Admin Meeting 03/06/2011

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Admin Meeting 03/06/2011

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(01:30:49am) (+Angelos) 2 mins
(01:30:52am) (+Haz) here we go
(01:30:53am) (+Haz) lol
(01:30:54am) (+KC_Guest24626) Oh that was lucky
(01:30:56am) (+Kjarkur) countdown ?
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(01:30:59am) (+adminHere) mornging
(01:31:00am) (&Paul) lol
(01:31:02am) (+KC_Guest24626) I was gonna send out a search party
(01:31:02am) (+Haz) welcome adminHere
(01:31:03am) (+Kjarkur) and he's here
(01:31:03am) (&Paul) perfect timing
(01:31:04am) (+Cyrus) lol
(01:31:05am) (+Feri) a minute late
(01:31:07am) • +DuckDodgers Greetz admin
(01:31:11am) (+Cyrus) welcome admin
(01:31:12am) (+adminHere) :)
(01:31:15am) (+Kjarkur) Good afternoon Admin
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(01:31:21am) (+Angelos) moin admin
(01:31:26am) (+Haz) lol
(01:31:28am) (+KC_Guest24626) He wanted to be like me (L)
(01:31:29am) (+caesar) Hey Jason, my favourite GW admin!
(01:31:37am) (+KC_Guest53017) so the 'new' item that i suspect will be on topic is the plague (again) ...although it only affects a small % of ppl
(01:31:38am) (+Cyrus) evening admin
(01:31:41am) (+KC_Guest53017) damn
(01:31:43am) (+Tekki) good morning Admin :)
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(01:31:56am) (+Haz) it'll release in a minute or two AdminHere1
(01:31:58am) (+RobeSGW) hey Tekki how cold is it in Melbourne :)
(01:32:01am) (+AdminHere1) sec and i will be me again
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(01:32:24am) (+Angelos) It's lovely and warm here :P
(01:32:27am) (+Feri) if you arent you than who are you
(01:32:29am) (+Angelos) 25 degrees
(01:32:29am) (&Paul) i took care of it for u sir
(01:32:32am) (+Kjarkur) so Australia is not warm atm so I cant accuse you guys of having our sun, it's windy and cold here atm
(01:32:34am) (+Kjarkur) I want the sun back !
(01:32:35am) (~AdminHere) hm yup someone did it for me :)
(01:32:39am) (+Angelos) and I'm dying from the sun
(01:32:42am) (+Haz) paul did :P
(01:32:45am) (+Ifrit) Morning J :)
(01:32:51am) (+Haz) and Kjarkur aussie is cold right now
(01:32:51am) (~AdminHere) and when i am not me, i am my alter ego, clark kent ;)
(01:32:52am) (&Paul) its my job
(01:32:52am) (+Angelos) I'm an Englishman....we're not meant to get the sun here!
(01:32:56am) (+Haz) or at least qld is lol
(01:32:56am) (+Cyrus) and here is humid and hot atmosphere
(01:33:02am) (+caesar) Jason, i saw your minimum bank size had a bug last weekend :P hoped you will leave it so :D
(01:33:03am) (+Ryuujin) lol :)
(01:33:12am) (+Cyrus) lol
(01:33:14am) (+Ifrit) lol C2
(01:33:18am) (+DuckDodgers) Me and clark kent go way back, dont tell lies !!! put on your glasses and I'll know for sure !!!
(01:33:26am) (+Cyrus) hey C2
(01:33:36am) (+Cyrus) MY first CO
(01:33:45am) (+caesar) me?
(01:33:49am) (+Cyrus) yep
(01:33:56am) (+Ifrit) are we doing another week of private meetings so we dont get flame threads? O_O
(01:33:57am) (+caesar) was you massed cuse me? :D
(01:34:14am) (+Angelos) probably knowing you C2
(01:34:31am) (+Cyrus) no i was mass due to another reason
(01:34:31am) (+Haz) AdminHere: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=182179
(01:34:31am) (~AdminHere) caesar -whats bug?
(01:34:38am) (+Ryuujin) lol c2 got alot of people massed :)
(01:34:49am) (+Cyrus) lol
(01:34:57am) (+Kjarkur) AdminHere there is also a block bug that I think I've found
(01:35:01am) (+JediTank) c2 got massed allot too (H)
(01:35:02am) (+caesar) you set the 1T minimum and i saw my bank was bigger after each turn... some 20T each turn i think. but next day back to normal :(
(01:35:15am) (+RobeSGW) I thought banks went up and down again
(01:35:17am) (+Kjarkur) I unblock all senders and it doesn't work
(01:35:25am) (+Cyrus) C2 probably remember with the name AISAR SAQIB
(01:35:26am) (+JediTank) yea same here
(01:35:27am) (+Tekki) yes KJ
(01:35:29am) (+RobeSGW) Did you post in bug section Kj
(01:35:31am) (+Ryuujin) yes i cant send messages to KJ
(01:35:32am) (+Tekki) admin was told that one a whiel back :)
(01:35:35am) (+Ryuujin) neither can calibretto
(01:35:43am) (+Kjarkur) I think I recall mentioning it before and not being only one
(01:35:48am) (+Kjarkur) can you have a look at it again?
(01:35:49am) (+RobeSGW) yeah long time issue
(01:35:52am) (+caesar) nobody can unblock senders those once blocked
(01:36:09am) (+JediTank) I blocked deni one day and she threw bombs at my house and couldnt unblock her
(01:36:12am) (+Ryuujin) i was able to in the past but kjar didnt even block me and im blocked
(01:36:17am) (+Haz) lol
(01:36:27am) (+Cyrus) LOL
(01:36:28am) (+Ifrit) yea actually Couzens has that issue too
(01:36:44am) (+Kjarkur) Me ID 11771 and ID 32115 for example need it fixed
(01:36:45am) (+Ifrit) admin if you could look into it, cause he cant talk to ~Thamuz
(01:36:48am) (+Tekki) actually while on the PM system - could we please get an outbox for Ascension?
(01:36:48am) (~AdminHere) ok gonna fix this 2ic bug
(01:37:01am) (+RobeSGW) what 2ic bug
(01:37:03am) (~AdminHere) woud really help if ppl gave their IDs or alliance IDs when they want something fixed :(
(01:37:15am) (~AdminHere) <+Haz> AdminHere: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=182179
(01:37:16am) (~AdminHere) <
(01:37:27am) (+Haz) lol
(01:37:37am) (+JediTank) :$
(01:37:41am) (+caesar) Jason, and other players here... what everyone thinks about buying USS units once over the plague? it is 32m USS units weekly... fair would be to convert those units to naq or ATs how player will choose. cuse theres a limit for black market trades but USS trades are free and a litle BUG i think
(01:37:59am) (+Haz) ill look for zoxis id
(01:38:03am) (+Kjarkur) AdminHere, did you ever have a look at the previous iC issue ? When a member is 2iC or 3iC and quits the alliance and joins another one, he still has the iC functions for the previous alliance
(01:38:18am) (~AdminHere) i think its same issue kj
(01:38:24am) (+Ifrit) Would prefer it to be ATs C2 so the player has to do work or sell them to get naq :P
(01:38:25am) (+RobeSGW) yeah it is
(01:38:31am) (+Ryuujin) yes i had this when joining Ascended generations , but it seems that you cana ccess but not do anythig
(01:38:31am) (+Kjarkur) Ok sorry didn't have a look
(01:38:32am) (+KC_Guest24626) So if the leaders leaves they still control the old alliance?
(01:38:34am) (+Kjarkur) that's a big issue
(01:38:41am) (+caesar) for $50 you have 16m units, naq, ATs, raw UP, bank size, merlins. a bit overpovered for those once over plague
(01:38:42am) (+JediTank) yes
(01:38:46am) (+Kjarkur) At least 2iC and 3iC yes
(01:38:58am) (~AdminHere) give me 3 mins to deal w/ this iC issue :)
(01:39:02am) (+Kjarkur) caesar, with the new plague update I doubt it's a big issue
(01:39:15am) (+Ryuujin) i would prefer that idea scrapped what so ever , if already teh up boost is remooved now remooving any chance of anyone growing without having a 15 mill UP? is pointless.
(01:39:21am) (+Kjarkur) I do think it's ok to get yourself from raid cap to plague
(01:39:23am) (+caesar) so separate but equal Kjarkur? :)
(01:39:47am) (+Cyrus) caesar not a good idea so
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(01:40:02am) (+caesar) player under plague gets same amount. player over plague as well. am not saying to cut UUs down, jut convert them to naq or ATs, or maybe more raw UP
(01:40:08am) (+Kjarkur) I think you need to find a good bonus instead of the 16 Mil UU's then Caesar more then naq worth of 16 mil UU
(01:40:18am) (+Kjarkur) chances are not many will buy the USS then - except well maybe for the merlins
(01:40:21am) (+Ryuujin) i mean for this recentoffer killing update someone would have to have 3000$ worth of UP to beat the plague at any decent rate
(01:40:21am) (+Ifrit) nah totally shouldnt get UU from anything but your own up at plague, that includes USS/SS purchase
(01:40:44am) (+Ryuujin) officer*
(01:40:48am) (+JediTank) I wont, the only reason I buy USS is for the UU when over the raid and trade cap
(01:40:48am) (+RobeSGW) I think most long term players by USS for merlins dont they
(01:40:50am) (+Tekki) the new plague update was reasonable IMO
(01:40:59am) (+Tekki) unless someone wants to explain why it's not rather than just saying it's not?
(01:41:01am) (+Feri) back to the omg people over plague are killing the game lets scrap it further!
(01:41:20am) (+Feri) wait theres only like 2
(01:41:23am) (+Ryuujin) excatly i was ascending and hit the plague limit multiple times thanks to USS and would not even play the game without this feature
(01:41:26am) (+Feri) still they are killing the game!
(01:41:27am) (+Ryuujin) its silly to get rid of it
(01:41:37am) (+Cyrus) why
(01:41:39am) (+JediTank) I think if we cut the UU off then cut everything else, including merlins, if a scale back is done, then scale it all back
(01:41:40am) (+caesar) i love USS, spent a lot of money for it :) but was never feeding my account over plague with USS units. never agreed with it and never passed some boards. am just saying ho i see it. and its just for discussion.
(01:41:45am) (+Tziki) Is there anyone here thats been having problems with alliance 2ic - 3ic bugs? Im unable to use alliance management, and neither is alliance leader. cant invite kick or anything -.-
(01:42:02am) (+Borek) well i was over the plague cap and i love the update
(01:42:05am) (+Tekki) um C2 isn't there a limit of 2 USS a week anyway?
(01:42:06am) (+RoKeT) I agree with Jedi, if you are to do a scale back you would have to cut everything equally
(01:42:07am) (&Paul) Tziki jason is looking at it now
(01:42:08am) (+JediTank) admin is working on it now
(01:42:11am) (+RobeSGW) Jason said he is looking at it Tziki
(01:42:12am) (+caesar) JT your twisting all facts now.
