Shall I play for rank?

[bebita]

You are not understanding what I am saying.

Feeding is legal, that is a fact. Therefore some who feeds, is not a cheater.

I see feeding as part of the game, because it has always been around.
But abusing it (like seijuro) is completely unacceptable. But still not cheating. It is something we have to deal with. But I never expected to get rid of all feeding, as it has been around as long as farming. People will always be willing to help each other reach goals.. like massing rank 1, or getting a AC level, or trying to stay top ranks.

and hippy abused
whats so hard to understand that
he claims he farmed 30 tril
that trills are farmed with 4 times less turns that other player did
if that is not abuse idk what for u is called abuse

[S1eepy]

Abused? I think you are forgetting seijuro too quickly... He was first to abuse it. He was untouchable. No matter what was done.. He would have won.

As far as I can see, hippy can be stopped.. People seem to be giving it a good go at least. If hippy does win it's by reducing his losses and spending intelligently from here on. He hasn't been handed rank 1 on a platter by feeders.

Every1 is paranoid since seijuro did it... But no1 has abused it like he did

[bebita]

Abused? I think you are forgetting seijuro too quickly... He was first to abuse it. He was untouchable. No matter what was done.. He would have won.

As far as I can see, hippy can be stopped.. People seem to be giving it a good go at least. If hippy does win it's by reducing his losses and spending intelligently from here on. He hasn't been handed rank 1 on a platter by feeders.

Every1 is paranoid since seijuro did it... But no1 has abused it like he did

yeah
is the same
just in another terms
while seijuro was untouchable in the last hours
hippy abused all wave
from first week
with no income he managed to farm what we farm in farm fest
and he claimed is possible to recover
i was a naive and i really bellieved that .............
if i lost any resource during this wave i was able to bellieve that ippy could get in front with over 1 mil uu
but since i lost any of them and i farmed very good and i even put 50 k uu up per day in front of him at some point he recover and build a better account ...........
feeding?
i doubt
nobody is farming for u hours per day just for a game

[S1eepy]

All you are saying it's not possible to catch up if you miss the farmfest? Again I point to the excess jaw you spent pushing ahead with UP before anyone else. HE went first.. I went 2nd.. And you went 3rd. So you had best UP after farm feet, because you
Got it cheapest... Hippy still hadn't bought, and I remember working out for him how to catch the top UPs while spending least naq... Just like I did for you bebita, and HE... And every1 else who asked. Except hippy didn't buy straight away.. He waited until we pushed even more, then caught up and passed us all, and spent a lot less naq doing it. He did not have a top army until later in the wave, but seems like it's easy to explain.
Although I have a unique view of l seeing how much naq each person used, because most were checking their costs with me.

[bebita]

never this wave i give up
always spent turns at the best rate
i even push ity with 150$
that 10 k turns more and over 3 tril naq
hippy come at pass all that things
how?
with buying uu from market
but in the same time he catch in naq
how this could be possible?
exaplin that sleepy
or u know from where he farm like me while he bought uu from market
one trade still means 4800 less turns ...........
or u are just blind or even involved like hell
all shadow stalkers know how much naq they give to me
i am srry for all that farm i give to them and i will repay them with my power from the end
maybe ss will winn this wave
and still hippy with 76 attacks in the last 10 days passed that .......

[Slugworth Assrot]

S1eepy, you keep saying feeding is 'legal', feeding is a 'tactic'.... firstly, Im sorry but I have to assume you're doing it too, so I'm going to come straight out and ask. Are you?

Feeding should NOT be legal, and I'm shocked that the so-called 'best player in quantum' is advocating what has been going on this era.

As for UP, getting to 200k 2nd or 3rd is NOT a whole lot cheaper. It costs less - sure, but not a lot.

I really dont understand why you keep stating the same thing over and over, feeding is legal, multi-ing is cheating. It seems to me that the vast majority of people can see that it isnt fair to gain an advantage by having the combined resources of extra accounts - whether you control them or not. It seems to me that you rely on feeding so much that you cant bear to have it taken away from you. I strongly suspect you are as undeserving of your award as Hippy is.

This is a war game, and lets face it, feeding is stupid, and calling it a 'tactic' is a poor excuse. Can you name for me any war in history where a losing nation magically created another nation to help them out with troops and weapons?

[Sorrow]

Can you name for me any war in history where a losing nation magically created another nation to help them out with troops and weapons?

Okay, that was funny as hell.

@bebita

We can all see your point about Hippy, but there's nothing to do about it, except for the massing that you're doing already. Keep it up if you want, but there is nothing more to be done about this whole issue. You will be able prove your point to everyone with those new attack logs next era.

Btw are you joining SS at the end, or did I misunderstand something?

[bebita]

yes
i am thinking at that like a reward for all farming i did to them
they help me to keep the step
now i realised how much damage i did

[Kikaz]

Ok.. first of all NONE of the 5 members of TCC have any multies...

