) ok - thanks again all!!
(09:07:58am) (~adminHere) till nextimte
(09:07:59am) (+Anwnn) seriously, redo the graphics
(09:07:59am) (+Ifrit) maybe create a list of people willing to take officers
(09:08:06am) (~adminHere) anwnn - considering
(09:08:08am) (+Ifrit) to help newbies
(09:08:12am) (+Anwnn) its cosmetic, but it will make the site look shiny and will turn on new players
(09:08:22am) (&Paul) ban my account from attacking ne account less tehn 90 days old?
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