(01:42:16am) (+Feri) with mercs you were borek with an account you just bought :P
(01:42:18am) (+Tziki) ahh great
(01:42:20am) (+Kjarkur) Tziki I discovered it with JT in DDE - and then me and Ryu saw it again in AG and PoA
(01:42:32am) (+Kjarkur) let's wait until Admin gets back to us on that
(01:42:34am) (+Tekki) Feri, the previous owner of the account thought it was a good update too
(01:42:40am) (+DuckDodgers) Admin meet suggestion: Have an Agenda for points to be adressed (apart from extras issues brought up) and have these discussed on forum before an actual meet. :)
(01:42:54am) (&Paul) DuckDodgers probly aint goin to happen
(01:42:59am) (+RobeSGW) Thats what for Admin Forum is for Duck
(01:43:00am) (+JediTank) if a person has so many merlins that there planets can never be exposed, whats the difference in buyig uu over the plague or cap?
(01:43:03am) (+Tziki) yea, i gave 3ic to a member, he left to be 2ic of training alliance, then came back to be 2ic, because the training alliance 2ic wouldnt work, so to force it i gave him leader, and now no one can access -.-
(01:43:08am) (+Ryuujin) and what was the meaning of the plague update robe and tekki?
(01:43:19am) (&Paul) to make Feri massable?
(01:43:23am) (+Kjarkur) I agree JT - if UU's get scaled down after plague for USS the merlins should too
(01:43:26am) (+Ryuujin) why limit a players growth ? your killing the game by limiting what people can do...
(01:43:30am) (+Cyrus) lol
(01:43:36am) (+caesar) if a player has enough money to buy unlimited fleets to mass any kind of planet defence or platform, whats the point of even building planets
(01:43:37am) (+Kjarkur) why should planets be forever untouchable if defenses can not be ?
(01:43:37am) (+Cyrus) feri cant be massed
(01:43:38am) (+Ifrit) cash spenders already have to much an advantage, if you want to grow at plague use your own UP, not USS's, officers, ect. Its already unfair a non-cash player can only buy 10k ATs while a cash spender can buy WAY WAY more. Highest I saw was 300k
(01:43:43am) (+Ifrit) I asked for it too Ryu
(01:43:46am) (+JediTank) and duck thats what the galactic council was set up for, but it got washed because somebody dont like it just because.......o something
(01:44:16am) (+Haz) advantage of being a cash spender Ifrit
(01:44:20am) (+JediTank) well this is a $$ spenders game now
(01:44:21am) (+Ryuujin) yeah well there are benifits for using $ , why would people not spending $ get more benifits
(01:44:22am) (+Borek) The game is about war, if someone can't be massed then things need to change Ryu
(01:44:24am) (+Haz) you see it in online games all the time
(01:44:26am) (+Ryuujin) i mean were helping the game stay alive
(01:44:29am) (+Feri) apparantly you shouldnt get anything for spending $$
(01:44:32am) (+Ryuujin) and helping the admin
(01:44:33am) (+Ifrit) cash spending should be limited so that non-cash spenders can still compete to a degree
(01:44:35am) (+Feri) should just get SS next to name
(01:44:48am) (+Feri) :P
(01:44:49am) (+Tekki) <+JediTank> well this is a $$ spenders game now <- should it be so entirely though?
(01:44:51am) (+KC_Guest24626) Well I thought spending dollars was just doing a charitable favour for Jason?
(01:44:58am) (+Ifrit) its a F2P game, that means cash spending should be limited enough to allow free 2 play players to compete
(01:44:59am) (+KC_Guest24626) Kinda like a tax deductable thing
(01:45:02am) (+Ifrit) on a equal ground
(01:45:05am) (+JediTank) it is what it is
(01:45:17am) (+Feri) why not just remove planets and fleets
(01:45:19am) (+Feri) even better idea
(01:45:21am) (+Borek) Think you'll find if no one wants to play the game because a bunch of cash spenders have untouchable accounts Feri your account will soon be worthless
(01:45:22am) (+JediTank) I know allot of people that post against the $$ spenders that spend ALLOT
(01:45:29am) (&Paul) why not remove all updates after raiding was introduced then.
(01:45:31am) (+caesar) i dont see problem in $$ spending. but if someone can simply buy 32m units weekly with naq, ATs, raw UP, bank increase and merlins... $100 is just small price for it. thats all what am saying
(01:45:49am) (+caesar) over plague i mean
(01:45:50am) (+Ryuujin) beli is competing at the highest level and he doesnt spend $ thus nullafys your point ifrit
(01:45:53am) (+Ifrit) I have no issue with you help admin support his game, I do when it unbalancing ;)
(01:45:54am) (+RoKeT) so why not cut out selling of resources completely not allowed by the game so only Jason can do it, and he can put a cap on it, then the border wouldn't be so large and Money spenders would still be able to buy?
(01:45:59am) (+Feri) doesnt make any difference if you are losing them ceaser
(01:46:01am) (+RobeSGW) surely acccounts are big enough already with some 100-200t def and 200-700t coverts
(01:46:22am) (&Paul) and 5 trillion Motherships..
(01:46:25am) (+RobeSGW) how big should game allow players to grow?
(01:46:30am) (&Paul) limitless.
(01:46:33am) (+Ryuujin) yes
(01:46:34am) (+Feri) and the big fleets
(01:46:35am) (&Paul) should forever grow
(01:46:35am) (+Kjarkur) but shouldn't players get to continue growing ?
(01:46:36am) (+Ryuujin) agreed
(01:46:37am) (+JediTank) yep
(01:46:38am) (+Kjarkur) why else play ?
(01:46:39am) (+caesar) another way how to build beast account is empire tax... which TAF did in past and will proly never repeat :P
(01:46:44am) (+Feri) like people that can mass 9-10T planet defs
(01:46:45am) (+Tekki) Ryuujin - Beli is NOT competing at the highest level
(01:46:47am) (+Feri) def unfair
(01:46:48am) (+Angelos) Cap it all till I get there :P
(01:46:49am) (+JediTank) and the planet defense, merlins, platforms
(01:46:50am) (+RobeSGW) and still be a viable game for new players?
(01:46:51am) (+Tekki) Not matter what he thinks
(01:46:51am) (+Feri) no noobs can keep a planet with that
(01:47:07am) (+Ryuujin) beli aniahlated 15x what he lost in ur war
(01:47:08am) (+Ifrit) yes this sounds like a fantastic way to retain new players O_O
(01:47:09am) (+Kjarkur) Tekki, despite that beli is who he is, he still has a decent MS and lvl 38
(01:47:11am) (+Ryuujin) so i see he is
(01:47:19am) (+Angelos) It's not a viable way to keep new players
(01:47:23am) (+Borek) the game is not about reaching specific stats, it's about the players having fun
(01:47:24am) (+Kjarkur) I can't believe I said a positive thing about Beli
(01:47:25am) (+Tekki) which was funded almost entrely by his alliance
(01:47:26am) (+RobeSGW) maybe we need two servers, one for Big spenders like you guys and one for the normal players ?
(01:47:27am) (+Kjarkur) that will NOT happen again
(01:47:27am) (+JediTank) this subject doesnt realy effect new players
(01:47:29am) (+Angelos) New players need cash to catch up
(01:47:44am) (+Angelos) Either that, or no personal life
(01:47:46am) (+Feri) neither did plague JT
(01:47:48am) (+RobeSGW) Big spenders can fight each other and fund boths ervers :)
(01:47:48am) (+Tziki) the game isnt viable for new players anyway, it takes to long to ascend and catch up to players who are at Unknown.
(01:47:50am) (+Tekki) but when push comes to shove, Beli's is not competing becuase he does not have the naq
(01:47:51am) (+JediTank) you are one of us guys robe
(01:47:51am) (+Feri) but that was the reasoning used
(01:47:52am) (+Ifrit) thank Angelos
(01:47:55am) (+DuckDodgers) Elites realm: where you get kick automatically if you are above plague, and kicked back to normal when below :>
(01:47:56am) (+Kjarkur) Is this about new players - or the fact some people couldn't hit Feri ?
(01:47:57am) (+Tziki) could take upto a year to et there
(01:47:58am) (+Ifrit) thats why I think cash needs limiting
(01:47:59am) (+caesar) trade limit, raid llimit and plague cap are growing daily. GW is here for 7 years i think. player with 7 years old account has skill and huge history. player strting today has no real chance to compete with him if these updates wont soften these differences
(01:48:04am) (+Ryuujin) robe your one to talk calling us big spenders...........
(01:48:07am) • +Haz points out the naq surveys
(01:48:13am) (+Tekki) the Plague update makes sense - at plague why do you need officers?
(01:48:14am) (+Haz) maybe use those to help this out?
(01:48:18am) (+RobeSGW) Its about mechanics and plague actually working as original designed
(01:48:20am) (+Tziki) elite realm, that makes sense
(01:48:21am) (~AdminHere) ok sorry - think i got it
(01:48:27am) (+Ryuujin) the plague does work
(01:48:28am) (+Feri) actually I have a suggestion then
(01:48:32am) (+JediTank) the plagie update makes sense because Feri is seen as a threat
(01:48:36am) (+Ryuujin) but whos to stop someone if they invest in beating it
(01:48:38am) (+Kjarkur) Feri had to spend huge to fight the plague
(01:48:41am) (+Feri) if you have over trade cap army you dont neede officers
(01:48:42am) (+Ryuujin) and you moan about them being bigger than you
(01:48:45am) (+Angelos) What's Feri done now?
(01:48:48am) (+Feri) you obviously arent a noob if you have trade cap
(01:48:48am) (+Ryuujin) so you get all up boost remooved
(01:48:49am) (+JediTank) simple as that..sorry but thats the jist of it
(01:48:50am) (+Ifrit) at plague why do you need USS UU to grow? you shouldnt you have enough UU to compete...
(01:48:52am) (+Ryuujin) now you want USS remooved
(01:49:05am) (+Ifrit) no not removed
(01:49:09am) (+Cyrus) is this topic is all abt feri
(01:49:10am) (+Cyrus) lol
(01:49:13am) (+Ryuujin) i concur with JT
(01:49:13am) (~AdminHere) BUT - i need the ID of the alliance or user that is in thiss thread:http://talk.gatewa.rs/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=182179
(01:49:18am) (+RobeSGW) Ceaser you really should post this idea in Game suggestions so players can debate it first
(01:49:24am) (+Tekki) yeah I want a different topic :)
(01:49:25am) (+Feri) whats the difference between a plague account not deserving UP from officers and a account with 39cov right below plague deserving them?
(01:49:26am) (&Paul) at this rate just have jason delete the database and start from scratch
(01:49:27am) (+JediTank) no its about plague that allowed for a 230tril defense
(01:49:31am) (+RobeSGW) that way you can hear all sides of the discussion first
(01:49:33am) (+Haz) http://gatewars.com//allianceMembers.php?id=Modded AdminHere
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(01:49:36am) (+RobeSGW) and Jason can review it
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(01:49:51am) (~AdminHere) thx haz
(01:49:52am) (+Ifrit) why are you personalizing it, FERI is a example of what exactly it will turn into if you just sweep it under the rug
(01:49:54am) (+caesar) not Feri JT! but see around the server... many unmassable defences. i say unmassable because with all abilities these guys will be massed and day after building same defences cuse this is alowed. USS units is the BUG! should be fixed and no USS units able to buy once the player is over the plague
(01:50:02am) (+Ifrit) so please stop being subjective and be objective ;)
(01:50:07am) (+Ryuujin) because he knows its being made to fight his account
(01:50:07am) (+Tziki) could someone repeat what admin jsut said xD i clicked the linnk and got bugged
(01:50:09am) (+RobeSGW) I dont know why you guys personalise things so much
(01:50:14am) (+Ryuujin) i mean why not do these updates before?
