Admin meeting 13/05/2011

[Tekki]

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[01:34] <~adminHere> morning
06[01:34] * +Zeratul greet adminHere
[01:34] <+Odin> howdy admin
[01:34] <+Ifrit> morning
[01:34] <+DixilandPimp> Hi there
[01:34] <+RobeSGW> gday
[01:34] <~adminHere> early or late for you robe?
[01:34] <+RobeSGW> 1.30 am Sat morning
[01:34] <+Odin> '1:34
[01:34] <~adminHere> usually yer a pm meet
[01:34] <+RobeSGW> pft queenslanders
[01:34] <~adminHere> lol.
[01:34] <+Rodwolf> that's still early for my standards
[01:35] <+RobeSGW> yeah was up and wanted to sleep in
[01:35] <~adminHere> so before anyone points it out --yes - - i changed plague AGAIN
[01:35] <+Rodwolf> how so?
[01:35] <~adminHere> i like early AM
[01:35] <+DixilandPimp> Ò_Ó
[01:35] <+Ifrit> lol
[01:35] <~adminHere> i made mercs worth 1 unit again
[01:35] <+RobeSGW> Yeah we noticed
[01:35] <~adminHere> i hated the half count on the summary. 99.5% of people are not affected
[01:35] <+RobeSGW> I logged in and untrained pretty quickly...
[01:35] <+DixilandPimp> You like to excite us with surprises admin ?
[01:35] <~adminHere> yet they see the 'half count' text
[01:35] <~adminHere> lol
[01:35] <~adminHere> yes, i like suprises
[01:36] <+RobeSGW> never a dull moment
[01:36] <+DixilandPimp> I wonder if anyone noticed
[01:36] <~adminHere> i did balance the mercs iwth a move to 300M doubling of plauge
[01:36] <+Ifrit> figured u did j
[01:36] <+Rodwolf> so we are back to the first plague update of about a week or two ago?
[01:36] <~adminHere> no rodwolf -its less
[01:36] <+RobeSGW> everything was red so i checked game updates and saw
[01:36] <~adminHere> that was 200M now its 300M to double
[01:36] <+Rodwolf> ah ok
06[01:36] * +Zeratul surprise adminHere with a bucket of water over the door
[01:36] <+DixilandPimp> going back and forth all .... perhaps one day we'll say "dont pay attention, admin prolly tried to surpise us
[01:37] <~adminHere> so if you have 1100M it was 3x what it was before
[01:37] <~adminHere> now it is 2x at 1100M
[01:37] <+RobeSGW> Hows the Old Skool House going Jason
[01:37] <~adminHere> have not started it yet
[01:37] <~adminHere> but i do like the idea and see no reason not to do it
[01:37] <~adminHere> and the mirror house
[01:37] <~adminHere> as its opposite
06[01:37] * +DixilandPimp splits one of zera's personalities and locks it inn the cuppboard
[01:37] <+RobeSGW> i think it woudl be popular to test at least
[01:37] <~adminHere> (better names coming)
[01:38] <+RobeSGW> yes need to be more in keeping with the rest
06[01:38] * +Zeratul unlocks cupboard from the inside
[01:38] <+Ifrit> oh and have you been chipin at the ascended stuff?
[01:38] <+DixilandPimp> I'll refrain from further fun, becomes spammy -_-
[01:38] <+RobeSGW> So does everyone think the plague is better now
[01:38] <+RobeSGW> or about right
[01:38] <+DixilandPimp> yeah we are all over the limit here >_>
06[01:38] * +Zeratul prefer chronic-bubonic plague
[01:38] <+Ifrit> no but its better then it was before
[01:38] <+RobeSGW> i think we cured that one too
[01:39] <+RobeSGW> antibiotics
[01:39] <+Zeratul> not the chronic version
[01:39] <+Zeratul> its not deadly, but it comes back... again and again and again....
[01:39] <+Odin> *locks zeratul in cage* silence!
[01:39] <+Rodwolf> so how far are you with the cost per turn for mercs admin?
[01:39] <+DixilandPimp> Hey admin, how anout a kewl new layout, many volunteers offering something new for nada, and some of them look pretty damn awseome
[01:40] <+Zeratul> new ingame skins?
[01:40] <+RobeSGW> Was that lithiums suggestion
[01:40] <+Ifrit> yea
[01:40] <+RobeSGW> sounded like a good one
[01:40] <+Ifrit> were it cost per turn to keep mercs
[01:41] <+DixilandPimp> there are many topics in the set up suggestions threads ... take a multi account and sneakily read some occasionally
[01:41] <+Rodwolf> yes I believe Lithium brought it up
[01:41] <+RobeSGW> made sense to me too
[01:41] <+Rodwolf> yep
[01:41] <+DixilandPimp> lithium left
[01:42] <+RobeSGW> Its still a good idea
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[01:43] <~adminHere> sorry multi PM
[01:43] <+Ifrit> yea it happens
[01:43] <+DixilandPimp> BAN !
[01:43] <+DixilandPimp> >_>
[01:43] <+Odin>
[01:43] <+RobeSGW> I asked if everyone felt the plague was about right now, but no one answered
[01:44] <+Rodwolf> as long as it doesnt change again, it looks ok to me
[01:44] <~adminHere> re: cost per turn mercs -- look for a 'upcoming changes' idea that (in my mind) goes with plague update...
[01:44] <+DixilandPimp> how many people in this chat in plague reach ?
[01:44] <+Zeratul> more than one, less than 40
[01:45] <+Norbe> not anymore.. i was a couple of months ago
[01:45] <~adminHere> dixilandPimp - is there a thread somewhere or deposit of images? (re new look) ? its not so easy but i would consider, and i also have someone i can sick on it
[01:45] <+Ifrit> no but its better then before... it should be drastic enough to halt growth
[01:45] <+RobeSGW> i sit around the plague limit but rarely go over
[01:45] <+Odin> admin, i know ur not thinking about ascended right now but any chance that we can get the time and date stamp in attack logs of the ascended server like we do in main?
[01:45] <+DixilandPimp> can someone pull photonics thread ?
[01:45] <+DixilandPimp> he had some kinky good stuff !
[01:45] <~adminHere> i do robe (<+RobeSGW> I asked if everyone felt the plague was about right now, but no one answered)
06[01:45] * +DixilandPimp searches
[01:45] <+Ifrit> that was in the list of suggestion that I sent to j
[01:45] <+Odin> cool
06[01:46] * +Zeratul grins at adminHere's reply
[01:46] <~adminHere> odin - i thought it was there let me peek
[01:46] <+Odin> thanks admin *passes admin a scotch and coke*
[01:47] <~adminHere> oh you mena instead of just date, eh?
[01:47] <+Ifrit> can you check this out J?
[01:47] <+Ifrit> viewtopic.php?f=13&t=181847
[01:47] <+Odin> yeah
[01:47] <+Ifrit> give it some thought
[01:47] <+Odin> have date and then the time of which the attack happened
[01:47] <~adminHere> lol i thought you meant there was nothing there - just attacks
[01:47] <+Odin> sorry lol, should have made it more clear
[01:47] <+Odin> getting sleepy as its 1:47am lol
[01:47] <+DixilandPimp> viewtopic.php?f=13&t=180924&p=2289082#p2289082
01[01:47] <+Tekki> how about fixing ascension such that you can send in more than 2147483647 planets?
