AUTO BAN AND PPT'S

[jedi~tank]

Admin crew, lets get some consitency about these autoban resets and ppt's afterwards. Please..

On 1 hand you have players staying banned for over a week and sometimes 2 and another player gets unban an hour after. Also either everyone gets a ppt upon reset or NOBODY does. Do I need to mention names here? I dont think so. Just make this **Filtered** fair across the board for **Filtered** sake.

[~wolverine~]

ya admin crew come on, its lost people weeks and if not months of stuff which they have to wait weeks to get unbanned. Perhaps spend a little more time checking forums and emails people send you.

~Wolve

[Clarkey]

Also either everyone gets a ppt upon reset or NOBODY does. Do I need to mention names here? I dont think so. Just make this **Filtered** fair across the board for **Filtered** sake.

No you don't need to mention names because we know who you are talking about.

You may not have noticed but there have been issues recently with PPT, this may have had an effect on PPT after autoban. I have never known anyone to be unbanned without a PPT, this could have easily been a game error. If it was an admin that forgot, then they are only human.

I understand that the length of time waiting to be unbanned can be frustrating, and often if it happens after Friday meet then you may have a lengthy wait as opposed to someone who gets banned on Thursday or Friday for example. Your request for consistency in handling auto bans is fair, but there is no need for foul language, even if it is filtered.

[jedi~tank]

My reason for posting is simple..one of my guys was autoban as per the usual negative naq deal..for over a week and a message was sent immediatly..when he was inbanned at the odd hour he had units exposed which were subsequently killed off, allot..today an opponent gets autoban for the same..they get unban within an hour and a PPT..this is No evading filter. My guy deserves his losses back and immediately.

[Clarkey]

My reason for posting is simple..one of my guys was autoban as per the usual negative naq deal..for over a week and a message was sent immediatly..when he was inbanned at the odd hour he had units exposed which were subsequently killed off, allot..today an opponent gets autoban for the same..they get unban within an hour and a PPT..this is No evading filter. My guy deserves his losses back and immediately.

Your request for consistency in unbanning times, although fair is unrealistic. Do you sit at your emails 24/7?

adminSue is but one person and cannot be expected to deal with autobans immediately on every single occasion. Some people may be lucky and get autobanned just as she is checking her emails. And as for the PPT, it may have been a simple mistake, yes a bad one, but a mistake nonetheless.

If I am correct in thinking you are speaking about R0B3RT who recently got unbanned without a PPT, he was banned on Thursday, which was 2 days ago?

[jedi~tank]

If you tards spent as much time moding these forums as you do arguing with players over ingame **Filtered** this might be ok one day..my guy got **Filtered** over, I dont care what the reason is we want it corrected, no need to come in and spam yet ANOTHER thread with an argument on someone else's behalf, and take your warning and shove it up your ass.

[Clarkey]

If you tards spent as much time moding these forums as you do arguing with players over ingame **Filtered** this might be ok one day..my guy got **Filtered** over, I dont care what the reason is we want it corrected, no need to come in and spam yet ANOTHER thread with an argument on someone else's behalf, and take your warning and shove it up your ass.

I will forward this ban/PPT issue on to adminSue myself, regardless of the fact that you show no respect towards myself or adminSue whatsoever.

And next time you have such a complaint/demand please don't over-exaggerate. Everyone knows Rob3rt was banned for 2-3 days, not over a week.

[R0B3RT]

i lost 4 duall
The forth 126,504,400,000 Additional Attack 4,791,435,960,000 defence
180,243,840,000 Additional Defence
The one 125,732,480,000 Income per Day 4,385,900,880,000 defence
125,598,800,000 Additional Attack

The second + 101,871,200,000 Attack 3,010,318,200,000 defence
+ 120,328,000,000 Defence

love love 120,207,550,000 Additional Attack 0 defence
130,261,920,000 Additional Defence

[Clarkey]

i lost 4 duall
The forth 126,504,400,000 Additional Attack 4,791,435,960,000 defence
180,243,840,000 Additional Defence
The one 125,732,480,000 Income per Day 4,385,900,880,000 defence
125,598,800,000 Additional Attack

The second + 101,871,200,000 Attack 3,010,318,200,000 defence
+ 120,328,000,000 Defence

love love 120,207,550,000 Additional Attack 0 defence
130,261,920,000 Additional Defence

I will include that in my email to adminSue so that she knows exactly what you lost.