(01:50:15am) (+RobeSGW) this should be about what is good for the game
(01:50:16am) (+Ryuujin) why now?
(01:50:19am) (+RobeSGW) not individual players
(01:50:22am) (+JediTank) I dont disagree with the potential for rediculousness
(01:50:25am) (+Feri) I am being objective. I think that officer bonus should be removed for everyone
(01:50:28am) (+Haz) (01:49:36am) (+RobeSGW) and Jason can review it <---tziki that was all
(01:50:32am) (+Feri) any unknowns dont need officers
(01:50:37am) (+Tekki) no one probably thought about it Ryuujin, welcoem tot he way things are, someone has to trigger something
(01:50:38am) (+Feri) any over trade cap dont need officers
(01:50:38am) (+Ryuujin) feri is very good for the game apioneer i would say he is breaking records and why? because he put the effort in
(01:50:43am) (+RobeSGW) stop personalising stuff and think of the entire server
(01:50:44am) (+Ryuujin) if you put teh effort you could too
(01:50:44am) (+JediTank) I disagree with the motivation and the WANT to reduce 1 area and not an even sweep
(01:50:47am) (+Tekki) be proud Fericide, you triggered teh question
(01:50:59am) (&Paul) i say we just reset everyones accounts
(01:51:00am) (+Kjarkur) Is this about the server and new players, or the fact that you think you can't mass someone ???
(01:51:00am) (&Paul) and be done
(01:51:03am) (+Feri) I'm saying take it further :) if the reason for no officers at plague is that htey dont need it
(01:51:05am) (&Paul) then we are equal
(01:51:09am) (&Paul) and new players will have a chance.
(01:51:16am) (&Paul) if u want wats good for teh server
(01:51:17am) (+Ryuujin) so feri having a huge account it suddenly springs to tekki robe and ifrits mind? lets kill the UP boost from plague
(01:51:17am) (+Feri) then nobody with a fully ascended account needs officers UP
(01:51:21am) (+caesar) kjarkur? was yoru defence massed inpast?
(01:51:24am) (+RoKeT) yeah and money spenders lose out on thousands xD
(01:51:26am) (+Ryuujin) when you in the past have moaned about not being able to beat the plague
(01:51:29am) (+RobeSGW) or make an elite server for big spenders so they can play with each other
(01:51:30am) (+Ryuujin) why contradict yourself?
(01:51:31am) (+Kjarkur) caesar, eventually yes
(01:51:33am) (+Ryuujin) or lie even?
(01:51:38am) (+Kjarkur) Like all defenses
(01:51:39am) (+Tekki) That killing the UP boost from plague was brought up by someone who was OVER the plague
(01:51:40am) (+caesar) so why do you think someone cant mass 230T defence?
(01:51:42am) (+DuckDodgers) When having an elites realm, you could shove a lot of hard core players there when they go above certain limits ...
(01:51:43am) (+Kjarkur) they'll get massed eventually
(01:51:45am) (+JediTank) its rediculous for the thought of a new player be able to compete with a power account
(01:51:56am) (+JediTank) a new player has work to do
(01:51:57am) (+Kjarkur) caesar, Feri's def can be massed
(01:51:58am) (+Kjarkur) it's just a matter of time
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(01:52:08am) (+Ifrit) no I think the point is at plague you dont need it, before that its okay to get some growth bonus to catch to those at plague ;)
(01:52:08am) (+Tekki) then when you are doing it KJ, let us know how that goes
(01:52:12am) (+Tekki) you know full well you are NOT going to do it
(01:52:17am) (+Tekki) you DO NOT have the UU to do it personally
(01:52:18am) (+Kjarkur) He'll if this gets fixed I'll get 10 officers, build massive up and biggest strike ever or highest covert ever lmao
(01:52:18am) (&Paul) i think ne1 over 500mil army should have tehre account reset..
(01:52:21am) (+caesar) yes JT, work to do... but not to spend $3000 just to be ABLE to see your stats with covert power
(01:52:26am) (+JediTank) we are discussing that idea in the dde forum duck
(01:52:27am) (+Cyrus) for a new player its hard thing to catch u guys
(01:52:30am) (+RobeSGW) Does every meeting have to be about Feri or can we take a huge mental acrobatic leap
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(01:52:35am) (+RoKeT) Why do we not just stop Resource selling out side of the game all together, I dont' see a downside to it can someone please explain?
(01:52:35am) (~AdminHere) : http://gatewars.com//allianceMembers.php?id=Modded AdminHere: do not see an issue here.
(01:52:40am) (+Ryuujin) dazaman prooved a defence was massable by sabbing feri on beta from 450t to 230T whilst online , if it can be done at that scale
(01:52:44am) (+Ryuujin) it can be done on a lower scale
(01:52:51am) (+JediTank) set parameters for the houses..which could be changed to start systems..(getting back to the theme a bit)
(01:52:58am) (+Tekki) Beta is rather diferent Ryuujin
(01:53:01am) (&Paul) Ryuujin we massed fer i5 times on beta
(01:53:01am) (+Tekki) there is alot more naq
(01:53:01am) (+Cyrus) yeah what i am thinking robe
(01:53:04am) (&Paul) with no sabbing
(01:53:04am) (+Tekki) a lot more units
(01:53:05am) (+JediTank) and include a farm only option on the buttons
(01:53:06am) (&Paul) and it was doable
(01:53:07am) (+RobeSGW) i care about the game Ryu, not a select few individuals
(01:53:12am) (+Ifrit) personally I dont care about any of your accounts, I care about the game and play retention
(01:53:14am) (+caesar) ryu, dont make me laugh please. on beta are bit different numbers
(01:53:16am) (+Feri) lol you guys are the ones always making updates about me :)
(01:53:21am) (+Ifrit) player*
(01:53:26am) (+Tekki) be Proud Feri
(01:53:27am) (+Ryuujin) tekki you still havnt answer why your contradicting your self , or even lyin if the case?
(01:53:31am) (+RobeSGW) no Jason is
(01:53:32am) (+Tekki) do you want it called the Fericide update?
(01:53:33am) (+Haz) http://gatewars.com//stats.php?id=Modded is leader of the other alliance involved AdminHere
(01:53:38am) (+RobeSGW) he said plague had not been reviewed in years
(01:53:39am) (+Tekki) you haven't tol me what I'm SUPPOSEDLY lying about?
(01:53:46am) (+KC_Guest24626) I don't think admin's reading this everyone :O
(01:53:49am) (+Ryuujin) i care about teh game
(01:53:52am) (+Ryuujin) and the people who enjoy
(01:53:55am) (+Ryuujin) not seek to destroy it
(01:54:01am) (+Tekki) then tell me what I'm supposedly lying about Ryuujin
(01:54:02am) (+Ryuujin) i laready have tekki
(01:54:05am) (+Tekki) tell me again
(01:54:07am) (+caesar) so whats yoru idea ryu?
(01:54:08am) (+Tekki) it got lost in spam
(01:54:11am) (+JediTank) well they made an update because of "random massing" feri
(01:54:11am) (+Angelos) I don't enjoy this game at all anymore :P
(01:54:11am) (+Ryuujin) you and robe have moaned about the plague being too tough many times
(01:54:14am) (+Feri) its not about the defenses reember?
(01:54:16am) (+JediTank) join the fame club
(01:54:17am) (+Kjarkur) So when I build something glorius I can except game updates to ruin it ??
(01:54:24am) (+Ryuujin) now saying it stupid being able to beat it
(01:54:28am) (+Ryuujin) if you put the effort in
(01:54:29am) (+Feri) anyways I can be massed with less losses for attacker than i lose
(01:54:30am) (+Tekki) oh so now it's me personally?
(01:54:32am) (+Feri) or even sabbed with less
(01:54:36am) (+Tekki) cheers Ryuujin
(01:54:37am) (+caesar) kjarkur, whats glorios on sending money? :)
(01:54:39am) (+Tekki) nice to know how you feel
(01:54:44am) (+Borek) The reason he was massed on Beta is coz the alliance is not active, there's no one looking at the logs, repairing, ppting, counter-massing
(01:55:07am) (+Ryuujin) why do you think you dont enjoy it , whos influenced most of the updates?
(01:55:09am) (+Cyrus) i think he can be massed in this server
(01:55:12am) (+Borek) not to mention you effectively have unlimited access to units
(01:55:13am) (+RobeSGW) and unlimited resources no repairs no context
(01:55:19am) (+RobeSGW) dont make me laugh beta is not main
(01:55:23am) (+Feri) so if thats the case Borek then the non def related updates are the issue
(01:55:23am) (+Angelos) This is all mute
(01:55:24am) (+Kjarkur) Then we get to the alliance repairs, perhaps repairing defense weapons should be removed
(01:55:31am) (+Kjarkur) but keep reep offensive weapons
(01:55:34am) (+Feri) such as alliance repair should never have been introduced
(01:55:35am) (+Borek) he could be massed if he dropped out his alliance and didn't log in for a few weeks
(01:55:36am) (+Kjarkur) for organized massings on big defenses
(01:55:37am) (&Paul) maybe all alliance gifts should be removed?
(01:55:38am) (+Feri) for either att or def
(01:55:38am) (+RobeSGW) then post that as a suggestion in game updates KJ
(01:55:43am) (+RobeSGW) I am sure many would agree with u
(01:55:46am) (+Tekki) hmm KJ I would say remove all the weapon repairs
(01:55:47am) (+Tziki) 59621 - is the correct leader of the alliance, however 87619 should be leader of alliance id - 16934, with player 84174 as 2ic
(01:55:55am) (+Tekki) if you only remove defence, thent hat afavours massers/farmers
(01:55:56am) (+Ryuujin) so how about we just revert sgw back to the old 1 at massing days
(01:55:58am) (+Feri) alliance repair and ppt ruined the game more than anything I ever did.
(01:55:59am) (+caesar) and who sayd he cant be massed. Feris defence would fall in half hour if a team will start. thats not a big problem. so stop talking about his stupid dfefence. lets talk how to stop this exploits by spending money!
(01:55:59am) (+Borek) there are multiple issues Feri as we discussed last night on MSN
(01:56:00am) (+Ryuujin) were was easy to mass a defence
(01:56:03am) (+Angelos) All I see here are large mega insane accounts complaining. Yet I don't see anyone who's actually representing the smaller players or the newer ones :/
(01:56:04am) (+JediTank) yes lose the defense rapir so I can get back to playing again
(01:56:05am) (+Ryuujin) would that stop you ruining the game??