[01:47] <+DixilandPimp> there admin
[01:47] <~adminHere> ya i was a bit worried i would let that slip
[01:48] <+DixilandPimp> front page thing there
[01:48] <+Odin> looks smexy
[01:48] <+DixilandPimp> viewtopic.php?f=13&t=180924&start=15 half way page a menu example
[01:49] <+DixilandPimp> he ofc didnt make everything yet, but betting he is willing to do all if asked simply
[01:50] <+DixilandPimp> would give the game a massively new modern overhaul, some suggested an option to be abel to 'theme' which I can imgine for cell phones
[01:51] <+DixilandPimp> would entice a occasional passer by on the main page to reg sooner simply to check it out. the old on is ... old ..
[01:51] <~adminHere> checking...
[01:51] <~adminHere> and yes it is
[01:51] <+Ifrit> yea
[01:51] <+Ifrit> I have photonic's email if you want to get it touch with him
[01:52] <+DixilandPimp> if in doubt about style, you coud always have a short contest, many skilled graphic / signature designers on your forums, you could always sneakily select one
[01:52] <+DixilandPimp> but photonics work is by far best atm
[01:52] <+Ifrit> that would be pretty cool actually
[01:53] <+DixilandPimp> my opinion
[01:53] <+Ifrit> [11:47:38] <+Ifrit> can you check this out J?[11:47:39] <+Ifrit> viewtopic.php?f=13&t=181847
[01:55] <+RobeSGW> So if over plague Officers dont provide unit production?
[01:55] <+Ifrit> basically, bullseye suggested it a while back and tekki made a thread quoting him
[01:55] <+RobeSGW> ok catching up in forums thanks
[01:56] <+Ifrit> np
06[01:57] * +DixilandPimp roasts a stake while waiting
[01:58] <+DixilandPimp> splintery type there ó_Ò
[01:58] <+DixilandPimp> typo
06[01:58] * +Zeratul wonder why DixilandPimp eats wood
[01:59] <+DixilandPimp> my keyboard stink ... it was advised for nonesmokers
[01:59] <+DixilandPimp>
[01:59] <+Ifrit> ok well enjoy the private discussions
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[01:59] <+Ifrit> peace out
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[02:00] <+Rodwolf> officers were already limited in adding UP, bringing it to 0 at a certain lvl puts the entire officer/commander system on the edge
[02:00] <+DixilandPimp> admin, you reading in the forum ? or indeed doing private chats ?
[02:00] <+DixilandPimp> that would suck
[02:00] <+DixilandPimp> ifrit seems to have left cos of it
[02:01] <+DixilandPimp> many people beeen complaining about that on the forum
[02:01] <+RobeSGW> Yeah hes ingoring us - I might go to bed
[02:01] <+Zeratul> he's probably reading PMs yes
[02:01] <+Zeratul> he's not on the forums
[02:01] <+DixilandPimp> oi
[02:01] <+RobeSGW> i hope the pms are more interesting than this spam
[02:01] <+RobeSGW>
01[02:01] <+Tekki> removing officer UP at plague doesn't really affect officer commander relations
[02:01] <+DixilandPimp> Forums would be a far better choice to discuss parts or suggestions to the updates
06[02:01] * +Zeratul drops anvil on robe
[02:01] <+Zeratul> what spam?
01[02:02] <+Tekki> by that stage, reaching plague your relation is probably not based on the income/UP given anyway
[02:02] <+DixilandPimp> irc for new and occasional wild ideas perhaps
[02:02] <+Rodwolf> still why have officers then when they dont give you something back
[02:02] <+Rodwolf> ofcourse you keep them for the UP
[02:02] <+RobeSGW> whoever is talking to jason privately - please stop - so he can talk to us here
01[02:02] <+Tekki> people usually have them to provide them with massing targets - or that seems to be the new trend
[02:02] <+DixilandPimp> I have read endless lengths of plague related topics ...
[02:03] <+DixilandPimp> I'm not even half way there
[02:03] <+DixilandPimp> btw, I've never been botherd by plaguue in 4 years
01[02:03] <+Tekki> and that's the thing Rodwolf, do you really need officers at that level?
[02:03] <+Odin> doesnt mean its not an important topic
[02:03] <+Rodwolf> even more
[02:03] <~adminHere> sorry few more PM
[02:03] <~adminHere> although - check the time out on asc
[02:03] <+Rodwolf> as you more dependant on UP then
[02:03] <+DixilandPimp> true Odi, but, does it need to be in the center of many talks ?
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[02:03] <+Rodwolf> why have officers when you still can raid
[02:04] <+Odin> thanks admin ^_^
[02:04] <+DixilandPimp> I'd rather see the chance of a variety of other ideas cvoming to light
[02:04] <+DixilandPimp> heyyy he is back
[02:04] <+Rodwolf> they arent important as they are above raiding cap
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01[02:05] <+Tekki> so why have them at all at the lower ranks? if that's all that you care for them Rodwolf - just as UP producers.
[02:06] <+Rodwolf> its just a part of how it works
[02:06] <+Rodwolf> you give income
[02:06] <+Rodwolf> and they give you UP
[02:06] <+Rodwolf> its as it has always been
01[02:06] <+Tekki> LOL if that was the case Rodwolf
[02:06] <+Rodwolf> and the UP part is logically more important for the commander when that commander is above raiding cap
01[02:06] <+Tekki> we'd never make any changes to teh game
[02:07] <+DixilandPimp> Might I ask, the general intention when placing ideas in this thread, is it not to suggest new ideas or imrpovements, instead of lengthy discussions ? sorry not trying to be apin about it.
01[02:07] <+Tekki> and it's logically important that plague, which was designed to slow down growth be complimented by officer UP reduction at that level
[02:07] <+Rodwolf> but there has already been an update
[02:07] <+Rodwolf> so why add this

[Tekki]

01[02:07] <+Tekki> because it's complimentary
[02:07] <+Rodwolf> no its overdoing it
[02:08] <+Rodwolf> maybe in a year or so
01[02:08] <+Tekki> not really, it's forcing the individual to be an individual at plague
[02:08] <+Rodwolf> but there hasnt been any reglementation towards the plague since it came into game
[02:08] <+DixilandPimp> whe should have a plague channel perhaps to discuss the ideas pertaining ?
[02:08] <+Rodwolf> all these changes togheter in a matter of weeks are overkill
[02:08] <+RobeSGW> Thats not a good argument though Rodwolf
[02:08] <+Rodwolf> it is
[02:08] <+Rodwolf> imo
[02:08] <+RobeSGW> things need review and improvement
[02:09] <+Zeratul> @DixilandPimp: it is both to have discussions, to bring forth ideas, and to generally chat with Jason
[02:09] <+Rodwolf> but drastic changes are never good either
[02:09] <+RobeSGW> whether its plague, officers, ships, planets
[02:09] <+RobeSGW> i agree changes should nto be drastic
01[02:09] <+Tekki> not really Rodwolf, all the changes together, means that we get a new relationship and equilibrium not that we are continually altering things and shifting the change point
[02:09] <+Rodwolf> becaus players set up their accounts towards the game dynamics
[02:09] <+RobeSGW> not
[02:09] <+DixilandPimp> ohw in that case Jason is it ? e've never been formally introduced Hi ! how was your day ?
[02:09] <+Rodwolf> you get a lot of dissapointed players if you change things too drastically becaus then they have to adjust everything
[02:10] <+RobeSGW> Very few are over the plague
01[02:10] <+Tekki> and you already have a lot of disappointed players because things remain unblanced as is
[02:10] <+Rodwolf> then you shift that disappointed to another range of players
[02:10] <+Rodwolf> so not a good solution
01[02:11] <+Tekki> you assume everyone is able to be pleased though
[02:11] <+Norbe> the reason not many are over the plague is that it causes needless losses
[02:11] <+Rodwolf> indeed Norbe
[02:11] <~adminHere> yes they look good.
