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Re: Last 2 ascensions
lol no cost would deter me from a 100% AB.
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Well, I agree with them on the most part, I like the 1mil uu bit, but I would also like to add in a few bits...
Well, imo, something along the lines of 350mil uu (NOT lifers) should be sacrificed, with everything else destroyed.
And perhaps somewhere along the lines of can only ascending while you're at rank 1 for, perhaps something like a day without PPT.
But as for bonuses, I would think that #25 should unlock a 'new' 'race' with a new interface, weapons, techs, MS (so, I support the MS being destroyed bit) etc.
And to stop people holding uu etc, perhaps the person emerges in perg or something...
Well, imo, something along the lines of 350mil uu (NOT lifers) should be sacrificed, with everything else destroyed.
And perhaps somewhere along the lines of can only ascending while you're at rank 1 for, perhaps something like a day without PPT.
But as for bonuses, I would think that #25 should unlock a 'new' 'race' with a new interface, weapons, techs, MS (so, I support the MS being destroyed bit) etc.
And to stop people holding uu etc, perhaps the person emerges in perg or something...


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Re: Last 2 ascensions
Andariel wrote:lol no cost would deter me from a 100% AB.
Despite the fact that the resources which you put in, would provide in effect 3x power (not 2x for AB)...
And CABAL,
You realize that, the number of people with 350UU (not lifers as you said), probably total about 10 ingame... If you trained them into miners at some time during your game play, you would have 35m lifers. Meaning you'd need to have 385UU minimum, and not trained anywhere
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Re: Last 2 ascensions
Sarevok wrote:Andariel wrote:lol no cost would deter me from a 100% AB.
Despite the fact that the resources which you put in, would provide in effect 3x power (not 2x for AB)...
And CABAL,
You realize that, the number of people with 350UU (not lifers as you said), probably total about 10 ingame... If you trained them into miners at some time during your game play, you would have 35m lifers. Meaning you'd need to have 385UU minimum, and not trained anywhere
Hence why it's such a challenge to do so.
Making the 25th ascension truly a remarkable achievement. I agree with that idea.

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Re: Last 2 ascensions
Sarevok wrote:Andariel wrote:lol no cost would deter me from a 100% AB.
Despite the fact that the resources which you put in, would provide in effect 3x power (not 2x for AB)...
whatchya mean? o.o
like if invested through planets? but to make that claim you'd have to know the amount of strike being tripled.
so what do u mean? o.O
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Re: Last 2 ascensions
Basically.
For the same price, you could get 10 attack or defense planets at 250B each. That is the cost of the UP i mean
For the same price, you could get 10 attack or defense planets at 250B each. That is the cost of the UP i mean
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Re: Last 2 ascensions
-shrug- I have that many UU, I just can't get them into my account. If you are going to sacrifice UU, then you should make it doable without having to wait on UP, so raid limit at the most. Even that though is forcing someone to do something they may not necessarily want to do - lifer suicide.
Though still, what does all this MASSIVELY high cost ascending do for my ascended account - diddly squat. If you are going to do such a high cost ascension then it should do something for the ascended account too IMO.
Though still, what does all this MASSIVELY high cost ascending do for my ascended account - diddly squat. If you are going to do such a high cost ascension then it should do something for the ascended account too IMO.
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Re: Last 2 ascensions
Sarevok wrote:And CABAL,
You realize that, the number of people with 350UU (not lifers as you said), probably total about 10 ingame... If you trained them into miners at some time during your game play, you would have 35m lifers. Meaning you'd need to have 385UU minimum, and not trained anywhere
Well, first of all, not quite, if they trained 340mil miners, to get 34mil lifers, lifer suicide, raid back, lifer suicide, raid back, etc... And than only need 11 more days to wait before they get >350mil uu.
Tekki wrote:-shrug- I have that many UU, I just can't get them into my account. If you are going to sacrifice UU, then you should make it doable without having to wait on UP, so raid limit at the most. Even that though is forcing someone to do something they may not necessarily want to do - lifer suicide.
Though still, what does all this MASSIVELY high cost ascending do for my ascended account - diddly squat. If you are going to do such a high cost ascension then it should do something for the ascended account too IMO.
Well, imo, waiting on UP should be a good idea, as it will stop people 'raiding' their stored uu back in order to ascend, but actually wait...
And as for ascended account, maybe something along the lines of 200 free 'points' which allow you to up lvls of your choosing regardless of cost


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Re: Last 2 ascensions
Lore wrote:Seaborgium wrote:you can't really go past 23, you can ascend but there's no title. and its rumored that if you do 35 that you start at prior. Demi did #24, he had no title for a while but i think admin reset back to 23, but i don't know
Demi got 23rd, not 24th. there were only 22 at the time and he broke the game and forced ascention 23.
Admin has stated there will be 2 more, but also said it would stay at 25 for "some time" not indefinitely.
I agree with the high costs, but really its pointless. Even with the cost you mention in the 25th ascention, people will store resources on others accounts, alliances will band together, and the 25 time ascender will be at the raid limit inside him ascention PPT ending. Everyone knows it same as I do.
I know he did that with the 23rd, but jsut 2 weeks ago i saw him with no title.
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Re: Last 2 ascensions
CABAL wrote:Sarevok wrote:And CABAL,
You realize that, the number of people with 350UU (not lifers as you said), probably total about 10 ingame... If you trained them into miners at some time during your game play, you would have 35m lifers. Meaning you'd need to have 385UU minimum, and not trained anywhere
Well, first of all, not quite, if they trained 340mil miners, to get 34mil lifers, lifer suicide, raid back, lifer suicide, raid back, etc... And than only need 11 more days to wait before they get >350mil uu.
"Above 340,684,932 and raiding is no longer possible."
Well, you'll be waiting at least 10 days with a 1M UP to get to 350. Of course should someone find you, you'd be the best farm in the entire game for at least 10 days. Since, if you train ANY of those units to do something with your account, then you'll have to wait even longer.
And before you say train, you can only train into normal attackers, at a cost of 700B
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Re: Last 2 ascensions
Sarevok wrote:"Above 340,684,932 and raiding is no longer possible."
Well, you'll be waiting at least 10 days with a 1M UP to get to 350. Of course should someone find you, you'd be the best farm in the entire game for at least 10 days. Since, if you train ANY of those units to do something with your account, then you'll have to wait even longer.
And before you say train, you can only train into normal attackers, at a cost of 700B
Why would you be a very good farm?


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If you chose to leave them trained as miners, being what, 24x ascended...
42B/turn, with 0 defenses...
42B/turn, with 0 defenses...
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Re: Last 2 ascensions
Nobody said you shouldn't train defenders... besides, how are you getting the G&R for the 25th ascension then?

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Re: Last 2 ascensions
I left that out since you can simply get the G&R first... Then prepare for the ascension.
And if they did train defenders, wouldn't you mass them, to prevent them from achieving whatever bonus they got for 25th level??
And if they did train defenders, wouldn't you mass them, to prevent them from achieving whatever bonus they got for 25th level??
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Re: Last 2 ascensions
Sarevok wrote:I left that out since you can simply get the G&R first... Then prepare for the ascension.
And if they did train defenders, wouldn't you mass them, to prevent them from achieving whatever bonus they got for 25th level??
err... Note that there ARE people above 500mil armysize in this game (last time I checked), and for people afraid of a high income, they can easily get crit, and an officer.
Not to mention the fact that a 4 day PPT will allow them ample time to collect G&R whilst keeping their def invulnerable.


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