(01:56:06am) (+RobeSGW) Yeah alliance Defence Repairs and PPT are a most hated update
(01:56:13am) (+RobeSGW) we all agree on that
(01:56:16am) (+Kjarkur) Tekki, at first I thought so too - but keeping repair offensive weapons, at least a couple per week - should be kept for team work in bringing big defenses down
(01:56:19am) (+Feri) and att repairs also robe
(01:56:19am) (+Ryuujin) i think ppt alliance is a fair and good update
(01:56:28am) (+Feri) no reason it should be free to mass or farm
(01:56:36am) (+RobeSGW) Sure get rid of the lot
(01:56:37am) (+Borek) no, the cost of having a huge strike is it COSTS to use it
(01:56:47am) (+JediTank) you probably have to visit our forum angelos to see a representation for smaller, newer players
(01:56:50am) (+Feri) but with alliance repair it doesnt
(01:56:50am) (+RobeSGW) If you dont have alliance Defence repairs then you dont need alliance Attack repairs
(01:56:52am) (+Feri) its free
(01:56:56am) (+RobeSGW) as long as they are equal it makes sense
(01:56:57am) (+Feri) thats fine
(01:56:59am) (+Feri) lets remove
(01:57:02am) (+Tekki) if they even visit the forum still given the hostile ground it can be
(01:57:03am) (+Ryuujin) borek your stike is not huge
(01:57:04am) (+Kjarkur) Borek, take a better look, massers loss HUGE UU losses when they mass
(01:57:06am) (+Ryuujin) how would you know?
(01:57:07am) (+Feri) and then am I massable?
(01:57:07am) (+Kjarkur) it should be like that
(01:57:16am) (+Kjarkur) but one or two free repairs through the massing
(01:57:17am) (+RobeSGW) but start a thread in game suggestions so players that cant attend the meeting can debate it
(01:57:18am) (+Borek) it's huge enough to farm you Ryu lol
(01:57:19am) (+RobeSGW) first
(01:57:21am) (+caesar) everyone just reminder, Feri changed his account, its cripled, its a big of waste. his accounts is worth a **Filtered**. so who is jelous, can try to build such tragedy.
(01:57:22am) (+Kjarkur) will cause more and fun wars
(01:57:25am) (+JediTank) I dont care which, I just want to be able to mass the crap out of you all again whenerver I want
(01:57:28am) (+Kjarkur) didn't you just say this is a war game, Borek?
(01:57:34am) (+Ryuujin) ive farmed with strikes larger than your defence..
(01:57:39am) (+Ryuujin) i famred fine without alliance repairs
(01:57:47am) (+Feri) being able to mass before made the game enjoyable
(01:57:56am) (+Borek) Yes, which is why you should be expected to pay the price of having huge stats
(01:57:58am) (&Paul) the game isnt enjoyable anymore..
(01:57:59am) (+Ryuujin) why is it crippled
(01:57:59am) (+JediTank) hell yes it did
(01:57:59am) (&Paul) period
(01:58:04am) (&Paul) since all of these dumb updates
(01:58:04am) (+Tekki) depending on what you are talking about massing was a bit too easy
(01:58:04am) (+RobeSGW) yes i was thinking the same C2, it must be terrible to have >200t Def and 700t Cov
(01:58:05am) (+RoKeT) Old massing was the bomb!!!!
(01:58:08am) (+Ryuujin) because you guys ruined the game for anyone looking to have a good UP
(01:58:08am) (&Paul) ie why i quit again
(01:58:09am) (+Ryuujin) and build big
(01:58:11am) (+RobeSGW) I can see why he is worried someone will mass him NOT
(01:58:16am) (+Tekki) lol Roket - how old?
(01:58:19am) (+JediTank) you know it roket
(01:58:23am) (+Borek) But hey, oh look i am suggesting a change that doesn't actually benefit myself, but benefits the whole game
(01:58:24am) (+Feri) I would love to be massed :)
(01:58:38am) (+Tekki) a good UP serves as more than just a plague avoider
(01:58:41am) (&Paul) i miss the holiday massacres..
(01:58:45am) (+RoKeT) so bring back old massing hehehehe it would happen
(01:58:47am) (+caesar) i undertsand you Feri :D
(01:58:49am) (+RobeSGW) then why build an account that only a few can do with aliance support and try to nap everyone that can?
(01:58:49am) (&Paul) thanksgiving day massacre
(01:58:50am) (+Ifrit) *agrees with Borek*
(01:59:07am) (+Feri) lol
(01:59:10am) (+Ifrit) cunning stradegy robe :D
(01:59:11am) (+Cyrus) lol
(01:59:19am) (+Ifrit) give him some credit :P
(01:59:25am) (+caesar) Robe, to create a coalition of selfcalled Gods and be cocky on forums? :D
(01:59:26am) (+Ryuujin) funny you say that robe but arnt you naped with almost the entire server?
(01:59:26am) (+Kjarkur) viewtopic.php?f=13&t=182612
(01:59:28am) (+RobeSGW) actually hats off to Feri, he pushed the limits
(01:59:36am) (+RobeSGW) its the trend that is a concern
(01:59:41am) (+Feri) if UP is over powered for +plague then its over powered completely at all
(01:59:46am) (+Cyrus) yeah hats off
(01:59:55am) (+Ryuujin) so you dont want people to grow bigger than you robe because you cant keep up and you would be jealouse?
(02:00:06am) (+Tekki) viewtopic.php?f=101&t=182499
(02:00:08am) (+DuckDodgers) how many meets has feri been in the center of discussion already ?
(02:00:09am) (+Feri) so solution is remove alliance repair completely, remove officer UP from anyone with anything more than a LG account
(02:00:10am) (+Angelos) Umm, a question to all here. WHO ACTUALLY ENJOYS PLAYING ANYMORE?
(02:00:19am) (&Paul) DuckDodgers about the last 3 months
(02:00:28am) (+DuckDodgers) holy cows
(02:00:32am) (&Paul) Angelos
(02:00:33am) (&Paul) i dont
(02:00:37am) (+caesar) ryu, your bit blocked I think. whats wrong on slowing the speed of growth over plague?
(02:00:40am) (+Angelos) Because everyone of you is complaining, so you obviously aren't enjoying it
(02:00:45am) (+DuckDodgers) and people still give it there full go here during the admin meet how its suposed to be adressed ?
(02:00:50am) (+DuckDodgers) what are they trying to achieve ???????
(02:00:53am) (+Ryuujin) soloution that robe wants , remoove all officer and commander , have max 200k UP per day , remoove USS , BANN anyone bigger than Robe , and destroy the game
(02:00:56am) (&Paul) Angelos why u think i suggest an entire game reset.
(02:01:02am) (+Angelos) And do you know you guys aren't enjoying it? Because of all your updates you've pushed admin into doing
(02:01:02am) (+Ifrit) dude if you reach 'Untouchable' armysizes cause you keep pushing the plague how is that gonna help retain players who already have to play 1 year to get a Unknown, not to include competing against one hit mass sissies, and needing to build a MS and deal with VERY little control on cash spending?
(02:01:03am) (+Kjarkur) caesar, it should have been done before people planned and spent time and resources on fighting it ?
(02:01:16am) (+Angelos) and then everytime it doesn't work out, you go and complain again
(02:01:17am) (+RobeSGW) actually that wasnt my suggestion Ryu you silly thing
(02:01:17am) (+caesar) kjarkur... it happened dozen times in past :)
(02:01:18am) (&Paul) play 1 year to get unkown
(02:01:20am) (+RobeSGW) I just thought it was a good one
(02:01:21am) (&Paul) tell me how to do that
(02:01:27am) (+caesar) if you still didnt learn, so why are you playing GW?
(02:01:28am) (+Ryuujin) yes but you are pushing it
(02:01:30am) (+RoKeT) 1 year to get an unknown? you can trade for resources in a month to get a unknown
(02:01:36am) (+RobeSGW) yes it was a good idea,
(02:01:37am) (+Feri) I'm not arguing the plague updates even tho they were directed at me because you dislike me. I'm saying UP in general is overpowered obviously
(02:01:43am) (+Ryuujin) what a good idea
(02:01:44am) (+Feri) and alliance repairs ruin the game
(02:01:45am) (+DuckDodgers) you logged everything, right paul, could you do a search for me and count how often "feri's defence" is mentioned :s
(02:01:48am) (+RobeSGW) and i am sure everyone is entitled to their own opinion ryu
(02:01:55am) (+Ryuujin) to basically bann anyone to get bigger than you?
(02:01:57am) (+RobeSGW) unless you think your opinion is worth more than others
(02:01:59am) (+Tekki) so HALVE everyone's UP Feri?
(02:02:00am) (&Paul) DuckDodgers im not counting that
(02:02:03am) (+Ryuujin) no i do not
(02:02:05am) (&Paul) id be countin for days
(02:02:07am) (+DuckDodgers) nvm was sarcasm ^_^
(02:02:14am) (+caesar) since 1m Raw is avearge nowdays UP power is overpovered...
(02:02:15am) (+Ryuujin) but i am having my say here and i will argue my point
(02:02:17am) (&Paul) but yes everything is logged
(02:02:20am) (+Cyrus) so any of u can see feri
(02:02:30am) (+Ryuujin) caesar thats absoloute BS
(02:02:35am) (+DuckDodgers) I wondere how many other good points been brought up and got burried under feri's defence too :D
(02:02:37am) (+Ryuujin) if you put the effort and time into a thing its not overpower
(02:02:43am) (+RoKeT) i can't see halfing just one thing, if we were to half we'd have to half everything, but doing that money spenders could bounce back to very fast so it still would be complained about lol
(02:02:43am) (+DuckDodgers) Feri, your def is killing more then you like :P
(02:02:48am) (+caesar) ryu, your not arguing, your just offensive and talking in circles
(02:02:52am) (+Feri) no no ryu effort is only allowed if you build fleets
(02:02:52am) (+Cyrus) lol
(02:02:54am) (+Ryuujin) thats like aasyaing because i spent quads of naq and put 100's$ in jasons pocket my ms was overpowerd?
(02:03:07am) (+KC_Guest24626) But it is?
(02:03:19am) (+Ryuujin) how is it?
(02:03:21am) (+Tekki) lol
(02:03:29am) (+Ryuujin) many other players have ms's similar
(02:03:31am) (+Ryuujin) and fleets the same
(02:03:32am) (+KC_Guest24626) Because it was built by not playing the game
(02:03:33am) (+RoKeT) anymore ;)
(02:03:38am) (+Feri) Boreks acc is easily more overpowered than mine :P
(02:03:42am) (+Ryuujin) and no one complains
(02:03:42am) (&Paul) the only way to win anymore
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(02:03:49am) (+Borek) Bottom line is Alliance repair is making massing cost nothing for the attacker and nothing for the defender assuming an IC is online for each, this makes the huge stats really not having sufficient drawback. Huge stats should cost a LOT to repair
(02:03:50am) (+caesar) ryu, pardon but never saw you in real action with the MS so maybe it was a waste to spend the money on it? and damn... who else would spennd money on MS after last big updates?
(02:03:50am) (+Ifrit) yes feri, fleets were adjusted cause planets were untouchable....