[02:11] <+Rodwolf> but there are players around who rather work on things and build their armysizes
[02:11] <+Norbe> but should any player have the resources to cope with those and go far beyond the plague limit
[02:11] <~adminHere> we had a contest for graphics years ago -where we got some we use today
[02:12] <+Rodwolf> if they set up their account to do so, why not
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[02:12] <+Aiz> moin Feri
[02:12] <+RobeSGW> Rodwolf when you say they set up their account, you are refering to a few players that are going to extraordinary lengths to beat the plague
[02:12] <+Rodwolf> are we really going to make an update each time a few accounts excell at something?
[02:12] <+RobeSGW> not the average player
[02:12] <+Aiz> plague isnt hard to beat
[02:12] <+Rodwolf> thats wrong
[02:13] <+Rodwolf> whats wrong with trying to be the best in game in something?
[02:13] <+Norbe> well the issue is they then can build themselves to the point where 99% of the game will be unable to attack them
[02:13] <+RobeSGW> when something is not operating correctly or as designed yes, you review it
[02:13] <+Odin> one can be the best doesnt mean they have to go overboard
[02:13] <+Rodwolf> well screwing with the officer/commander system just to stop the plague is wrong
[02:14] <+Norbe> and in the past, where people have excelled in something to the point they are untouchable, updates have been made to bring it back
[02:14] <+DixilandPimp> then, to keep it simple, should someone approach photonic for a full layout version which could be themed ?
[02:14] <+RobeSGW> How is making a change screwing with something
[02:14] <+Rodwolf> there is now an adjustment to the plague for that reason
[02:14] <+Rodwolf> cuz you are
[02:14] <+Rodwolf> no UP for a commander above raiding cap
[02:14] <+RobeSGW> It wasnt my idea Rodwolf so dont personalise it
[02:14] <+Rodwolf> with you I mend it general
01[02:14] <+Tekki> no UP for a commander over plague Rodwolf, not raiding
[02:14] <+RobeSGW> i just dont follow you reasoning that if someone makes a suggestion it cant be reviewed
[02:15] <+Rodwolf> everything can be reviewed
[02:15] <+DixilandPimp> tekki, robe, rodwolf, could you guys take a channel and discuss there ?
[02:15] <+RobeSGW> cause you allege its screwin with someone
01[02:15] <+Tekki> DixilandPimp - no
[02:15] <~adminHere> will have to think about officer/commander & plague...not considered that
[02:15] <+RobeSGW> nothing wrong with some healthy debate to find a happy medium
[02:15] <+Rodwolf> I say it would be screwing with the officer / commander relation
[02:15] <+DixilandPimp> but, only you three discuss most, and seem to be unclear about it ?
[02:16] <+RobeSGW> Its not Screwing....
[02:16] <+RobeSGW> Its reviewing
[02:16] <+DixilandPimp> I remember the same in last IRC logs
01[02:16] <+Tekki> I would say it was an update that compliments the plague effectiveness
[02:16] <+Norbe> but if you have officers and go over plague, does that mean they don't get income from you anymore?
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01[02:16] <+Tekki> I wasn't here last meeting Dixiland
[02:16] <+Norbe> or would it mean rather
[02:16] <+Rodwolf> well english is not my first language as its for you so sorry that i dont express myself good each time
06[02:16] * ~adminHere still catching up
[02:16] <+Aiz> moin cjk
[02:16] <+DixilandPimp> the discussion in generall tekki. My apologies if I intrude
[02:16] <+Aiz> yah they argue alot adminHere dont they
[02:16] <+RobeSGW> Just no need to make things personal Rodwolf ;0
[02:17] <+Rodwolf> But i'm not...
[02:17] <+RobeSGW> So suggestion was if you are over plague then up from officers dont count
[02:17] <+RobeSGW> I think the idea has merit
[02:17] <+Rodwolf> I dont
[02:17] <+Aiz> me neither
[02:17] <+RobeSGW> it only affects the larger players in game
[02:17] <+RobeSGW> Commander officer relations are meant for training
[02:17] <+Rodwolf> you take on officer to get something out of it aswell
[02:17] <+Rodwolf> says who?
01[02:17] <+Tekki> it was suggested by someone who is over the plague already
[02:17] <+RobeSGW> not to build mega acccounts
[02:17] <+RobeSGW> exactly tekki
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[02:18] <+SlayerS_fith> hey guys
[02:18] <+SlayerS_fith> jason still around?
[02:18] <+Aiz> yes
[02:18] <~adminHere> very good thank you - although still just starting (9am here). welcome to the place "<+DixilandPimp> ohw in that case Jason is it ? e've never been formally introduced Hi ! how was your day ?"
[02:19] <+DixilandPimp> Great, take some coffe, lengthy plague discussion going on here -_-
[02:19] <+Odin> commander/officer relations used to be alot more about protection and training....now days people only have huge amounts of officers to get a boost to get a huge army size to be above everyone else....which then leaves it hard for new players to grow to catch up...a limit on plauge in the sense of stopping officers giving UP boosts to commanders after they reach that plauge is a good idea i think....doesnt mean it destroys the bond
[02:20] <+RobeSGW> I remember when juan had 100 officers plus
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[02:20] <+DixilandPimp> is there a thread about plague discussion too ? perhaps an idea for admin to catch up when there are less other question ?
[02:20] <+Aiz> well when retards take your UP planets over a single naq hit, growth gets difficult
[02:20] <+Rodwolf> as you say odin, almost everyone has taken officers to either set up an income or a up circle
[02:20] <+RobeSGW> and it was lmited to 10 for the very same reason
[02:20] <+Rodwolf> so dont see why it should be changed for only a few players
[02:20] <+DixilandPimp> Aiz, perhaps people shouldnt set to war
01[02:20] <+Tekki> yes Dixiland there is a thread about plague discussion - weren't you complaining there were too many?
[02:20] <+Aiz> i dont set war when farming
[02:21] <+Aiz> ever
[02:21] <+DixilandPimp> ohw, ok
[02:21] <+Aiz>
01[02:21] <+Tekki> perhaps you shouldn't farm them?
[02:21] <+Odin> its not, it would be changed for the entire server....it only menas a few are at that level right now....eventually more will get there and it will effect them as well

[02:21] * ~adminHere at my last statement 'admin catching up' ... almost there.
[02:21] <+Aiz> perhaps people shouldnt get their panties in a bunch
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[02:21] <+DixilandPimp> To each their own some have a nasty way of playnig I noticed
[02:21] <+RobeSGW> might be good if players stopped spamming so much
[02:22] <+DixilandPimp> And how is relevancy decided ?
[02:22] <+Aiz> might be good if people stopped trolling the admin meets aswell
[02:23] <+Odin> Aiz what do you mean by trolling? these meets are here for everyone to be here to chat with admin and hear what others have to say.
[02:23] <~adminHere> aiz - i think i should add defcon/realm alert level "panties in a bunch" -- right after higherester
[02:23] <+Odin> LMAO
01[02:23] <+Tekki> ROFL
[02:23] <+Odin> LOVES IT!
[02:23] <+DixilandPimp> =>
[02:23] <+RobeSGW> PUB for short
[02:23] <+annoyed> lol
[02:23] <+Aiz> i could use the income drop
[02:23] <~adminHere> as much as i love my suffix adjectives?adverbs?
[02:23] <+RobeSGW> near really got highester anyway
[02:24] <~adminHere>
[02:24] <+SlayerS_fith> mayb nox/critical could effect up
[02:24] <+SlayerS_fith> hgiher it gets th emore it effects your up
[02:24] <+annoyed> you should give all alert levels a funny name like that
[02:24] <+SlayerS_fith> (soprry kinda doing the throw random ideas out) thing again
[02:24] <~adminHere> no action on officers as of yet regards plague. but i will think on it. i agree its a small effect even if i do something.
