planet massing

[solmyr]

what is the percentage ratio for fleets totally destoyed. i thought it was 5x or 20% but tday someone was succesfully attempting to chew their way thru a platform that was approx 6.7x their fleet power???

WTH

[solmyr]

BUMP, need to know so i can go to bed with sufficient defences

[RoKeT]

if you have a moving platform it destroys all there fleets lol i don't really get the question sorry probably just f'd up but atleast i tried

[dastupy]

If you have 10% of platform def strength, your fleets won't get destroyed.
So you have to build 11 times their fleet power, cause sometimes your platforms inflict less damage then normal.

[solmyr]

If you have 10% of platform def strength, your fleets won't get destroyed.
So you have to build 11 times their fleet power, cause sometimes your platforms inflict less damage then normal.

but with planetary ground defences its 20% isnt it?

[dastupy]

Try 15 %
If you have more then that, they are unable to attack your planet thus they can't mass it down and steal it.

Edit: Last time I checked, mobile and stationary get count individual.
A.E.: I got 300bill def on a planet and 1.8 trill platforms, they need 180 bill fleet strength and not 210 bill.

[solmyr]

so to keep a planet *untouchable* their fleet strength must be less than 15% of your ground def, or 10% of your platform yes?

[dastupy]

Yes. But don't forget that your plats sometimes inflict less damage.

[solmyr]

so if my enemy has 56b fleet strength and my platform does 360b and my ground def do 60b, does that mix in to mean 11% or something??

or does my TOTAL def have to be 560b to destroy fleets?

[dastupy]

Nope, It must be
: 10% of platform
And 15% of normal def.

So : 900 bill platform and 1.5 trill normal:
= 225 bill strike min and not 360 bill
3trill platform and 500 bill normal def
= 300 bill strike ( If I made it clearer this way.

[solmyr]

Nope, It must be
: 10% of platform
And 15% of normal def.

So : 900 bill platform and 1.5 trill normal:
= 225 bill strike min and not 360 bill
3trill platform and 500 bill normal def
= 300 bill strike ( If I made it clearer this way.

yep i get you now thanks

[MaxSterling]

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[schuesseled]

Datuspy, can I confirm something with you.

Are you saying that the platforms and planet defences work irrespective of each other.

So in other words, the calculations are done seperatly.

So If a fleet has more than the 15% needed of the planet defence they are allowed to attack.
Then all the attacker needs to have is more than 10% of the PDP with full fleet power to not get 0'd. Ignoring the fact that lots of the fleets should be being used up on the planet defences.

This would mean that if 10% of your PDP power is lower than 15% of your Planet defences, your PDP's are completely irrelevant. I.e they will do nothing, just get destroyed.

I will test this sometime if this is what you are saying.


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From personal test, I believe it to be as follows.

To be allowed to attack, fleets must be over 15% of the planet defences power, otherwise it is considered a suicide mission, ol' kamikaze style and the pilots are not religious fanatics. They like to be alive.
To damage PDP all you need is a fleet.
To not get "devestating damage" and loose all the fleets you send you need to have, 10% (or a fluctuation there of) of PDP+Planet total power.

[dastupy]

Yes, that is what I've heard, but it could also be that the person who told me was wrong.

[R8]

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this does answear pretty much all the questions.

and yes 12ag there is no link between raw defence and platoforms in terms of combining defence totals and it needs to be that way otherwise it would be easier and cheaper to protect planets and harder to work out total % of defence when attempting to mass them. and yes practice makes perfect especially in main. beta is not so accurate i think in some instances.