(02:03:52am) (+DuckDodgers) hey toots
(02:03:52am) (+Ryuujin) look at robe tekki dazaman kjarkur jt my acc field marhssals
(02:03:54am) (+RobeSGW) everything and everyone should be massable in game
(02:03:55am) (~AdminHere) sorry more PM :( more bug ... (at least solving it)
(02:04:00am) (+Tekki) I think we need to look at teh GC to see how things are really - only two wars going supposedly
(02:04:00am) (+Ryuujin) every good player in this game ahs spent alot of $
(02:04:01am) (+RobeSGW) no matter how rich they are
(02:04:09am) (+Ryuujin) be it on covert levels ms UU's or naq or At's
(02:04:16am) (+Cyrus) well i cant spent a bit
(02:04:18am) (~AdminHere) just so ppl know, whatever I did not get a chance to read during meeting, I do/will read AFTER meeting :) when posting slows down
(02:04:19am) (+KC_Guest24626) Max never spend $$
(02:04:21am) (&Paul) you wanna know whats killin teh game really
(02:04:21am) (+Feri) everything is massable
(02:04:23am) (&Paul) all of you..
(02:04:23am) (+Kjarkur) And who decides who is unmassable, Robe ?
(02:04:25am) (+Cyrus) bcz paypal problems
(02:04:28am) (+Borek) Also i would point out that it was Bullseye who suggested that Officers do not add to UP past plague, not Robe (Bulls being the previous owner of my account)
(02:04:39am) (+Cyrus) well i decide to become unmassable
(02:04:43am) (+Feri) yawn that has been mentioned now several times borek
(02:04:48am) (+RobeSGW) the maths and coding
(02:04:49am) (+Tekki) and who was above plague himself getting a significant UP boost from officers
(02:04:52am) (+Ryuujin) actualy c2 you watched me fight jt online and apluaded how much destrucction my ms done to his
(02:04:57am) (+DuckDodgers) AdminHere, are you saying Feri's Defence is now assing the admin convo's ?
(02:05:02am) (+Ryuujin) therfor it was a well worth investment
(02:05:03am) (+DuckDodgers) massing*
(02:05:08am) (+Feri) I'm destroying the game!
(02:05:14am) (+Feri) my secret plan
(02:05:14am) (+RobeSGW) Game shoudl suit all, not just a chosen few willing to spend a lot of cash
(02:05:18am) (+Cyrus) lol
(02:05:20am) (+RoKeT) aren't we all Feri aren't we all xD
(02:05:21am) (+Feri) devalue it and then just buy the game
(02:05:23am) (+DuckDodgers) the meets too
(02:05:32am) (+Feri) robe you spend just as much money on this game as anyone else.
(02:05:36am) (+Ryuujin) but robe you are one of those chosen few
(02:05:42am) (+Ryuujin) why leaving your self out like your not?
(02:05:47am) (+Kjarkur) So everyone is free to powerup as they wish until it threatens a select few, then it gets changed ?
(02:05:49am) (+RobeSGW) no i dont feri, i hardly spend anything on game these days
(02:05:58am) (+Kjarkur) This is also just to please a select few
(02:05:58am) (+RobeSGW) so stop personalising it
(02:06:04am) (+Feri) these days being what since you have massive fleets?
(02:06:04am) (+RobeSGW) its not all about YOU feri
(02:06:09am) (+Angelos) THESE DAYS
(02:06:12am) (+Angelos) You used to Robe
(02:06:14am) (+RobeSGW) yes all of which can be massed
(02:06:22am) (+Feri) and so can def
(02:06:25am) (+Ryuujin) yes by whom?
(02:06:26am) (+Feri) you havnt tried it and you refuse
(02:06:29am) (+Ryuujin) someone like my old acc m's
(02:06:32am) (+Ryuujin) or a smaller one
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(02:06:37am) (+Kjarkur) So if me and my friends decide you can't be massed Robe, we get an update ?
(02:06:39am) (+Ryuujin) but willneed trills and trills in naq to bring it down
(02:06:40am) (+Feri) because its easier to convince admin its overpower
(02:06:52am) (+RoKeT) Hi Clarkster!!!!!
(02:06:53am) (+Kjarkur) It was not discussed well enough, and who decided something was unmassable ?
(02:06:55am) (+RobeSGW) if you cant mass a 50t defence with your acccounts you should quite the game
(02:06:58am) (+Feri) without even trying
(02:06:59am) (+Clarkey) hi
(02:07:00am) (+RobeSGW) quit
(02:07:04am) (+Ryuujin) Yes robe cant be massed delete her ascended bonuses and covert levels please
(02:07:09am) (+Tekki) Ascension - could we please get an outbox for PMs? :P
(02:07:17am) (+RobeSGW) i am not the one with a 230t Defence and 700t covert....
(02:07:17am) (+Tekki) though I'd randomly put that in there again
(02:07:20am) (+Feri) I cant descend robe
(02:07:21am) (+Ryuujin) robe
(02:07:22am) (+Feri) thats unfair
(02:07:23am) (+JediTank) hey Clarkey
(02:07:24am) (+Kjarkur) I have massed bigger then that Robe, but answer the question pplease
(02:07:26am) (+Angelos) You know what, I'm a 315 mil AG. I have a **Filtered** covert, a **Filtered** ms, a **Filtered** up and **Filtered** planets. In short, despite my size. My account is a bag of **Filtered**. And why? Because I can't spend my income on one thing without the others being left behind.
(02:07:27am) (+Ryuujin) youve had over 900T covert plenty of times
(02:07:30am) (+Clarkey) hi JT
(02:07:36am) (+Feri) her ascended account makes noobs leave the game.
(02:07:41am) (+Kjarkur) Yeah Ascended Server is BS, people are undescendable
(02:07:43am) (+RobeSGW) i love you avert the discussion and personalise
(02:07:50am) (+RobeSGW) this shoudl be about the game, not individual players
(02:07:51am) (+Angelos) If I, with an account that size struggle. What about those smaller and weaker than me?
(02:07:55am) (+RobeSGW) whats best for the GAME
(02:07:56am) (+Kjarkur) This is about the game
(02:07:58am) (+RoKeT) I agree how crazy would it be if you actually had to check your ascended once a day :S
(02:07:58am) (+RobeSGW) not individiuals
(02:08:10am) (+Kjarkur) New players can't get certain people on the ascended server
(02:08:15am) (+Kjarkur) NOBODY should be undescandable
(02:08:17am) (+JediTank) see what I mean..nothing can ever get done because its the same ol same ol everytime..somebody is afraid so we need a change but FOR GOD'S SAKE DONT CHANGE MINE!!!!
(02:08:18am) (+Ryuujin) robe stop being silly
(02:08:21am) (+Angelos) What's best for the game has been the warcry of everyone who's wanted an update
(02:08:28am) (+Kjarkur) is it fair that you can descend new players and they can't descend you?
(02:08:31am) (+Ryuujin) "im not the one with 230T and 700T covert" then you say stop individualising it
(02:08:32am) (+RobeSGW) so how is it good for the game that people beat plague to build accounts that only a few can mass or sab
(02:08:33am) (+Kjarkur) Everyone should be able to descend everyone
(02:08:34am) (+Angelos) Even your sworn nemesis ETL Robe :P
(02:08:35am) (+Ryuujin) stop contradicting yourself!
(02:08:36am) (+Ifrit) its a mute arguement you can have all 1s and be undeascndable :)
(02:08:37am) (+Feri) whoever can PM admin more or email him more
(02:08:43am) (+RobeSGW) and only then if 30 accounts are willing to work in a team to do it
(02:08:47am) (+Feri) which hey you do a good job at arranging robe.
(02:08:48am) (+JediTank) its called elite robe
(02:08:50am) (+RobeSGW) every single account shoudl be massable by one player
(02:08:53am) (+Tekki) huh since when did ETL swear that?
(02:08:55am) (+RobeSGW) of equal standing
(02:08:58am) (+Kjarkur) Ok if everyone should be massable
(02:09:01am) (+JediTank) lets drop your ascended because I cant descend you
(02:09:02am) (+Kjarkur) then everyone should be descendable
(02:09:04am) (+Feri) of equal standing
(02:09:04am) (+Ryuujin) again she avoids the comment towards her
(02:09:05am) (+RobeSGW) stop trying to pull the wool over everyone guys
(02:09:05am) (+caesar) Hey guys, those all the time ofending Robe... shut up idiots. come with siome ideas not insults
(02:09:06am) (+Feri) so build a UP
(02:09:18am) (+caesar) and ryu you especialy please
(02:09:27am) (+Kjarkur) Robe, you should be descandable like the new players, if everyone is to be massable, let's be fair, and think of the new players
(02:09:27am) (+Ifrit) EVERY player in game is undescendable, IF they know how to play. EVEN if you have 1s
(02:09:28am) (+Kjarkur) ;)
(02:09:29am) (+RobeSGW) oh but ceaser i am such an easy mark
(02:09:30am) (+Cyrus) so feri u also having a top class ascended acct
(02:09:33am) (+Angelos) Everytime he wanted something Tekki :P
(02:09:34am) (+Ifrit) so your arguement is VERY flawed
(02:09:36am) (+Kjarkur) Ifirt, not Robe
(02:09:37am) (+JediTank) and thats garbage..why should a single account be massable by a single player?
(02:09:37am) (+Feri) my asc acc is crap
(02:09:38am) (+Angelos) Everyone has said it
(02:09:40am) (+JediTank) thats garbage
(02:09:46am) (+Cyrus) oh ok
(02:09:47am) (+Ryuujin) robe you are the one pulling at the wool
(02:09:55am) (+Feri) compared to robes
(02:09:55am) (+RobeSGW) that way we dont have to ask difficult questions as to why anyone wants to build 250t defences with 700t coverts in the first place
(02:10:00am) (+RoKeT) I agree if your a better account why should you lose it because of someone who didn't work as hard as you?
(02:10:00am) (+RobeSGW) no one has ever answered that
(02:10:06am) (+Ifrit) no feri your ascended is good, you can withstand a 5b ToC for 20+ hours ;)
(02:10:08am) (+Kjarkur) I saw Robe's ascended details yesterday it is quite impressive but new players can't compete with that
(02:10:09am) (+caesar) yes Robe, i see the way how they want to push on things... all insulting Robe for something what she didnt write and once they done with Robe they move opn Tekki
(02:10:11am) (+caesar) mupets ffs
(02:10:15am) (+Angelos) Because what else are they going to spend their resouces on Robe?
(02:10:17am) (+RoKeT) Feri busted his ass for what he has, others have MS's others have higher Cov's nothing wrong with the advantadge he has
(02:10:21am) (+Feri) fleets angelos
(02:10:25am) (+Feri) or sabbing
(02:10:26am) (+Ryuujin) caesar stop licking up and ive come up with quite a few idea which has been boycotted by anyone thats seems to be on robe or tekkis "side"
(02:10:46am) (+JediTank) robe and tekki have thier hired gun at work..
(02:10:48am) (+RobeSGW) see ryu when insult players no one will listen to our point of view
(02:10:50am) (+Feri) and roket thats the thing people want to be able to mass for way cheaper than the cost of the amount destroyed
(02:10:50am) (+Ryuujin) and why should we listen to robes ideas if she cant make her mind up?
