Its crap, fix it

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Re: Its crap, fix it

Lord_Zeus wrote:Are they my stats? :lol:


Could be but since theres like 20ppl who do it its anyones guess..
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~Phoenix~ wrote:
Lord_Zeus wrote:Are they my stats? :lol:


Could be but since theres like 20ppl who do it its anyones guess..


They're my exact stats lol. :-D
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Re: Its crap, fix it

Lore wrote:
secret unknown dude wrote:could someone care to explain what a "sniper" account is?

i have never heard of it..


I give you an example

Total Capacities
Offensive Potential: 41,915,066,583,168
Defensive Potential 2,833,142,400
Covert Capacity: 5,564,784,375
Assassin Capacity: 20,287,428,361
Influence Power: 716,730,056,250
Cosmic Exploration Fleets: 130,000

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Assult: 570
Defence: 175
Intelligence 275
Assassination 329
Production 400


This is a account that is forming up to be a sniper account. You will notice the extremely high assault enhancement, coupled with high Cosmic Expantion Rate enhancements. This allows him to pack a punch and be able to afford the loses. You will also notice he has next to no defense when compared to his strike. He does not try to live off his income. He is building this account to live off others income. This stratagy also gives the victim no chance to retaliate. If they are really good they use all untrainable planets and then untrain them afterwards so there is nothing to kill. Weapons are so cheap that they matter little now.

Some other points to note is they generally keep a low NMEC so they remain undeascendable. They can use their strikes to farm enough DMU to completely fill all there LF/LFR in 1 hit.

While normally growing accounts attempt to grow evenly or perportonally, these account go straight att. This allows them to out pace everyone else as the LF cost to inprove only ATT and CER are far less then trying to improve them all. Since Ascended attacks are useless against them they do not build any of those stats.

It is a viable tactic, Jason has made sure these accounts are well protected. He has also given them means to destroy any account in the game. What he has chosen not to do is to allow anyone to defend these accounts.

Personally I feel he has cheaped the game drasticly, but its his game so meh.


ahh tyvm for your time and effort.. i should of done this.. oh well. im happy with my ascended acc..
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~Phoenix~ wrote:
Lord_Zeus wrote:Are they my stats? :lol:


Could be but since theres like 20ppl who do it its anyones guess..


They're my exact stats lol. :-D



Fair enough :)
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secret unknown dude wrote:ahh tyvm for your time and effort.. i should of done this.. oh well. im happy with my ascended acc..



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secret unknown dude wrote:ahh tyvm for your time and effort.. i should of done this.. oh well. im happy with my ascended acc..



If you wanted to be massed all the time I can arrange it?


That guy sounds like he wants to be de-ascended, kind of. Wishing he had played like that instead of properly.

Sniper accounts are damn low. How hard is it to play the game properly? You can make yourself mostly invulnerable just by building your accounts. You don't catch up to the big players by sitting on your laurels.
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No offence guys, but playing ordinarily will get you nowhere in a decent time, sure over 6 months you may catch up a bit, to give you some idea though I've increased my CER 7x in about a week from snipering. Now obviously this rate of growth is going to slow down because of the higher prices for fleets etc... but its very profitable.
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Re: Its crap, fix it

Lord_Zeus wrote:No offence guys, but playing ordinarily will get you nowhere in a decent time, sure over 6 months you may catch up a bit, to give you some idea though I've increased my CER 7x in about a week from snipering. Now obviously this rate of growth is going to slow down because of the higher prices for fleets etc... but its very profitable.



He is absolutely correct. It is the best way to grow in ascended. Hands down.
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Lord_Zeus wrote:No offence guys, but playing ordinarily will get you nowhere in a decent time, sure over 6 months you may catch up a bit, to give you some idea though I've increased my CER 7x in about a week from snipering. Now obviously this rate of growth is going to slow down because of the higher prices for fleets etc... but its very profitable.