[02:24] <+DixilandPimp> Admin, another question, I heard someone approached you for a new advertising campaing, any news on that ? I read something about only a handful external game index sites linking in to gatewars
[02:24] <+RobeSGW> it affects a small number of players over the plague yes
[02:25] <~adminHere> dixiland - i had 'stargatewars.com' on many. 'gatewars.com' not as many.
[02:25] <+DixilandPimp> why not update then ?
[02:25] <+RobeSGW> suggested by a member over the plague so worth a look and maybe more discussion in forums
[02:25] <+annoyed> look at some of the growth in beta admin
[02:25] <~adminHere> i do not object to being added to any game index sites...(not doing 'voting' sites though)
[02:25] <+SlayerS_fith> admin. have you thought of maknig Gatewars a Facebook app?
[02:25] <+DixilandPimp> when players cant find it, no new (many) members, less income for you
[02:25] <~adminHere> it is just time to manually go to the 100? sites, and update
[02:26] <~adminHere> fith-- no not like facebook
[02:26] <+DixilandPimp> haha, pay someone in naq, I bet many would crawl the net doing it
[02:26] <~adminHere> they even recently changted how they work so their own programming language you had ot use will no longer work
[02:26] <+RobeSGW> Might be worth checking the armies in main and beta to judge the affects of recent changes
[02:26] <~adminHere> makes me not want to bnak too much on them
[02:26] <+DixilandPimp> lol
[02:26] <~adminHere> but i guess i am not 100% against it... just maybe 95%
[02:26] <+SlayerS_fith> it could be great fo rthe game
[02:26] <+DixilandPimp> it would yes
[02:26] <+SlayerS_fith> fb has so many members it could quickly boost new numbers
[02:26] <+RobeSGW> Thanks for looking at the old skool house Jason
[02:27] <+RobeSGW> I know these houses require a lot of work
[02:27] <~adminHere> np robe. i do like the houses
06[02:27] * +Zeratul dislike the concept of this facebook.
[02:27] <+DixilandPimp> but seeing as you would profit from more new players, especially with a strong modern new layout, it would pay itself back the work invested
[02:27] <~adminHere> more houses = less individual effect too
[02:27] <+DixilandPimp> zera you dont play
[02:27] <+Zeratul> true
[02:27] <+DixilandPimp> shht then
[02:27] <+DixilandPimp>
[02:27] <~adminHere> and re: fb... i will consider. maybe i can add a 'use facebook login' or somehitn to register/play
[02:27] <+RobeSGW> Also I think if players suggest something for the first time in these meetings
[02:27] <~adminHere> and just iframe it on fb itself
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[02:28] <+RobeSGW> you should ask them for the link where it has been discussed in forums
[02:28] <~adminHere> ok quick PM round ....
[02:28] <+RobeSGW> So everyone has had a chance to place their opion before you review and make changes
[02:28] <+SlayerS_fith> ive got to write down my new idea's
[02:28] <+SlayerS_fith> im all for rebuilding the game
[02:28] <+SlayerS_fith> and i seriously think
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[02:28] <+SlayerS_fith> a FB app would effectily create a whole new stream of members
[02:29] <+napster> hey tekki
[02:29] <+RobeSGW> stop the adhoc ill conceived changes
[02:29] <+napster> and hi all
[02:29] <+DixilandPimp> hell yeah
01[02:29] <+Tekki> 09:27 XXX God Quest Success 2,147,483,647 details <- fix ascension so you can send in more units - please?
[02:29] <+RobeSGW> Good point Tekki
[02:29] <+RobeSGW> Thats very important
[02:29] <+Meatman> hey all
[02:29] <+Rodwolf> you can send in more then 2.1 bil?
[02:29] <+Rodwolf> cant*
[02:29] <+napster> hm... i've never failed a god quest despite that... so why is it importent?
[02:29] <+napster> you type more rod but it only sends this many..
[02:30] <+Rodwolf> ah never noticed that
[02:30] <+Rodwolf> guess also becais it never failed before
[02:30] <+RobeSGW> yeah seems to be a glytch
[02:30] <+Rodwolf> when you are repelled you would notice
[02:30] <+RobeSGW> indeed
01[02:30] <+Tekki> maybe you really are sending in more units, becuase I tried that with 9billion trained and sent in
01[02:30] <+Tekki> but it reports that you only sent in 2.1billion
[02:31] <+Mathlord> shh
[02:31] <+Mathlord> glare
01[02:31] <+Tekki> so if it's a proper glitch that means that there is a theoretical limit that you could train up and not be able to be Destroy Militaried for example
[02:31] <+Odin> mathlord what are u on about
[02:33] <+Meatman> oh yeah admin
[02:33] <+Meatman> Number of Ascended Resurrections Saved 0
[02:34] <+Meatman> what purpose does that serve?
01[02:34] <+Tekki> lol no one ever knows what that is meant to be for!
[02:34] <+RobeSGW> but it sounds sexy
[02:34] <+Meatman> hence why im asking
[02:34] <+DixilandPimp> cos noone succeeded, *evil laugh* seriously though, same here, no idea what its for
[02:34] <+Meatman> im getting back into ascended server
[02:35] <+Mathlord> you've been descended right meatman?
[02:35] <+Meatman> once
[02:35] <+Meatman> never again
[02:35] <+Mathlord> yeah then never mind
[02:35] <+Mathlord> we used to think it meant number of times descended
[02:36] <+SlayerS_fith> nah
[02:36] <+SlayerS_fith> should mean
[02:36] <+SlayerS_fith> if your 1 hit form descention
[02:36] <+SlayerS_fith> oand you save yourself
[02:36] <+SlayerS_fith> get points
[02:36] <+SlayerS_fith> but
06[02:36] * +DixilandPimp goes eating lasagne and will be back in 20
[02:36] <+Meatman> i've done that too
[02:36] <+SlayerS_fith> dosnt really do anything rofl
01[02:36] <+Tekki> oh god no Slayer
01[02:37] <+Tekki> if you did that - and you got points to save yourself from being descnded by descending someone else
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01[02:37] <+Tekki> all the little nooblets would be constantly descended
[02:37] <+RobeSGW> again a good question for FAQ in forums maybe
01[02:37] <+Tekki> we need to protect the little nooblets - ... sometimes
[02:37] <+Rodwolf> well you still can do a similar trick tekki if your on
[02:37] <+Rodwolf> keep hitting others if they are trying to descend you
[02:38] <+Rodwolf> other smaller ones that is
01[02:38] <+Tekki> I know but if it worked as a way to save yourself then people would target teh small accounts to build up salvation points
01[02:38] <+Tekki> and i don't think we want that
[02:39] <+Norbe> slayer didn't say anything about hitting people to save yourself
[02:40] <+Norbe> it was just his assumption of what it meant
[02:40] <+Haz> oh Tekkis here... pm?
01[02:40] <+Tekki> hmm?
[02:41] <+RobeSGW> Night guys
[02:41] <+Meatman> nn
[02:41] <+napster> bye robe
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[02:43] <@Greebo> buttmonkeys dont have lawnmowers
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[02:43] <+napster> hey there catman
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06[02:44] * +Tekki wonders if AdminJ is still here/
06[02:44] * +Zeratul believe he is. When he is gone, he becomes adminGone
[02:44] <+Zeratul> he is probably reading PMs
[02:44] <+napster> [20:44] adminHere idle 10, signed on Fri May 13 19:33:42 2011
[02:44] <~adminHere> yes PMs
[02:44] <+napster> must be
[02:44] <+Zeratul> everyone loves to PM him
[02:45] <+napster> why are people scared of suggesting some things in the open and not in the private? or personal matters?