(02:10:50am) (+Ifrit) I might agree with you rocket, if cash spending was limited ;)
(02:10:51am) (+Tekki) hey Robe, we are a side now! :D
(02:11:02am) (+caesar) i wrote idea, you maybe didnt see it cuse was blind by someones ass and focused on insults only
(02:11:03am) (+Kjarkur) If we are all to agree feri was untouchable we want changes to asended so everyone is descendable it is HIGHLY unfair that someone can be so far ahead
(02:11:04am) (+Ryuujin) i am not insulting
(02:11:04am) (+RobeSGW) oh yeah Tekki, only boys can friends in this game
(02:11:16am) (+RobeSGW) girls are banned from agreeing with each other about udpates ;)
(02:11:26am) (+RobeSGW) yes you are insulting ryu
(02:11:27am) (+KC_Guest24626) You 2 are girls :O:O
(02:11:27am) (+Borek) I have noticed when someone has no worthwhile argument they can only resort to insulting people
(02:11:30am) (+RoKeT) Well i do miss old time massing dont' get me wrong, i pretty much quit with the new update on the cov, but a 230 trill D is out of my way either way hahhaha
(02:11:31am) (+Clarkey) lets not make this a sexist thing
(02:11:37am) (+Ifrit) KJ the thing is CASH isnt invloved in ascended ;)
(02:11:37am) (+RobeSGW) exactly borek
(02:11:47am) (+JediTank) your not banned, we are all just tired of your all's behind the back BS to suit your own account purposes
(02:11:50am) (+Ryuujin) now caesar says im insulting people but swear towards me?
(02:11:51am) (+Ryuujin) grow up
(02:11:53am) (+Ifrit) you cant buy off the admin you have to find players to trade with and ATs are limited
(02:11:57am) (+Ifrit) so you have to do the work
(02:11:58am) (+RobeSGW) so guys answer this one question so I can understand your PoV
(02:12:09am) (+RobeSGW) why do you want to build 250t def 700t coverts?
(02:12:12am) (+DuckDodgers) I thought Robe & tekki were always on eachother side ;P
(02:12:15am) (+JediTank) why not
(02:12:18am) (+Kjarkur) I don't Robe
(02:12:21am) (+Feri) why do you want to have an undescendable account?
(02:12:22am) (+caesar) Ryu, for you again... am coming with idea to remove or lower USS units count for player over plague cuse it is the only way how to gfet enough units for 200+T defence in 3 weeks!
(02:12:24am) (+RoKeT) Plus one for JT
(02:12:26am) (+Kjarkur) I'd prefer a 300 T strike
(02:12:26am) (+Kjarkur) lol
(02:12:27am) (+RoKeT) hahahhaa answers it all
(02:12:32am) (+RobeSGW) because you are putting yourselves out of the game
(02:12:37am) (+Aiz) wow i wake up and i see people telling eachother to grow up at the admin meet
(02:12:38am) (+Aiz) made my day
(02:12:39am) (+JediTank) yea me 2
(02:12:43am) (+JediTank) MASS MASS MASS
(02:12:47am) (+Kjarkur) MASS !!!
(02:12:48am) (+Ifrit) *facepalm* ASCENDED is LIMITED, do you know what that word means?
(02:12:56am) (+RobeSGW) JT why dont you mass Feri then to prove it can be done?
(02:13:02am) (+Ryuujin) its possible for anyone to build that if they put the effort in and they should be allowed too as they wish
(02:13:08am) (+DuckDodgers) not another caeser move pls
(02:13:11am) (+Kjarkur) Tekki... is Robe descendable by you? Let me know how it works out ;)
(02:13:12am) (+JediTank) I will once I get my UU and UP high enough
(02:13:14am) (+Feri) limited to say people that have skill and wouldnt say need UP bonuses in main from officers?
(02:13:18am) (+JediTank) IT TAKES WORK!!!!
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(02:13:25am) (+DuckDodgers) and a damn lot of it
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(02:13:31am) (+JediTank) yep
(02:13:32am) (+Feri) hey lets try mind trick against Jedi!
(02:13:32am) (+JediTank) BUT
(02:13:32am) (+RobeSGW) yes but apart from WHY not
(02:13:33am) (+RoKeT) I think JT has massed his fair share of D's that had to be "Proven"
(02:13:34am) (+DuckDodgers) put some backbone in to it people :>
(02:13:35am) (+Feri) must mass feri jedi
(02:13:35am) (+Cyrus) everything needs work
(02:13:38am) (+RobeSGW) please answer Why
(02:13:40am) (+JediTank) if I want it by golly Im gonna have to earn it
(02:13:41am) (+Feri) wait am I doing that right?
(02:13:45am) (+Tekki) KJ: I asked you first
(02:13:49am) (+Ifrit) yes Feri thanks for pointing out that Main has very few limitations ;)
(02:13:54am) (+Ifrit) precisely :)
(02:13:56am) (+RobeSGW) why build mega accounts by pooling or your massive Ups so they cant be touched by anyone else
(02:13:58am) (+Feri) no no these are not the Feri you are looking for
(02:14:05am) (+RobeSGW) how is this good for the game
(02:14:10am) (+RobeSGW) anyone can answer?
(02:14:12am) (+Kjarkur) Tekki, about what? the update is in place there's no point now
(02:14:14am) (+RobeSGW) its clear its good for u
(02:14:15am) (+Ryuujin) jedi tank! *mind controll mode* mass feri , it will be glorious Rank 1 ME do ittt :O
(02:14:16am) (+RoKeT) Why does it always have to be JT to mass it hahahhahaha
(02:14:18am) (+RobeSGW) how is it good for the game
(02:14:24am) (+Clarkey) guys and gals listen up, Jason won't waste his time reading all the bickering. argue first then bring to jason, unless you don't want to resolve the situation.... lalalalala
(02:14:26am) (+caesar) just a reminder, JT invested huge amount of resources first time... and failed to mass my defence. second time i anounced 2 weeks before when i will leave account w/o protection and sent allaince wide to not repair my defence!
(02:14:27am) (+Feri) because apparantly JT has balls
(02:14:30am) (+DuckDodgers) Feri, does your defence gets fanmail ?
(02:14:32am) (+JediTank) its exciting..a legendary defense besieged by a legendary masser..the fans will love it
(02:14:38am) (+Ifrit) Rocket you are blind...
(02:14:43am) (+caesar) now JT can make a resume how much was burned just to mass 100T defo on active player
(02:14:45am) (+Tekki) and KJ if you read the ascension setting of the forum, you'd see I watned an update that meant group descensions were possible
(02:14:47am) (+Feri) directed by m night shamalyn
(02:14:48am) (+JediTank) :P
(02:14:49am) (+RobeSGW) Clarkey i dont think private meetings are the way to go in this subject or any other for that matter
(02:14:56am) (+RoKeT) it was just a joke everyone told him to do it for C2's too lol
(02:15:00am) (+Feri) your def being lasting is irrelevant to this c2
(02:15:05am) (+RobeSGW) if people having somethign to say that affects the game it shoudl be in the open meeting only
(02:15:06am) (+Borek) Well apparently Ryu is some sort of superman at the game so i look forward to seeing the report of him massing Feri's defense in main server
(02:15:15am) (+Feri) mine dropped quickly also proving it was the repairs and alliance ppt that are overpowered
(02:15:21am) (+JediTank) I dont know C2, it was allot..and it will take allot to mass a 230tril..but If I want to mass it then I have to earn it right?
(02:15:27am) (+JediTank) thank you
(02:15:31am) (+Ifrit) ask mH and TL how much Feri got massed in their last war, no i wasnt there but I was told about it ;)
(02:15:32am) (+RobeSGW) dont forget the 700t covert JT
(02:15:34am) (+Ryuujin) broek please state where i said that?
(02:15:35am) (+Angelos) JT's a legendary masser?
(02:15:36am) (+RobeSGW) makes it unsabbable
(02:15:38am) (+Ifrit) so really dont go on about that
(02:15:39am) (+Angelos) Where have I been?
(02:15:41am) (+Clarkey) i didn't say private, dioscuss and bicker in a thread on forums, then bring it in here once some sort of agreement or common ground is found. If you were jason why would you bother reading through all this?
(02:15:43am) (+caesar) sorry JT, dont be slefish... if anyone wants to its massable. not only you
(02:15:44am) (+Feri) exactly Ifrit it dropped in a turnish
(02:15:54am) (+Kjarkur) lol
(02:15:55am) (+Ryuujin) how robe
(02:15:57am) (~AdminHere) ok folks. i got a lot of catch up reading here :) and about 12 PMs to answser. If you need an answer, stay on chat for the next 30mins at least :)
(02:15:59am) (+Borek) so denying you can do it now Ryu?
(02:16:01am) (+Ifrit) cause the timming was perfect
(02:16:04am) (+caesar) its just a question if empire will pay itt, or card. thats all
(02:16:05am) (+DuckDodgers) amen clarkey
(02:16:08am) (~AdminHere) but for now I gotta close the meet off or I will never catch up :)
(02:16:15am) (+Tekki) lol bye bye Admin
(02:16:16am) (+Clarkey) told you
(02:16:21am) (+Ryuujin) dazaman was his standard 450m army in beta and sabbed through a 1q covert , adn dont tell me its differnt same stats on main same cov lvls same army size
(02:16:23am) (+Cyrus) bye admin
(02:16:25am) (+RoKeT) later Jason :)
(02:16:35am) (+DuckDodgers) Thanks for putting up with us AdminHere ^_^
(02:16:38am) (~AdminHere) so again, I am going to look at PMs now. and catch up on the meet chat that I missed...
(02:16:43am) (+Ifrit) later admin
(02:16:51am) (+Ryuujin) borek not once did i say i will mass feris defence , stop twisting peoples words.
(02:16:52am) (+JediTank) you didnt miss much Jason
(02:16:54am) (+caesar) Jason, i wrote you why i came today, just an idea, but wort reading.
(02:16:55am) (+Feri) hell daz sabbed my 500T def in beta nearly down
(02:16:55am) (+Cyrus) its been everytime that in meetings we discussed abt feri def and covert
(02:16:55am) (~AdminHere) thanks all!! sorry got a bit flooded this week :)
(02:17:02am) (~AdminHere) k caesar
(02:17:03am) (+Ryuujin) cya jason , later
(02:17:04am) (+Kjarkur) lol np Jason
(02:17:10am) (~AdminHere) alright -thanks again all!!
(02:17:11am) (+Borek) you claimed it was possible
(02:17:15am) —› (AdminHere) is now known as (adminCatchingUp)
Formerly known as Haz

Nine out of ten doctors recommend going to an amusement park this weekend.
The Tenth Doctor doesn't want to go.
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CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind ;)
Zeratul wrote:
Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".

that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...