[R0B3RT]

thx

[Clarkey]

thx

You are very welcome.

[MEZZANINE]

Does the PPT / No PPT after autoban relate to if you have any PPT/Market turns left ?

Would a better solution be rather than PPT after auto-ban, leave the account frozen in limbo ( rank 0 ) until it is logged into ( Logging in to re-activate account ) ?

I see as well as the problem with these duals being lost from an 'unwanted' autoban, there is also the issue of people being accused of getting a deliberate autoban to protect stats when they cant PPT or vacation. Not sure how you fix that one.


This use / abuse of the autoban script seriously need looking into. Is there no way to prevent negative naq altogether, add an extra line of script that simply rounds up all negative values to zero and sends a 'red flag' to admin to look at later ?




As for compensation, Brother in FS had this problem over a year ago, he lost a dual that he actually paid for ( $50 ) and almost quit the game over it, he was never compensated and Im sure many others have taken similar losses without compensation so much as I dont like to see anyone friend or enemy lose out this way, it would not be fair to compensate someone now when so many have not been in the past.

[minisaiyan]

i like mezz's suggestion.

[xDaku]

Does the PPT / No PPT after autoban relate to if you have any PPT/Market turns left ?

Would a better solution be rather than PPT after auto-ban, leave the account frozen in limbo ( rank 0 ) until it is logged into ( Logging in to re-activate account ) ?

I see as well as the problem with these duals being lost from an 'unwanted' autoban, there is also the issue of people being accused of getting a deliberate autoban to protect stats when they cant PPT or vacation. Not sure how you fix that one.


This use / abuse of the autoban script seriously need looking into. Is there no way to prevent negative naq altogether, add an extra line of script that simply rounds up all negative values to zero and sends a 'red flag' to admin to look at later ?




As for compensation, Brother in FS had this problem over a year ago, he lost a dual that he actually paid for ( $50 ) and almost quit the game over it, he was never compensated and Im sure many others have taken similar losses without compensation so much as I dont like to see anyone friend or enemy lose out this way, it would not be fair to compensate someone now when so many have not been in the past.

I like the limbo idea, an improvement on that would be to give a 2-3 hour PPT after the first login, this gives enough time to merlin whatever needs to be merlined, fix anything that needs fixing etc. Also, any and all war settings or peace settings or anything of the sort should be extended for the time period the ban was for, this gets rid of any reason to "force autobans" if it's being done.

[Clarkey]

Does the PPT / No PPT after autoban relate to if you have any PPT/Market turns left ?

No it does not. Everyone gets PPT after autoban is lifted, but the human race do make mistakes from time to time.

Would a better solution be rather than PPT after auto-ban, leave the account frozen in limbo ( rank 0 ) until it is logged into ( Logging in to re-activate account ) ?

It is a good idea and has merit, but then I can also see people complaining that they lose even more resources because the account is put in vac-like state. One of those, 'you can't please everyone situations'.

I see as well as the problem with these duals being lost from an 'unwanted' autoban, there is also the issue of people being accused of getting a deliberate autoban to protect stats when they cant PPT or vacation. Not sure how you fix that one.

How to fix that one? You can't, because opposing sides will always find the slightest thing to accuse the other side of. Guess what, the recent accusation that Feri abused the autoban has only come about since Rob3rt lost his 4 duals because he didn't get given PPT. If that hadn't happened then no-one would be accusing Feri of wrong-doing.

As for compensation, Brother in FS had this problem over a year ago, he lost a dual that he actually paid for ( $50 ) and almost quit the game over it, he was never compensated and Im sure many others have taken similar losses without compensation so much as I dont like to see anyone friend or enemy lose out this way, it would not be fair to compensate someone now when so many have not been in the past.

If the problem happened as a direct result of the game or game admin, which in this case it was by the looks of it, then everything lost should be compensated for.

I like the limbo idea, an improvement on that would be to give a 2-3 hour PPT after the first login, this gives enough time to merlin whatever needs to be merlined, fix anything that needs fixing etc.

This is also a good idea.

But lets face it, this PPT after autoban was never an issue until this one occasion, and suddenly because of this one occasion the game admins are accused of being unfair and inconsistent.