[02:46] <+Meatman> probably just moaning about Feri's def
[02:46] <+Aiz> most likely
[02:46] <+SlayerS_fith> was clearing up a posible multi
[02:47] <+SlayerS_fith> BRB mad hungzors
[02:47] <~adminHere> ok - ... back
[02:47] <~adminHere> and gonna call it a meeting
[02:47] <+Meatman> Number of Ascended Resurrections Saved 0
[02:47] <+Meatman> what purpose does that serve?
[02:48] <+napster> that's classfied meatyone..
[02:48] <+Meatman> bah
[02:48] <+napster> you don't have the proper clearence
[02:48] <~adminHere> meatman - i am of the opinoin that every good game needs a button, or a field, that nobody REALLY knows what it does.
[02:48] <+napster> including admin..
[02:48] <+napster> ?
[02:48] <~adminHere> yer just lukcky i did not make it a button
[02:48] <+Meatman> ha
[02:48] <+SlayerS_fith> HEARD IT HERE FIRST FOLKS
[02:48] <+SlayerS_fith> ITS A MYTERY
[02:48] <+SlayerS_fith> frist 1 figures it out
[02:48] <~adminHere>
[02:48] <+SlayerS_fith> gets 1 quad naq
[02:49] <+Rodwolf> how can we figure it out if we cant click it?:p
[02:49] <+Meatman> only 1 quad?
[02:49] <+Meatman> "only"
[02:49] <+SlayerS_fith> @rod
[02:49] <~adminHere> ok - thanks all. another good meet
[02:49] <+SlayerS_fith> thats th ebeauty in it
[02:49] <+SlayerS_fith> :p
[02:49] <+Meatman> bye admin
[02:49] <~adminHere> till the PM (myPM)
[02:49] <+Rodwolf> bye
[02:49] <+SlayerS_fith> cya mate
[02:49] <~adminHere> thanks again. i really appreciate the time and thought brought here...
[02:49] <+napster> good bye J
[02:49] <+DeathIncarnator> admin btw thanks for what you did last week ref alliance bank
[02:50] <+SlayerS_fith> rod see me on msn
01[02:50] <+Tekki> have a great day Admin
[02:50] <+SlayerS_fith> ?
[02:50] <~adminHere> cheers. np DI. (whatever it was )
[02:50] <+Rodwolf> sure
[02:50] <+DeathIncarnator> i missed saying that
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[Tekki]

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[08:33] <~adminHere> phew
[08:33] <+Meatman> hey admin
[08:33] <+Universe> Oh hi, nice cute sheep.
01[08:33] <+Tekki> hey Admin
[08:33] <~adminHere> lotsa running
01[08:33] <+Tekki> lol indeed
01[08:33] <+Tekki> I'm surprised
[08:33] <+Meatman> oh hi tekki
[08:33] <+Universe> Running here and there.
[08:33] <+Meatman> you get much sleep?
01[08:33] <+Tekki> you should be in the olympics
01[08:34] <+Tekki> I got plnety of sleep meatman, TAF's concern for me is touching
[08:34] <+Universe> That'd be a first, a Canadian olympian marathon runner..
[08:34] <+Meatman> we just dont want you to lose sleep over a game
01[08:35] <+Tekki> Meatman, why don't we just leave it
01[08:35] <+Tekki> between DI n ow saying I exploited a bug your esteem is going down
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[08:35] <+Universe> So Admin.. had a good day running around?
[08:36] <+Universe> (Hi Ra!)
[08:36] <+Amec> kk adminHere, we had some nice ideas before. Pretty sure we all want you to remove strike, covert, motherships and income.
[08:36] <+Meatman> not a big ask really
[08:37] <+Earendil> Nono, Amec, not income
[08:37] <+Earendil> but Defences should be done away with as well though
[08:37] <+bmmj13> and EPA would like 1 complimetary super account
[08:37] <~adminHere> what you got gainst canadian runners universe ?
[08:37] <~adminHere> on that note anyone see south park yesterday?
[08:38] <+SuperSaiyan> so long as they aren't eating that so called bacon, I have no problems with our neighbors up north xD
[08:38] <~adminHere> lol amic
06[08:38] * +Zeratul greet adminHere again
[08:38] <~adminHere> consider it done
[08:38] <+Flugmeisters> 02don't spoil it unless it was a repeat
[08:38] <+Earendil> Canadians can't run, they only skate
[08:38] <~adminHere> lol...socalled
[08:38] <+Earendil> Canadian bacon ftw
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[08:38] <+Universe> *grin* Canadian runners rock. I just don't know many.
[08:39] <~adminHere> it was new fluge
[08:39] <+Universe> Like. None.
[08:39] <+SuperSaiyan> no eary, not ftw *glares*
[08:39] <~adminHere> all about canadians
[08:39] <+Meatman> oh hey SuperSaiyan
[08:39] <~adminHere> and our 'royal traditions'
[08:39] <+Meatman> you got in here ok then?
[08:39] <+sol> hey admin
01[08:39] <+Tekki> Admin did you look at the numbers in ascension?
[08:39] <+SuperSaiyan> indeed meatman ^_^
[08:39] <~adminHere> tek - specifically?
[08:39] <~adminHere> the 2.147bil ? fixed...
[08:39] <+Universe> Awesome.
[08:39] <+Meatman> cool
[08:39] <+sol> int to double?
[08:40] <+Universe> LONG INT. -_-
[08:40] <~adminHere> decimal - 54,0
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[08:40] <+sol> double > long
[08:40] <~adminHere> why they let a decimal with no decimal not sure, but it works best
[08:40] <+Meatman> lol decimal, send 14.5 guys
[08:40] <+sol> mk anyway
01[08:40] <+Tekki> Ah thank you admin, that was what I meant
[08:40] <+sol> did you add a multiplier admin for powerups?
06[08:41] * +Zeratul think it would be interesting if the 67 first people in the british line of succession died without heirs... considering that #68 is a reigning monarch...
[08:41] <+Flugmeisters> 02nah they'd back track or whatever 
[08:42] <+sol> i think i dont care zeratul
[08:43] <+sol> also admin are you going to do anything with the command star?
[08:43] <&Paul> ZOMG
[08:44] <&Paul> tehre is ninja in our midest
[08:44] <+Flugmeisters> 02yeah i wanna see it impload and wipe both attacker and defender out
[08:44] <+Flugmeisters> 02maybe deascend both 
[08:44] <~adminHere> sol not yet
[08:44] <~adminHere> thats harder
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[08:44] <+sol> what the command star or making some simple loops?
[08:44] <~adminHere> <ie takes more time, and likely causes at least one bug i frantically fix because i did teh update live instead of in beta, and kick myself for that...>
[08:45] <+sol> is beta ascended open for us?
[08:45] <~adminHere> loops harder
[08:45] <+Flugmeisters> just employ SoL to do things to beta then
[08:45] <+Meatman> lol, sol... if it was simple loops it would be done by now
[08:45] <~adminHere> as a single zero makes everything free
[08:45] <~adminHere> command star not so harder
[08:45] <~adminHere> just ensuring its fair back and forward in time
[08:46] <+Meatman> give it a x10 multiplier? so it actually affects stuff?
[08:46] <~adminHere> and yes they're not simple..
[08:46] <~adminHere> something like that meat yes
01[08:46] <+Tekki> command star? LOL
01[08:46] <+Tekki> it's like the self ascended saves
01[08:46] <+Tekki> not really sure what to do with it
[08:46] <+sol> ya
[08:46] <+sol> xD
[08:46] <+bmmj13> i thought it was already boosted to be somewhat practical?