Forced labor on the other hand........ :sge
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo

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*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
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i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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Re: Admin Meeting 03/06/2011 Meeting 2

(08:32:53am) (~adminCaughtUpNOWSTOPIT) ok :)
(08:32:59am) —› (adminCaughtUpNOWSTOPIT) is now known as (adminHere)
(08:33:05am) (+Tekki) welcome back adminHere
(08:33:09am) (+TheGrimReaper) good afternoon
(08:33:16am) (+Haz) wb adminHere
(08:33:21am) (+SuperSaiyan) sorry tekki, not this time >.>
(08:33:35am) (+Tekki) next time then
(08:33:39am) (+SuperSaiyan) perhaps
(08:33:41am) (+Tekki) or thetime after
(08:33:43am) (+Kikaz) yeah at rank 54 lowest descension hit I can get is rank 2,300 Tekki
(08:33:46am) (+Kikaz) so your right
(08:33:52am) (+Tekki) or one of the noobs
(08:33:55am) (+Tekki) I'm not picky
(08:34:08am) (+SuperSaiyan) k
(08:34:38am) (+Tekki) meh though I will miss the farms
(08:35:07am) (+Tekki) Anyway, proper thank you to Admin for putting in an out box on ascension for the pM system
(08:35:21am) (+TheGrimReaper) indeed, thanks admins
(08:35:24am) (+Tekki) if he could also look at the fact that blocking and unblocking people in main doesn't work that would be great :D
(08:36:09am) (~adminHere) ok here for real now :)
(08:36:19am) (~adminHere) http://demotivator.org/index.php/category/view/4211
(08:36:33am) (+Haz) lol
(08:36:38am) (+Kikaz) that already got fixed tek
(08:36:44am) (+Tekki) LOL
(08:36:56am) (+Haz) put that in your sig adminHere :P
(08:37:41am) (+Kikaz) [13:51:53] <~adminCatchingUp> 1) unblock now works[13:51:58] <~adminCatchingUp> 2) ascended now has an outbox[13:52:24] <~adminCatchingUp> 2ic/3ic bug solved this AM
(08:38:04am) (~adminHere) welcome on out box :)
(08:38:12am) (~adminHere) tekki -blocking/unblocking fixed too
(08:38:18am) (+Tekki) ah thank you :d
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(08:38:32am) (~adminHere) yes and 2ic/3ic :)
(08:38:33am) (~adminHere) been busy
(08:38:38am) (+Tekki) oh nice :D
(08:38:44am) (~adminHere) (i'm the one on the right haz)
(08:38:50am) (+Haz) thought so
(08:38:51am) (+Haz) :P
(08:39:14am) (+sol) good morning
(08:39:20am) (+TheGrimReaper) morning sol
(08:39:43am) (~adminHere) almost evening!
(08:39:46am) (+sol) finally some people are coming to the admin meets :P
(08:39:55am) (+TheGrimReaper) depends where you are adminHere
(08:40:13am) (+sol) so whats being discussed?
(08:40:36am) (+Haz) nothing yet
(08:40:45am) (~adminHere) well - we could talk forum :)
(08:40:48am) (~adminHere) plague...
(08:40:54am) (+sol) sure
(08:40:54am) (~adminHere) unmassable defs
(08:40:59am) (+Haz) lol
(08:41:01am) (~adminHere) pick on <insert target here>
(08:41:08am) (+sol) what was your idea of plague?
(08:41:10am) (~adminHere) $ spenders....
(08:41:17am) (~adminHere) 'its no fun anymore'
(08:41:19am) (+Tekki) plague is good atm
(08:41:24am) (+Nostra) you just want us to keep argueing amongst ourselves
(08:41:28am) (~adminHere) or 'i will get you all, just you wait'... :)
(08:41:31am) (~adminHere) lol
(08:41:34am) (+Haz) lol
(08:41:35am) (~adminHere) yer good at it!
(08:41:41am) (+sol) lol
(08:42:00am) (+Kikaz) blah J one more Quantum thing - turn change stuck now - Next Turn: 0 min
(08:42:25am) (~adminHere) lol
(08:42:39am) (+Nostra) Lets reset the beta server :D put everyone on 0 stats and start over and see how people react :D
(08:42:42am) (~adminHere) chking now
(08:42:49am) (+sol) i suppose you never got around to doing the ascended things admin? powerups multiplier and such?
(08:43:42am) (+Ifrit) lol sol
(08:43:46am) (+Ifrit) good point :P
(08:43:57am) (+Ifrit) acended could use some tweaks :)
(08:44:10am) (+Ifrit) yea im not against the money spending J
(08:44:15am) (+Ifrit) but it needs to be limited
(08:44:17am) (+Ifrit) imo
(08:44:18am) (+sol) admin has been doing them for like 2 weeks now XD
(08:44:24am) (~adminHere) ok turn shoudl be runnign now
(08:44:35am) (~adminHere) sol -got one ascended thing
(08:44:36am) (~adminHere) not all
(08:44:47am) (+Borek) i would like to see Money spending limited to in game cash market only, so at least the game/admin benefits, not players
(08:44:47am) (+sol) oh ok
(08:44:47am) (+Nostra) did you delete the cron job admin :P
(08:45:04am) (+Ifrit) yea should have a look at the rank 1 -248 cant be spied or deascended attacked please
(08:45:05am) (~adminHere) it does have limits ifrit - some areas more than others i guess though
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(08:45:08am) (+Tekki) there was suggestions to limit the amount that could be spent on the black market - or to limit it to say 5 times a week
(08:45:15am) (+Tekki) Morning ETL
(08:45:15am) (~adminHere) nostra -just overwrote it
(08:45:18am) (+Kikaz) still Next Turn: 0 min no UU or NAQ since 13:00
(08:45:21am) (+Ifrit) yea but also you should stamp out the player to player markey
(08:45:24am) (+Ifrit) market*
(08:45:34am) (+Ifrit) but also
(08:45:39am) (+sol) i thought spending the black market was limited?
(08:45:45am) (+Ifrit) i dont see how buying 300k ATs is limited Jason
(08:45:45am) (~adminHere) is
(08:45:49am) (+Ifrit) please explain?
(08:45:49am) (~adminHere) high limit though
(08:45:58am) (+Ifrit) lol
(08:45:59am) (+Nostra) lol happens, add a cron job at the end, to check if the other cronjobs are still there xD
(08:45:59am) (+Ifrit) ok
(08:46:18am) (+Tekki) lol oh yeah that did happen didn't it.
(08:46:19am) (+Ifrit) Im okay with it, long as I can buy and store 300k ATs :D
(08:46:19am) (~adminHere) :)
(08:46:30am) (+Ifrit) without cash that is :P
(08:46:39am) (~adminHere) tbh ifrit i'd allow much higher storage if it were not teh multi issues
(08:46:56am) (+EtL) d
(08:46:59am) (+Ifrit) yea I know, but that excuse has lost its flavor
(08:47:12am) (+Nostra) cant you make some nifty ingame tools to detect multies ? and give them powers to some known multi hunters ??
(08:47:13am) (+Ifrit) id think you would notice if someone was getting major amount of turns from several accounts?
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(08:47:19am) (+Ifrit) dont you have a flagging system?
(08:47:22am) (+Tekki) yeah sorry Admin someone did by 300k ATs :D
(08:48:22am) (+Ifrit) and 2 USS a week?? probably should be more like 1 :P IMO but okay 2 is fine, but UU for people over plague from USS/SS needs to change IMO
(08:48:28am) (+Borek) i'd like to see lower prices on the in game market to better compete with what players are charging for private trades, then a ban on spending apart from in game. That way you can have much more control over how much can be spent
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(08:48:53am) (+Tekki) can't always prove though what has been spent outside of the game though Borek though the idea is not too bad
(08:49:19am) (+Haz) EtL, everything working?
(08:49:28am) (+EtL) let's see
(08:49:37am) (+Haz) ok ignore my forum pm then :P
(08:49:37am) (+Borek) very true, it would not stamp it out, but it would limit it more, plus have more of the cash going through admin and not players
(08:49:37am) (+sol) sooo because f2p people dont buy at's we get limited because of multies?
(08:49:44am) (+Ifrit) well I did type something up that would help oversee it :)
(08:49:54am) (+Ifrit) would you like a link? :P
(08:50:30am) (+Ifrit) viewtopic.php?p=2307163#p2307163
(08:51:01am) (+sol) admins gone
(08:51:11am) (+Kikaz) he's working
(08:51:26am) (+Nostra) he's coding stuff too atm if I'm not mistaken
(08:51:42am) (+Ifrit) yes its fine :)
(08:51:44am) (+Kikaz) Quantum's been crashed for 3 hours he's trying to figure it out
(08:51:47am) (+Ifrit) I figured
(08:51:50am) (+Ifrit) ahh
(08:51:52am) (+Ifrit) yea
(08:51:53am) (+sol) ah kk
(08:51:56am) (+Ifrit) how is it this wave?
(08:52:09am) (+Kikaz) Decent so far
(08:52:15am) (+Nostra) lol, just read he overwrote the cronjob kicking in q's turn change mechanism xD
(08:52:19am) (+Ifrit) aoart from the crashes of course :P
(08:52:26am) (+Kikaz) first I've played in a year
(08:52:39am) (+Ifrit) ive never played it
(08:52:45am) (+Ifrit) though I did try chaos
(08:52:53am) (+Ifrit) did care for it
(08:52:55am) (+Kikaz) fell out of top 15 legends so guess I better play a wave and get back
(08:52:56am) (+Ifrit) didnt*
(08:53:10am) (+Kikaz) lol
(08:54:51am) (+Kikaz) lol @ chaos those two admins Heph and Virgil completly frogot about it, it was supposed to reset a month ago now and still ticking
(08:55:02am) (+Tekki) LOL
(08:55:05am) (+Kikaz) took me 5 days of playing to get into top 10
(08:55:17am) (+Ifrit) lol
(08:55:26am) (+Ifrit) yea its not that good to be honest
(08:55:40am) (+Ifrit) though it has been quiet a few waves since I played :P
(08:55:46am) (+Kikaz) and not even really playing either I made maybe 10 hits a day so thats really sad
(08:56:05am) (+Ifrit) lol
(08:56:09am) (~adminHere) ok sorry - Q is acting up :(
(08:56:10am) (+Ifrit) yea its a botched game
(08:56:12am) (+Kikaz) I played first 2 waves when J still ran it, heph and virg killed it
(08:56:28am) (~adminHere) oh - chaos? that was crazy back in the day
(08:56:38am) (+Kikaz) fun though :p
(08:56:40am) (~adminHere) it got complicated even by my standards :)
(08:56:46am) (+sol) eh he's back
(08:56:46am) (~adminHere) ya was fun
(08:56:51am) (+EtL) feg7
(08:56:58am) (+sol) cool beans
(08:57:07am) (+Ifrit) read above when you get the chance admin :)
(08:57:12am) (~adminHere) doing now after PM
(08:57:14am) (+Haz) linked him in pm Ifrit :P
(08:57:24am) (+Ifrit) thanks Haz :)
(08:57:30am) (+EtL) always stuck..this chat can't handle me
(08:57:34am) (+Haz) didnt want it to get lost in the scrolling
(08:57:42am) (+Ifrit) your to awesome for IRC ETL :D
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(08:57:47am) (+Haz) mirc or the game link?
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(08:57:53am) (+Haz) mirc or the game link?
(08:58:22am) (+EtL) both
(08:58:31am) (+Haz) :S
(08:58:36am) (+Kikaz) firewall?
(08:58:42am) (+Haz) firewall or isp?
(08:58:53am) (+Haz) wait a sec....
(08:58:54am) (+Nostra) crap computer ?
(08:58:58am) • +Haz runs off to check something
(08:59:01am) (+Kikaz) lol
(08:59:01am) (+Ifrit) wouldnt those issues not allow him to come on at all?