Yes, they HAVE been fed either this wave or in past waves I can say that with complete assurance of 4/5 of their members...

FACT, everyone who has ever finished top 10 in a wave, since wave 4 at least, has been fed or put in $400 in one wave. (Excluding the gambling waves..)

Every one in the top 20 glory including myself HAS been fed before...

Every one of us HAS been investigated by an admin for multi's numerous times... Jason can verify this...

None have multi's, all have or have had feeders.

Are you all REALLY this shocked?

and

Have really been this ignorant of it for the past 3 years?

As of now it is a legal tactic in the game and has been for several years...

Nitro
Kusardo
Jenviva
Kensiky
Tzuicabej
Elite
Macg
Sox69 (?)

All are different people.. none are feeders to the furthest of my knowledge..

And what about those Darth accounts, Roo and Piglet and Tauri and such.

Are Indeed a family, and that has been verified by Admin Jason several times I believe..

seijuro hiko =fearless=kalanor=hippyfool

Dont quite understand if your saying they are the same person or if there all 'cheaters' but I assure you all four of those are different people...

And to be COMPLETLY honest ALMOST every player who has complained in this topic about feeding HAS BEEN FED...


Just cut the crap already, feeding is a legal tactic in Quantum right now, most people only have 1 or 2 people that feed them and it's not everyday it's every few weeks they farm maybe 10k turns...

BUT the players with 10+ feeders that get fed too much to ever catch up to by all means mass them...

There has only been 1 wave I know of that someone has been fed so much they were uncatchable.

The ONLY reason you all care so much this wave is because theres been NO WARS and it's STRAIGHT STATBUILDING, and the incomes are so big that someone can get fed one time by one feeder, like 95% of the active quantum does, and build an UP or defense to increase their ability to keep their NAQ or make more... and slowly they start pulling ahead..

OMG h4x..!!!11!!!!111

I'll say this once the solution to feeders is and always has been WAR...

Start massing each other you wont even be able to tell someone is being fed because 80% of people that are being fed put it into MASSABLE STATS...


And if all else fails...


Get a life,
Kikaz

[Shadow_Dragon]

Bebita, I understand English is not your first language, so my long messages are harder for you to fully understand. But can you please explain why I should not be allowed to play the game anymore?

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hypocrisy

Not for me to answer but all the comments say it all, you and your alliance have clearly harboured feeding if not directly then by contact, this in itself makes the whole issue wrong..

I have done and will do again, if someone would like to help me, then without cross server trades and so on hell yeah!!

Will my action be correct ?? then as far as this wave goes then NO, but in reality it will do nothing to mass these players they will just start to ... well you know, make it less obvious..

These new measures will hopefully quell these issues, I certainly hope this is the case I have spent many $$ and will refuse to do so again if iif these measures are not in place.

Sorry guys for the long winded post, but I hate to lose to ppl that contradict what they are saying...

Humble apologies

[S1eepy]

Why do I repeat myself? In the hope bebita reads one of them and stops calling people cheaters when he means feeders. There is a massive difference.

have I been fed in the past? Yes
That I have never hidden. It was a way to challenge for rank 1. This wave however I have no challenge for rank 1, so it is not worth the effort. (and if you think it's easy, try it.. Few people can be bothered to spend hours farming for no personal gain)

As kikaz said, there has been only 1 time feeding has been completely abused and not caught as cheating... The war on feeders was to prevent that repeating. (even if it meant I fought seijuro all wave)

No1 has become untouchable this wave. So feeding has been controlled. Where is the hipocrasy?

Just as a side note, I remember Zaphor getting in trouble with admin because it looked like he was xserver trading. But it turned out the goods on main were part of a different trade, and nothing to do with the naq he had been given on Q. Which was given just to help him win. This was a long time ago, and didn't bother anyone at the time (after it was proven it wasn't xserver trading) this has become such an issue this wave because Q couldn't afford the same sort of ending as last wave.

[bebita]

HIPPYFOOL IS A CHEATER
.
none of u come with proves that he is having rl friends
and same for hippy

[Slugworth Assrot]

@ S1eepy and Kikaz

Explain to me, if you can, WHY feeding is a fair and legal tactic, and why you support every player of quantum being a feeder, how this is beneficial for the server, and how this tactic is in line with the spirit of good sportsmanship and a level and equal playing field.

Edit - I'll also say this again.

A multi is a players secondary account whose purpose is to benefit a players primary account. Just because a player is getting their friend to do the work does not negate multi'ing.

The secondary accounts are not playing for their own benefit, they are purely passing naq on.

I therefore declare that the feeding that has been taking place is in fact multi'ing.

[bebita]

because this is the way of both to play
they are pathetic players and without feeding they will be 0
i bet will be a new quantum in the next waves
but sleepy will not be included same for hippy

[Slugworth Assrot]

I agree, pathetic indeed, particularly due to the constant statement -

'but I cant win without feeding'

No skill, no class, no honour. Just cheats.