EDIT - Solution to PPT/Descension abuse

[Kjarkur]

Few alliances have come together now noticing a certain alliance (mostly 1 account in that particular alliance) catching almost all ascended PPT's - basically what they do is descend someone then catch the missed PPT's for the DMU that builds up while descended.
In a way nothing wrong with that, ingame feature - problem is how can someone be so fast that when 18 people + try to catch that missed PPT knowing the turn it drops, the same person catches it over and over again and has for a while now. That account has gotten huge upgrades over this time.
When a group of people noticed what was wrong and teamed up to try and catch this PPT before this certain player, he got the DMU before the turn-generated DMU appeared on that account ... (Has happened several times - this should not be possible and we have collected a lot of data on this)


From Rodwolf

The problem is 'simpler' fixed by just not giving PPT after the 14 day cool off period.

Again, why do people receive PPT on a server where no one can acquire a ppt in a normal way?

I'm pretty sure people can 'prepare' to come back during that 14 days. It seems long enough for me at least to know whats coming. If your active at least... but why give ppt to inactives anyway

Edit: Alternative measures - a cap on how much DMU you can get per hit.

Revolution button - Rejected.

-KJ

[~Dä Vinci~]

they now drop randomly with 24 hours to stop this, i think sol changed it

[Z E R O]

yeah its good now let it be.

revolution will just wreck farms ><

[R0B3RT]

is not to easy to stop generate DMU until player log in?

[reborn]

1 **Anonymous** TOLAH 540,767,424,398,693,312

Maybe be random yet the same Tolah for the last 6 weeks has been at the top between 450-700 quad everyday for that may weeks.

Still think its balanced or not a bit iffy? When so many ppl attacking same target yet still p/much the same one getting it again an again?

Taking Guilded planets back down to 7 bil will not wreak farms infact it will stop all these big accounts being deascended an all that dmu going to just 1 person.

Most of the farms that get farmed all the time are around 7 bil planets or less. Only the ones other that are the ones being deascended all the time.

Tbh I think its a great idea to bring some balance back to ascension instead of a certain someone/s taking all the missed ppts to themselves with there oh so fast fast fast reactions ("not using a script") to snag all the ppts.

Reborn

[Gandy 181]

I reckon

it would just be better to stop the growth of DMU

when in Decended form

but i like this idea two

[Kjarkur]

I reckon

it would just be better to stop the growth of DMU

when in Decended form

but i like this idea two

The idea can be 'tweaked' or changed - regardless, balance is required.

My post is merely a suggestion, and we as a community can go with it and brainstorm a bit to fix this problem.

-KJ

[ƒëmmë]

maybe a capped amount of dmu for a ppt or capped dmu hit.. so gives others a chance to get some of it??

You need to make an income to repair/build up while decended ppt otherwise someone can keep you permently decended if they so wished

[Rodwolf]

The problem is 'simpler' fixed by just not giving PPT after the 14 day cool off period.

Again, why do people receive PPT on a server where no one can acquire a ppt in a normal way?

I'm pretty sure people can 'prepare' to come back during that 14 days. It seems long enough for me at least to know whats coming. If your active at least... but why give ppt to inactives anyway

[Kjarkur]

The problem is 'simpler' fixed by just not giving PPT after the 14 day cool off period.

Again, why do people receive PPT on a server where no one can acquire a ppt in a normal way?

I'm pretty sure people can 'prepare' to come back during that 14 days. It seems long enough for me at least to know whats coming. If your active at least... but why give ppt to inactives anyway

Excellent point Rod.

maybe a capped amount of dmu for a ppt or capped dmu hit.. so gives others a chance to get some of it??

You need to make an income to repair/build up while decended ppt otherwise someone can keep you permently decended if they so wished

a cap is worth looking into IMO.

[Juliette]

It is already the case now that people only produce DMU while on PPT (the random 48-ish hours at the end of one's descension, not the actual descension time), so there will be no more 'extreme' DMU hits in that regard.
In addition, the end of their PPT is randomised (within reason, and obviously visible to the descendee), so descending someone doesn't provide the descender with much information (other than a 'general idea', which everyone who keeps a proper eye on the server has as well).

This balancing has been done - quite recently (within the past 14 days) -, so there is no further need at this point to re-balance yet again.



In addition to that, bringing back 'Initiate Revolution' would be like bringing a shotgun to go mosquito-hunting.

[Caprila]

viewtopic.php?f=39&t=201120

You can still deascend for profit, just less than before. The person that did the deascension, knows, with a ~2 hour window or so, when the drop will be. Chances are he'll still get it. The 300q hits may no longer be dropping, but 60q is still more than worth it.

Would revolution be used much? Dmu is what we use to grow after all, and it is not as these inactive farms will retrain their income. I suppose some would use it, just to stem the growth of the rest of the server.

Deascension ppts are like it or not, a part of the game. Deascend your own farms, or try a different technique in clicking faster.

After all, how a player grows in the game, is his own business, whether that be through $$, farming, or deascensions.

[Unsterblich]

i would love to be descended just for the DMU gain and be easier than to look for good 300T plus farms to stay in the top ranks.
and my opinion as being descended is no resource gain instead of growing bigger and not getting farmed for 14 days.
whats the point in descending someone. kills is not the only reason for descending someone as it is to stop the player from growing that 14 days. all resources should be terminated for that period.

[reborn]

You can deascend ppl for profit, hell I didn't deascend ppl an I still knew around when ppl was going to drop an I have told others over the past weeks of the times of them too, i still know quite a few others, an even new ones too around about to a certain hr.

Yet only 1 gets them, hell me an a few others have noticed the dmu going before even the attack buttons showing so yes we all need to learn to "click faster"

All the PPT dropping a few seconds before the turn over, wasn't it meant to be done on the turn over?

I guess this doesn't need fixing or balancing out its all fine nothing going on wrong here. "I call b/s"

[IFLuX]

2 Unseen Threat INDU 286,319,000,571,237,536

I have 8k turns which i can use ... and he's prolly farming with multy and trading over aswell