So? You think people didn't have to work hard to get to where they are without the tactic that you are using? There should be some available method to ensure that the bigger accounts can hit back at the smaller. Does this kind of thing happen on the main server, with smallish players farming accounts like STI?
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Finarfin wrote:
Lord_Zeus wrote:No offence guys, but playing ordinarily will get you nowhere in a decent time, sure over 6 months you may catch up a bit, to give you some idea though I've increased my CER 7x in about a week from snipering. Now obviously this rate of growth is going to slow down because of the higher prices for fleets etc... but its very profitable.


So? You think people didn't have to work hard to get to where they are without the tactic that you are using? There should be some available method to ensure that the bigger accounts can hit back at the smaller. Does this kind of thing happen on the main server, with smallish players farming accounts like STI?


Of course a lot of them worked hard to get there, either that or they poured a lot of main resources into it which is in itself work... But, to catch up, hard work isnt going to get you anywhere! You can either put a lot of main resources into it or take 12 months... I can't see the problem with taking dmu from the higher ranking people, imo they should have a higher defence, if they put half their planets and a quarter of their resources into building defence and assasins we wouldn't be able to do this. (at least not nearly as easily)

This is just the way the game has developed.

Also, yes smaller players do farm larger accounts like STI... mabye not quite as large as STI (I think he's one of the people who have built a large defence) but it does happen.
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Re: Its crap, fix it

Lord_Zeus wrote:
Finarfin wrote:
Lord_Zeus wrote:No offence guys, but playing ordinarily will get you nowhere in a decent time, sure over 6 months you may catch up a bit, to give you some idea though I've increased my CER 7x in about a week from snipering. Now obviously this rate of growth is going to slow down because of the higher prices for fleets etc... but its very profitable.


So? You think people didn't have to work hard to get to where they are without the tactic that you are using? There should be some available method to ensure that the bigger accounts can hit back at the smaller. Does this kind of thing happen on the main server, with smallish players farming accounts like STI?


Of course a lot of them worked hard to get there, either that or they poured a lot of main resources into it which is in itself work... But, to catch up, hard work isnt going to get you anywhere! You can either put a lot of main resources into it or take 12 months... I can't see the problem with taking dmu from the higher ranking people, imo they should have a higher defence, if they put half their planets and a quarter of their resources into building defence and assasins we wouldn't be able to do this. (at least not nearly as easily)

This is just the way the game has developed.

Also, yes smaller players do farm larger accounts like STI... mabye not quite as large as STI (I think he's one of the people who have built a large defence) but it does happen.


Because those accounts are focusing on two stats, whilst bigger accounts are dealing with probably all of them.
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Wow, hang on,I'm seeing this differently now.

The big accounts are wanting things changed to enable them to be allowed to hit the smaller players. Yet they also want to change things to stop the smaller players hitting them? Seems a bit unfair no?
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You can't really blame people for doing it, as it's an effective tactic. The problem is with game mechanics, and the way the server is set up.
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We don't want the small players not to be able to hit us. What we want is to be able to hit the smaller players if and when they hit us (and hurt them). Currently it is impossible (yes, impossible) to descend someone in this game that is actively playing ascension. It has to stop. Stop coddling the weak who are preying on the strong. Remove the rank mods and the damage caps and the ridiculous CER restrictions and let the tigers prowl. If these people think they are such hot **Filtered** then let them stand against us on even terms. I want it to go both ways, not just one way, which is the way it is right now.
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Mojo Rising wrote:We don't want the small players not to be able to hit us. What we want is to be able to hit the smaller players if and when they hit us (and hurt them). Currently it is impossible (yes, impossible) to descend someone in this game that is actively playing ascension. It has to stop. Stop coddling the weak who are preying on the strong. Remove the rank mods and the damage caps and the ridiculous CER restrictions and let the tigers prowl. If these people think they are such hot stuff then let them stand against us on even terms. I want it to go both ways, not just one way, which is the way it is right now.



I'm agreeing with this.
and yes snipering is a great way to get ahead, aslong as you don't mind being blacked listed in main, and ascension. To clear this up, black listed means when it becomes possible to HURT that's players account, it will be done.
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