(08:59:17am) (+Nostra) mines most plausible
(08:59:31am) (+Haz) try reconnecting on port 8080 EtL
(08:59:44am) (+Haz) we *should* have that open
(09:00:11am) (+Nostra) not realy advised for irc's alternative port though
(09:00:16am) (+sol) is he using the old or new irc?
(09:00:34am) (+Haz) we opened that one for users wanting to be on irc yet being blocked
(09:01:09am) (+Haz) port 8080 is a common education proxy (well at least is in australia) so the education department keep 8080 unblocked
(09:01:19am) (+Nostra) then its a rather primitive block, deent block disabled the entire irc communication protocol if I'm not mistaken
(09:01:24am) (+Borek) i blame Feri, it's national blame Feri day after all :S
(09:01:41am) (+Nostra) decent*
(09:01:55am) (+Nostra) feri's defence in the way again ????
(09:02:04am) (+Tekki) is someone being mean to ETL?
(09:02:07am) (+Haz) this is the education department we're talking about
(09:02:24am) (+TheGrimReaper) feri's defence is keeping etl from irc?
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(09:02:34am) (+Ifrit) lol
(09:02:35am) (+Nostra) he even ran from it
(09:02:42am) (+TheGrimReaper) blasphemy
(09:02:43am) (+Nostra) quick !! check in game if he even went on ppt
(09:02:59am) (+Nostra) ó¿Ò
(09:03:13am) (+TheGrimReaper) etl never runs away, he just runs round to attack from a different direction
(09:03:23am) (+Haz) ive had the IT admins at my old school go into a rage because of the "stupidity of the education department" with their "amatuer IT admins hired to set things up" :P
(09:04:35am) (+Nostra) lol, depands on the people behind the keys as usual .... I always say, a computer works as well as the one using has understanding of it.
(09:04:56am) (+Ifrit) indeed Nostra
(09:05:00am) (+Haz) indeed
(09:05:10am) (+Haz) pebkac :P
(09:06:53am) (+TheGrimReaper) i'd consider myself a semi-pro amateur techie
(09:07:10am) (+TheGrimReaper) you should see my set up
(09:07:52am) (+TheGrimReaper) well at the moment, it's 4 towers in the hallway while my studio is being painted :)
(09:08:37am) (+Ifrit) :)
(09:08:50am) (+Nostra) :)I used to have lots of servers running
(09:08:55am) (+Tekki) much quieter meeting
(09:08:58am) (+TheGrimReaper) it should be 4 towers, 3 monitors, 2 laptops and a mac mini
(09:09:02am) (+Haz) lol nice
(09:09:07am) (+Tekki) AdminHere, have a great weekend and week :)
(09:09:08am) (+TheGrimReaper) no to mention the audio stuff
(09:09:08am) (+Nostra) till I did end of the yar calculations of power consumption versus my elecrtrical bill
(09:09:28am) (+sol) it is tekki
(09:09:35am) (+Nostra) in effect, this is a nice approach to estimate costs of a server running
(09:09:44am) (+Nostra) if you have a server running a whole year
(09:09:51am) (+Kikaz) last meet one of his servers wasn't down lol
(09:09:59am) (+Nostra) you can take the average watts usage and call that euros per year
(09:10:46am) (+Nostra) so, I had three 600 watts server running, and a few smaller towers .. next to the rest of my electrical junk ...
(09:11:07am) (+TheGrimReaper) 600euros for each server? :P
(09:11:15am) (+Nostra) for each year
(09:11:22am) (+Nostra) yeah full time running
(09:11:53am) (+TheGrimReaper) sweet
(09:11:55am) (+TheGrimReaper) thanks for that
(09:11:56am) (+Nostra) been using only two laptops since last year and holy damn that make a huge difference :P was thinking of buying an even better laptop from the money saved >.<
(09:12:06am) (+TheGrimReaper) although none are on all the time
(09:13:40am) (~adminHere) ok sorry PM and quantum issues
(09:13:53am) (+Nostra) you do it on purpose ;)
(09:14:00am) (+Ifrit) hehe
(09:14:07am) (+Haz) he cant handle our awesomeness :P
(09:14:18am) (+Ifrit) after the day he had today I think we can let it slip this time :P
(09:14:25am) (+Haz) lol
(09:14:29am) (+Nostra) :)
(09:14:57am) (~adminHere) i do: <+Nostra> cant you make some nifty ingame tools to detect multies ? and give them powers to some known multi hunters ??
(09:15:18am) (+sol) really?
(09:15:23am) (+Nostra) sweet :)
(09:15:32am) (+Haz) Ifrit, dont let him off easily :P demand resources as compensation :P
(09:15:38am) (+Ifrit) :P
(09:15:44am) (+Ifrit) yea glare :P
(09:15:47am) (~adminHere) and in general: if i try to control somehitng; someone finds a way around it :)
(09:15:47am) (+Haz) haha
(09:15:48am) (+Ifrit) I need a 3t MS
(09:15:53am) (+Ifrit) then we call it even xD
(09:16:19am) (+sol) lol
(09:16:40am) (+sol) cookies ftw admin
(09:16:53am) (+sol) dont bother with ip's
(09:16:58am) (+Ifrit) yea thats true, as I said it wont stop it fulll steam
(09:17:10am) (+Ifrit) but it would reduce it by a lot
(09:17:32am) (+sol) so as soon as we get these multies sorted we are aloud to hold 300k at's?
(09:17:40am) (+Ifrit) lol
(09:18:00am) (+sol) i was serious :S
(09:18:01am) (+Ifrit) would be nice eh?
(09:18:05am) (+Nostra) I'd think ... that would solve quitea bit of multies too
(09:18:17am) (+Haz) perhaps something like if someone suspects a multi, they can use a form to submit the names, the form comes back with "potential multi" or "no multi activity detected"
(09:18:37am) (+Haz) then can be forwarded onto forums or an admins email?
(09:18:45am) (~adminHere) ascended took a run at quantum is what happened :)
(09:19:00am) (+Ifrit) so do you purpose that cash buyers are only allowed 10k ATs then?
(09:19:18am) (+Nostra) ingame tools: ip checker for ID ranges, pattern recognition in logs, able to force yourself to become a suspects Co so you can see their stats etc
(09:19:21am) (+Nostra) that kind of tools :)
(09:19:38am) (~adminHere) i am not against more turns being able to be held. will think on it
(09:20:03am) (+sol) what ifrit neva! $$ spenders should rule the game foreva
(09:20:07am) (~adminHere) nostra -you even check the 'global logs' on qunatum?
(09:20:09am) (+Ifrit) well, do you think non-cash spenders should have somewhat of an equal footing or benift as a cash spender?
(09:20:10am) (+sol) 300k AT's for all of them
(09:20:11am) (+Borek) i could see 25k being a reasonable limit for non-cash spenders
(09:20:33am) (+Nostra) havent tried quantum
(09:20:35am) (+sol) why should they be able to hold more when they can already get them out of thin air?
(09:21:12am) (+Ifrit) and the ATs are meh, what is more important
(09:21:21am) (+Borek) maybe keep the broker limit still at 10k, so you can't use brokers to potentially store up to 100k
(09:21:26am) (+Ifrit) is that USS/SS dont give you UU when you are at or over the plague
(09:22:04am) (+Ifrit) and if you are under and buy you only get UU to the plague the rest turn into ATs
(09:22:31am) (+Ifrit) at least imo
(09:22:40am) (+Ifrit) just some thoughts is all :)
(09:22:46am) (+sol) how about UU convert to AT/naq?
(09:22:52am) (+Ifrit) yea
(09:23:10am) (+Ifrit) would prefer ATs so that the player has to spend them or sell them, at least its effort
(09:23:17am) (+Ifrit) and not handed over resources
(09:23:46am) (+Nostra) personal turns, he needs to use them
(09:23:49am) (+Kikaz) could add IPs into alliance logs simmiliar to global logs in Q and upgrade it to past 5 days
(09:24:03am) (+Ifrit) oh thats a great idea kikaz
(09:24:30am) (~adminHere) hte sysetm seem sto work ok
(09:25:05am) (~adminHere) ok folks... coming pu on an hour!
(09:25:07am) (+Ifrit) and for the love of god, ban proxies
(09:25:10am) (+Haz) IP would be bad
(09:25:16am) (~adminHere) so busy. i still wan tot know which one of you borked quantum ;)
(09:25:20am) (+Haz) many people would worry about privacy
(09:25:27am) (+TheGrimReaper) me!
(09:25:29am) (~adminHere) the IP on Q uses a 'mask'
(09:25:31am) (+TheGrimReaper) >.>
(09:25:34am) (+Haz) hostmask?
(09:25:37am) (+Haz) like on here?
(09:25:41am) (~adminHere) seriously login and look :)
(09:25:45am) (~adminHere) its free ;)
(09:26:00am) (~adminHere) alrighty -- going once...
(09:26:07am) (~adminHere) thanks for the time nad energy everyone..wore me out!
(09:26:11am) (+Kikaz) It might have really been me I was the one farming most at the time o_O
(09:26:21am) • ~adminHere compares sgw collective to 'olivia'
(09:26:24am) (+Kikaz) anyways thanks for the time :D
(09:26:34am) (+Nostra) lol, well thanks
(09:26:35am) (~adminHere) going twice.
(09:26:36am) (+Ifrit) thank you admin :)
(09:26:40am) (+Haz) where is it? lol
(09:26:45am) (+Ifrit) have a good weekend and week
(09:26:45am) (~adminHere) alright - runs
(09:26:52am) (~adminHere) http://quantumgate.gatewars.com
(09:26:53am) (+Kikaz) base page under stats Haz
(09:26:56am) (+Kikaz) Global Attack logs
(09:27:06am) (+Haz) galactic?
(09:27:15am) (+Kikaz) oh yeah
(09:27:18am) (~adminHere) alrighty - thanks again all!! !here's to a mroe stable world!
(09:27:21am) —› (adminHere) is now known as (adminGone)
Formerly known as Haz

Nine out of ten doctors recommend going to an amusement park this weekend.
The Tenth Doctor doesn't want to go.
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CC Leader: n haz thsi time it wasnt ur fault
Bralor wrote:hey haz how long do you estimate until someone blames you and masses HVE again?
Field Marshall wrote:On a seperate issue - where is Haz? He's the glue we really need right now!
SuperSaiyan wrote:I'm a staff member so naturally I'm used to unjustified abusive commentary, so really I don't mind ;)
Zeratul wrote:
Ĕɱƿŷ wrote:So I heard that when becoming a moderator you are subjected to hours and hours of "The Forum is good, the Forum is great, we surrender our will as of this date".

that is incorrect... nothing resembling prostration...

Forced labor on the other hand........ :sge
SuperSaiyan says (2:04 PM):
*that was kernal potter
*colonel
*wow I just made that typo

SuperSaiyan says (2:05 PM):
*no one will speak of this
*or I take muff's veggies away
*and he starves
Hope says (2:59 AM):
*hypothetically, how bad would it be if i descended someone... but forgot to Godquest them first, and they're active, and in an active alliance...
Hope says (3:00 AM):
*hypothetically...
Murris says (3:00 AM):
*ah **Filtered** why am i descended....
Angnoch Freddie says:
i hate being a mod...
i just wanted the blue color XD
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