[08:46] <~adminHere> it was before... i need a raising multiplier
01[08:47] <+Tekki> I thought it was BMMJ but it probably isn't now - again
[08:47] <~adminHere> ok - my left nav flashing red with PM... sec
[08:47] <+sol> it was boosted but still hardly practicall
[08:47] <+bmmj13> mines 7 quad
[08:47] <+bmmj13> and mines a small one
[08:47] <+bmmj13> and not repaired >.>
[08:47] <+bmmj13> how big does it need to be?
[08:47] <+sol> yeah mine says 68 quad
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[08:47] <+sol> but it hardly adds a few quad to the attack or defence
[08:48] <+Meatman> hey DI
[08:48] <+sol> i dont know what happened there
[08:48] <+DeathIncarnator> hello all
[08:48] <+bmmj13> and im pretty sure when i was hitting someone, it was adding the attack ammount to my attack/defense
[08:48] <+DeathIncarnator> is admin here?
[08:48] <+Meatman> yup
[08:48] <+sol> not for mez0r
[08:48] <+sol> and yeah
[08:48] <+bmmj13> stepped out for a minute
[08:48] <+bmmj13> for a pm
[08:48] <+bmmj13> maybe that's a bug with your account then and not command star in general?
[08:49] <+Earendil> he's around
[08:49] <+DeathIncarnator> ok nudge me on msn please when hes back
[08:49] <+bmmj13> will do
[08:49] <+sol> @bmm i dont think so
[08:49] <+sol> im pretty sure it happens with all people
[08:49] <+sol> the command star on summary != what happens in battle
[08:49] <+bmmj13> i know for a fact mine helped in the past, unless it changed again
01[08:50] <+Tekki> if DI gets what he wants I want my stuff back :d
[08:50] <+bmmj13> ahh
[08:50] <+sol> well mine did help
[08:50] <+Lebanite> huh.... not sure when the last time was that I made it to ad admin meet
[08:50] <+sol> but it was extremely insignificant
[08:51] <+bmmj13> let me check real quick
[08:51] <+sol> i shall as well
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[08:52] <+Flugmeisters> does CS do anything to your ranks ? or was it taken out?
[08:52] <+sol> infuses 2,538,859,161,140,000 additional attack
[08:52] <+bmmj13> believe it's still rank
[08:52] <+sol> thats from a 68 q total on realm page
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[08:52] <+bmmj13> is that half your strike?
[08:53] <+sol> CS is ranked
[08:53] <+Flugmeisters> so if i build it i'll go up ranks
[08:53] <~adminHere> ok less red flash at me
[08:53] <+sol> but it doesnt contribute to your overall rank
[08:53] <+sol> so no
[08:53] <+sol> its a bit like ME
[08:53] <+Meatman> CS is ranked, pretty sure it doesnt up overall rank
[08:53] <+Meatman> ninja'd
[08:54] <+DeathIncarnator> admin had a problem with the last alliance ppt ....it didnt apply
01[08:54] <+Tekki> and if he gets his stuff back
01[08:54] <+Tekki> I want mine all back too
[08:54] <+DeathIncarnator> and we had a problem
[08:54] <+DeathIncarnator> as Telli massed
[08:54] <+DeathIncarnator> Tekki wrecked norbes account
01[08:55] <+Tekki> we are at war
[08:55] <+DeathIncarnator> which we were trying to save
[08:55] <+Flugmeisters> where you in the alliance for more thn 5 days?
01[08:55] <+Tekki> yes he was
[08:55] <+DeathIncarnator> of course
[08:55] <+Flugmeisters> strange
[08:55] <+sol> @bmm it doesnt say but using the ratio from the CS screen, about 33 q
[08:55] <+bmmj13> 1 out of 3 ppts i believe didnt work?
[08:55] <+bmmj13> mine only does Squirrel uses its Black Hole String to inflict 342,461,224,282,920 damage, destroying 0 Enegry Vortex Shields on Laeveteinn!
[08:55] <~adminHere> i am here deathincarnaotr
[08:56] <+bmmj13> yes from main screen it should be like 4-5 quad
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[08:56] <+DeathIncarnator> alliance ppt naq was taken and it said alliance PPT was given
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[08:56] <+sol> @bmm ya thought so
01[08:56] <+Tekki> hey ETL
[08:56] <+EtL> hey
[08:56] <+bmmj13> so it appears the cs modifier is only in rank, not battle
[08:56] <+DeathIncarnator> but PPT was not applied
[08:56] <+Flugmeisters> long time no see
[08:56] <+sol> From the realm page though, going by those numbers is ridiculously high, if admin made a mistake somewhere
[08:57] <~adminHere> me, a mistake?
[08:57] <~adminHere> never
[08:57] <~adminHere> and deathInc -- give me allinace ID and ID of one it 'did not work on'
[08:58] <~adminHere> and when this happened. i will at least see what went on
[08:58] <+DeathIncarnator> Is there anything yiucan do to restore the resources please
[08:58] <+DeathIncarnator> ok
[08:58] <~adminHere> not without looking to see what happened
[08:58] <+DeathIncarnator> need to login
[08:58] <+DeathIncarnator> gimme a min please
01[08:58] <+Tekki> you could ask me
01[08:58] <+Tekki> Admin though if it didn't work
[08:58] <+sol> Well admin, command start in realm page is different to whats used in battle, one in battle is still insignificant, and the one on the realm page is too high imo
01[08:58] <+Tekki> I want my resources back too please
01[08:58] <+Tekki>
01[08:58] <+Tekki> those I lost massing and doing other things to him
[08:58] <+sol> star*
[08:59] <~adminHere> sol - i will check that.
[08:59] <~adminHere> its possible i guess
[08:59] <~adminHere> that the 2 are not 'equalized'
[08:59] <+sol> ya
01[08:59] <+Tekki> oh nice catch Sol
[08:59] <+sol> im just saying though, DONT use the realm page one as a yardstick
[09:00] <+bmmj13> one number says 22.7 tril
[09:00] <+bmmj13> other says 342.4 tril
[09:00] <+sol> quite sure people dont want me to get a 33 quad + on my attack xD
[09:00] <+bmmj13> and the last one says 4.5 quad
[09:00] <+sol> they are all different
[09:00] <+sol> from the realm page, to battle to command star upgrade
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[09:00] <+bmmj13> a realistic number seemst o be like 5x what's on the command star page
[09:01] <+sol> probably should right out a list of bugs for admin on ascended lol
[09:01] <+bmmj13> theres multiple topics on forum with them all documented
[09:01] <+bmmj13> i believe
[09:01] <+bmmj13> well
[09:01] <+bmmj13> some bugs, some changes
[09:01] <+sol> 500 trill?
[09:01] <+sol> that would still be pointless
[09:01] <+bmmj13> oops
[09:01] <+bmmj13> not 5x
[09:01] <+sol> 50?
[09:01] <+DeathIncarnator> looks like ~Thor stole all TAAE naq when we unexpectedly were without ppt
[09:02] <+DeathIncarnator> admin you want taae allinace id yes ?
[09:02] <&Paul> wait
[09:02] <&Paul> how did he steal it
[09:02] <&Paul> did he attack?
[09:02] <&Paul> thats fair.
