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Re: Era 24
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:49 pm
by Ace1102
High Empty wrote:adding in 2 more supporter status bonus, where you can only select one option once.
I still think that takes away a huge piece of the strategy.
High Empty wrote:Turn limit based on Ascensions.
Every ascension you can store an extra 250 turns?
OR perhaps each ascension gives you a greater AT generation/turn
Depending on where the AT cap is sitting, if the cap is lifted this era AT generation/turn seems more desireable, otherwise higher cap with each ascension.
Oh and I'd also like to know where we stand on miner untraining costs resetting at each ascension.
EDIT:
Actually, It will probably be insignificant anyway.
Untraining Miners
There is still a cost to untraining miners, but it is less than last era. The cost to untrain is: (era age in days) x (era age in days) x 5
So if the era is 90 days old, 90x90x5 = 40,500 / miner to untrain.
Great work admin, everything looks good
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:39 am
by Apogryph
hmmmm... this wave looks alot more interesting than the last one... might be worth giving it a good go... time will tell
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:27 am
by ph30nix
feeders and ascension is gonna get ugly depending how they play.
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:29 am
by Dr. Daniel Jackson
Toyed around a bit, and so far I like it
usually I fall inactive after a week or two. Hopefully this time will be different
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:46 am
by Apogryph
ph30nix wrote:feeders and ascension is gonna get ugly depending how they play.
maybe, maybe not... people building silly stats early on will suffer alot later on... will have to time ascensions, etc very well to minimise losses
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:50 am
by ph30nix
Apogryph wrote:ph30nix wrote:feeders and ascension is gonna get ugly depending how they play.
maybe, maybe not... people building silly stats early on will suffer alot later on... will have to time ascensions, etc very well to minimise losses
if players like you and hippy and such take this wave 100% serious and decide to get fed again
side not
Admin we are going to need to have something like ascension where you can set how numbers show (millions, billions, trillions etc etc)
cause the #'s this wave are going to get astronomical.
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:58 am
by HippyFool
If I am calculating this right... the ascension from 29-30 (for whoever is quick enough to get there first .. if they can afford it) will cost...
171,798,691,840,000 naq (171tril) and all their stats will be....
1,073,741,824 times bigger than normal... for example a normal 1tril defense for them would actually be....
1,073,741,824,000,000,000,000 compared to the level 29 people whos 1tril defense would only be...
536,870,912,000,000,000,000 ... so yes, if someone does actually make it to level 30 they will win (unless they have no UU left lol)
and no, dont ask me how what those numbers are called.
Please correct me if my maths is wrong
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:10 am
by [BoT] Jason
And this is all before tech's...Jason your game is gonna time out with all the numbers.
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:01 am
by ph30nix
well even if they only have ONE turn worth of UU
each UU is going to be worth 1,073,741,824,
i dont remember exactly but basicly 1 miner is going to product That number X there normal production....
so that 171 tril cost is going to be irrelevant, for some reason im thinking its 200 naq per turn per miner.
so at level 30 it would take about 800 miner to make up that naq IN ONE TURN.
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:11 am
by [BoT] Jason
1200 naq a miner....So thats 1200*2^29
644,245,000,000 per a miner
644,245,000,000*500,000=322,122,500,000,000,000 a turn...Essentially farming will become useless and turns would be traded for miners?
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:23 am
by ph30nix
im thinking admins going to lower to top ascension level and make it cost more
think ill duck over to beta and see whats going on
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:20 am
by Apogryph
ph30nix wrote:Apogryph wrote:ph30nix wrote:feeders and ascension is gonna get ugly depending how they play.
maybe, maybe not... people building silly stats early on will suffer alot later on... will have to time ascensions, etc very well to minimise losses
if players like you and hippy and such take this wave 100% serious and decide to get fed again
side not
Admin we are going to need to have something like ascension where you can set how numbers show (millions, billions, trillions etc etc)
cause the #'s this wave are going to get astronomical.
not sure if im even going to play it out, but i wont bother getting fed, might sell naq tho if i get bored
numbers are a bit disturbing tho, but it could be interesting. time will tell
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:52 am
by Forum
max untrain miner cost is 90*90*5 = 40,500 (opposed to last era which was 3.6M)
"adding in 2 more supporter status bonus, where you can only select one option once. ???" what do you mean, do you have an example?
So that's 5% of max techs. -- so if max tech is 1000 and i have 10, i can get 50 by the tech bonus? and if you have 1000 you also get 50 ?
Every ascension you can store an extra 250 turns? hmmm...i cannot see why not the extra bonus for ascending
High Empty wrote:ok so unsure
There should be a Cap on untraining miners
500,000 to 1,000,000 naq
Plus
adding in 2 more supporter status bonus, where you can only select one option once.
Changing/fixing one of the tech options to add 5% techs instead of +5 techs. So that's 5% of max techs.
Turn limit based on Ascensions.
Every ascension you can store an extra 250 turns?
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:57 am
by Forum
highly possible
maybe 12 tops...have to redo the names though
-- this would be 4096x more powerful than non-ascended.
hmm....
ph30nix wrote:im thinking admins going to lower to top ascension level and make it cost more
think ill duck over to beta and see whats going on
Re: Era 24
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:58 am
by Mercury Rising
Is it just me, or are you all obsessed with numbers haha