[09:02] <+sol> i think between 50x -100x would be a good go
01[09:02] <+Tekki> and I massed
[09:02] <+Meatman> alliance ppt should have been on, Paul
[09:02] <+bmmj13> 50x seems good
[09:02] <+Meatman> it didnt
[09:02] <+sol> so me at rank 8 would be 5-10 q
[09:02] <+bmmj13> 100x might be a bit too much
[09:03] <+sol> maybe
[09:03] <+bmmj13> oh
[09:03] <+sol> probably
[09:03] <+bmmj13> maybe 100x
[09:03] <+bmmj13> if you are rank 8
[09:03] <+Lebanite> did you check to make sure the PPT was set or did you just click the button and go on
[09:03] <+Flugmeisters> Paul the problem is other than 2 diffenent topics going on right now is that they should have been on alliance ppt but it didn't work for them

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[09:03] <~adminHere> bmmj13 - thats just rounding: <+bmmj13> one number says 22.7 tril
[09:03] <~adminHere> <+bmmj13> other says 342.4 tril
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[09:04] <~adminHere> DI - yes, pm me the alliance ID, and the ID of those you thought should have but did not get PPT
[09:04] <~adminHere> and when it happened
01[09:04] <+Tekki> Admin here if you do restore that stuff
01[09:04] <+Tekki> I would like my ersources back too please
[09:05] <+DeathIncarnator> allianceMembers.php?id=17199">TAAE</a><br />
[09:05] <+bmmj13> rounding is 17x higher? >_>
[09:05] <+sol> was about to say lol
[09:05] <+sol> good rounding you have there admin
[09:05] <+DeathIncarnator> admin you need all the ids of TAAE members?
[09:05] <+bmmj13> would be interesting to remove the modifier that existed before, and just make the natural slot for a command star 100x higher
[09:06] <+DeathIncarnator> Norbes id=21276
[09:06] <~adminHere> tek -don't get ahead of yourself
01[09:06] <+Tekki> lol it's jsut an if
[09:06] <+DeathIncarnator> oh and btw he dropped out of Alliance after strumph said he was being massed
[09:06] <~adminHere> bmmj- thats how my math rolls: "<+bmmj13> rounding is 17x higher? >_>"
01[09:07] <+Tekki> he was in the allaince the ENTIRE time I was massing him DI
[09:07] <+bmmj13> i think my UP needs to be rounded
01[09:07] <+Tekki> up to and until he was phased
[09:07] <+DeathIncarnator> yes
[09:07] <~adminHere> lol: <+bmmj13> i think my UP needs to be rounded
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[09:07] <+napster> and my income need to be rounded
[09:08] <~adminHere> so the 2 items in question are: id=17199 TAAE and : Norbes id=21276
[09:08] <+DeathIncarnator> not sure about timings and phased
[09:08] <+DeathIncarnator> Norbert DeathIncarnator Norbert has quit the TAAE alliance 14:21
[09:08] <~adminHere> dI --when did this all go down?
[09:08] <+napster> within last couple hours
01[09:09] <+Tekki> 1421 ingame time today
01[09:09] <+Tekki> starting at 1412
[09:09] <+DeathIncarnator> GameTime: May13 - 14:05.23 All alliance members, over 5 days in the alliance, have been given an (additional) 3 Hour(s) of Protection, up to a game maximum of 48 Hours, at a cost of 68,653,721,461 from the alliance bank. You have used 4 of a max of 4 weekly hours of alliance PPT. Alliance PPT failed but was set
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[09:10] <+EtL> nhn
[09:10] <+DeathIncarnator> Admin I have screenshots
[09:11] <+DeathIncarnator> from before turn change and after
[09:11] <+DeathIncarnator> shows clearly alliance naq
[09:11] <+Universe> Heh. If it weren't irrelevant, I'd wonder why you'd take those.
[09:12] <+DeathIncarnator> just seems to have got lost in the ether
[09:12] <&Paul> how do u know to take screenshots...
[09:12] <&Paul> really
[09:12] <+DeathIncarnator> and Universe dont be so insulting
[09:12] <+DeathIncarnator> its the ONLY proof I have
[09:12] <+DeathIncarnator> and admin can check and verify
[09:12] <+Universe> Insulting? :s What did I do now?
[09:12] <&Paul> screenshots verify nothing....
[09:13] <+napster> fell asleep...
[09:13] <+DeathIncarnator> admin can see all
01[09:13] <+Tekki> screenshoots are what DI has, but adin can still check the game as well
[09:13] <+DeathIncarnator> thanks Tekki
[09:14] <+bmmj13> and see what it shows and see if there's anything he sees that don't look right that he should check
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[09:14] <+napster> what's wrong with rhett's connection.
[09:14] <+DeathIncarnator> are delta and Pi still sabbing Norbe?
[09:15] <+DeathIncarnator> My phased went awol
01[09:15] <+Tekki> probably but he's phased
[09:15] <+DeathIncarnator> phaser went awol
[09:15] <&Paul> thats dirty
[09:15] <+DeathIncarnator> and didnt hit
[09:15] <&Paul> attackin ur own palyers to keep phased
[09:15] <+EtL> bah pathetic connection
[09:15] <&Paul> play the game attack the enemy
[09:15] <+EtL> has admin left?
[09:15] <+napster> hopefully not
[09:15] <+Flugmeisters> sorting the Norbe problem out i would think
[09:16] <+DeathIncarnator> no he`ll be running some SQL queries
[09:16] <+DeathIncarnator> on the DB
[09:16] <+Flugmeisters> that he will
[09:16] <+Flugmeisters> or he's just walked out and not going to come back and say that what he was doing
[09:16] <+napster> select DB delete DB e darn i don't remember SQL anymore.... but hell i don't need it so..
[09:17] <+bmmj13> drop tables
[09:17] <+bmmj13> i accidently the game
[09:17] <~adminHere> DI - how close to a turn change did you do the alliance ppt?
01[09:18] <+Tekki> about 23 seconds
06[09:18] * +Zeratul believe adminHere might also be reading PMs at times. People love to PM him here
[09:18] <+bmmj13> <DeathIncarnator> GameTime: May13 - 14:05.23 All alliance members, over 5 days in the alliance, have been given an (additional) 3 Hour(s) of Protection, up to a game maximum of 48 Hours, at a cost of 68,653,721,461 from the alliance bank. You have used 4 of a max of 4 weekly hours of alliance PPT. Alliance PPT failed but was set
[09:18] <+bmmj13> it looks likie ^
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[09:19] <&Paul> Alliance PPT failed but was set <<< it failled...
[09:19] <+DeathIncarnator> Admin just after tc
[09:19] <~adminHere> sorry pm again
[09:19] <~adminHere> ok DI - stillc hecking.
[09:19] <~adminHere> will take bit more time
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[09:19] <+DeathIncarnator> sorry for the work
[09:19] <+DeathIncarnator> like being a detective... on a DB
[09:20] <+napster> tekki whom are you vendetting?
[09:20] <~adminHere> what *may* have happened DI si that the turn change removed his (to be expired) ppt, while alliance PPT added TIME to the count (but without actually un-expiring the ppt itself)
[09:20] <&Paul> ie cut it way to close/
[09:20] <&Paul> ???
01[09:20] <+Tekki> hmmm too close tot he turn :d should have let the lag go away
01[09:20] <+Tekki> after all
[09:20] <~adminHere> so he had time added to an existing ppt (it was existing before the turn engine removed it)
01[09:20] <+Tekki> Ididn't notice for another few mins
[09:21] <+DeathIncarnator> well you never know how long the lag is
[09:21] <~adminHere> while at the same time the turn engine removed the 'ppt on/off' flag
[09:21] <+DeathIncarnator> and
[09:21] <+bmmj13> so then it was a bug with the game?
[09:21] <+Universe> Haha.. try and reap optimum time from the PPT.. cutting it close doen't always work out.
[09:21] <~adminHere> not really....
[09:21] <~adminHere> its all in the order of things
[09:21] <~adminHere> bug is strong for this
[09:21] <+DeathIncarnator> we didnt notice till strumph666 sent a pm saying Tekki massin norbe
[09:21] <+bmmj13> a non intended feature >.>
[09:21] <~adminHere> its more like getting your foot caught in a closing elevator while trying to jump in last second
[09:21] <+Universe> It's a delay in the user-side connection..
[09:21] <&Paul> that would be epicly funny
[09:22] <~adminHere> i will check more though
[09:22] <&Paul> aw lost ur foot
[09:22] <+napster> not user-side tekki..
[09:22] <~adminHere> to ensure thats what happened
[09:22] <+Universe> Haha Paul.
[09:22] <+napster> sorry universe..
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[09:22] <+Zeratul> not ours
[09:22] <+napster> engine work on server side..
[09:22] <+napster> lol yours exactly..
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[09:23] <+napster> J needs better server...
[09:23] <+napster> i can sell you one for good price
[09:23] <&Paul> j servers been working fine
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[09:23] <+napster> UCS C Series 460, upto 4 CPU's
[09:23] <+napster> nice lady to complement
[09:23] <+bmmj13> so it can remove an expired ppt but doesn't check to make sure it wasn't readded recently?
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[09:23] <+DeathIncarnator> well admin I could have set all PPTS at same time but really as we are fighting to save a big stike and will have to phase him all untill he can vac we use PPt toadvantage
01[09:24] <+Tekki> which is why I pre-emptively asked that if he got his stuff back
01[09:24] <+Tekki> I would like mine back too
[09:24] <&Paul> so ur using the game
[09:24] <&Paul> to stop
[09:24] <&Paul> him from lsoing stats
[09:24] <&Paul> thats just wrong
06[09:24] * +Universe nods.
[09:24] <&Paul> get massed
[09:24] <+DeathIncarnator> And as proved by incoming logs Delta members were waiting
[09:24] <+Universe> Tekki should be refunded, IF Norbe is refunded.
[09:24] <+DeathIncarnator> of course
06[09:25] * +napster masses paul, since paul loves massing so much.
[09:25] <&Paul> i do
01[09:25] <+Tekki> yep DI agrees there
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01[09:25] <+Tekki> I don't know what I lost though lol
[09:25] <+Universe> Glad you agree, DI.
[09:25] <~adminHere> yup -- at 1305320713 you updated his ppt while at 1305320715 the cron took it away
[09:25] <+EtL> come on WORK!!!!!!!
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[09:25] <+Universe> wow!
[09:25] <+bmmj13> bad luck
[09:25] <&Paul> what what 2 milli seconds
[09:25] <&Paul> or 2 seocnds
[09:25] <~adminHere> secs paul
[09:25] <&Paul> ah
[09:25] <+Lebanite> wow
[09:25] <&Paul> not so epic
[09:25] <~adminHere> but it was working through a list of 'to be expired' ppt users
[09:25] <+DeathIncarnator> admin whats that mean in english
[09:25] <+Universe> Bad luck, indeed. 2 seconds is an eternity though..
[09:25] <+sol> cron is evil
[09:26] <~adminHere> lol
[09:26] <&Paul> it means
[09:26] <&Paul> that his ppt was on the axe list
[09:26] <&Paul> u updated it 2 seconeds
[09:26] <&Paul> before the axe dropped
[09:26] <~adminHere> its like getting a raise from HR at the same time as your boss fires you
[09:26] <&Paul> cant stop the axe mid swing
[09:26] <+Universe> Nice one.
[09:26] <+Meatman> lol
[09:26] <+napster> DI in english game generated list but before it went thru the list things changed, but it kept going thru old list..
[09:26] <+Lebanite> and so his PPT was 2 seconds long
[09:26] <~adminHere> more or less leb
[09:27] <&Paul> most expensive ppt ever then..
[09:27] <+DeathIncarnator> sowas this due to lag ?
[09:27] <+Lebanite> no doubt
[09:27] <+Meatman> oh that sucks
[09:27] <~adminHere> no not lag
[09:27] <+Meatman> poor norbe
[09:27] <+Universe> Not lag. Pageload on your side, DI.
[09:27] <&Paul> it was due to u not waitin for turn lag to end
[09:27] <+Universe> Bad clientside.
[09:27] <+Lebanite> Thats really sucky timing
[09:27] <+Universe> *grin*
[09:27] <+bmmj13> it told the game to drop ppt, then you added new ppt, but it dropped it then after goign through a list
[09:28] <~adminHere> let me see if this can be avoided di
[09:28] <+DeathIncarnator> thanks admin
[09:28] <~adminHere> aside from you not doing things 2seconds away from turn engine
[09:28] <+Flugmeisters> basically from what i see is the server works through lists so it works through ppt ending before adding ppt
[09:28] <~adminHere> leave it with me a coupel days
[09:28] <+Lebanite> lol
[09:28] <+bmmj13> well
[09:28] <+bmmj13> it looks like it added ppt instantly
[09:28] <+DeathIncarnator> I think I understand
[09:29] <+DeathIncarnator> ish
[09:29] <+EtL> ma ka chuth!!!!
[09:29] <+bmmj13> while dropping ppt was run through a list
[09:29] <+bmmj13> basically let the add go first, but then it was dropped
[09:29] <+Lebanite> so your new ppt got added to the list to be dropped
[09:29] <+Flugmeisters> yeah bmmj
[09:29] <+Lebanite> which sucks
[09:29] <&Paul> this is why alliance ppt should be removed,
[09:29] <~adminHere> more like a hitman goes out with a list of names of people who have not paid their bills
[09:29] <&Paul> wouldnt have this issue oitehrwise
[09:29] <~adminHere> then someone pays
[09:29] <~adminHere> but the hitman still only has a list of names
[09:29] <+bmmj13> or a repo man
[09:30] <+DeathIncarnator> well.....I preferred hourly PPts
[09:30] <+Meatman> as they get headshotted
[09:30] <+Lebanite> lol hitman... nice analogy
[09:30] <+napster> did not i explain it just like admin just did a bit above..
[09:30] <~adminHere> DI -hourly is a bigger issue
[09:30] <+bmmj13> taking someones car even though they just paid their bill online
[09:30] <~adminHere> exactly bmm
[09:30] <~adminHere> cuse repo not have online -just paper list
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[09:30] <+bmmj13> but then usually the car is returned to the owner :-p
[09:30] <~adminHere> lol
[09:30] <~adminHere> then use hitman example
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[09:30] <&Paul> jason destroyed the car
[09:30] <&Paul> no returning it
[09:30] <+Universe> Hitman works better.
[09:31] <~adminHere> ok as fun as this is - i must run
[09:31] <~adminHere> i am late late late!
[09:31] <+napster> J is almighty so he can reasssemble the car with he's thoughts(or codes)
[09:31] <~adminHere> lol
[09:31] <+napster> bye admin.
01[09:31] <+Tekki> have a great weekend Admin
01[09:31] <+Tekki> be well
[09:31] <~adminHere> thanks all!
[09:31] <+bmmj13> bye
[09:31] <~adminHere> and good weekend too
[09:31] <~adminHere> no bad luck
[09:31] <+DeathIncarnator> so do u need anything else from me admin?
01[09:31] <+Tekki> it's saturday here
03[09:31] * adminHere is now known as adminChasingTheWhiteRabbit
[09:31] <+SuperSaiyan> bye admin
01[09:31] <+Tekki> so survived teh day okay!
01[09:31] <+Tekki> :d
[09:31] <+Universe> Have a good weekend!
[09:31] <~adminChasingTheWhiteRabbit> am good DI
[09:31] <+Universe> Neo.
[09:31] <+Meatman> bye admin
01[09:31] <+Tekki> EAT THE WHITE RABIT!
[09:32] <+SuperSaiyan> oh no, he's gone elmer fudd style
[09:32] <+Universe> Admin = Architect.
06[09:32] * ~adminChasingTheWhiteRabbit grins
[09:32] <+DeathIncarnator> thanks admin ..be safe
[09:32] <+EtL> damn pms are not working
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