re bais mods

[Almost38]

My thread in the GC currently titles FS-v-DDE

I requested this thread that I started be closed, it was closed, then reopened by Deni.

I changed the title of the same thread to reflect the way it had gone off topic. Today I see the title has been changed back, and my 1st post has been locked to prevent me changing the title again.


I thought this was the SGW forum, not the DDE forum, so my questions are these

1) Why am I being prevented from changing the title of my own thread ?

2) Why am I not allowed to close my own thread ?

3) Why are DDE Mods allowed to tamper with threads that they have a personal interest in ?


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another question if one allaince wants the thread closed and has repeatdley asked shouldnt thread be closed since it is there war thread?

[Juliette]

No. The thread will be closed when it is no longer actual, or when both warring parties agree that it is no longer required. (i.e. if FS and DDE agree their thread should be locked, then it is likely to be locked.)
Locking your thread at your request is a privilege sometimes extended by moderators. It is not the common course of action.


So no, even if you can gather 100 people who all say the thread should be locked, if it retains merit, it will remain open.

[Almost38]

ok and how did that thread have any merit at all it was all spam and insults that why we wanted it closed and if DDE still wants the thread open they created there own dde vs fs thread for that

[Jim]

ok and how did that thread have any merit at all it was all spam and insults that why we wanted it closed and if DDE still wants the thread open they created there own dde vs fs thread for that

Rules state one war, one thread. Just pointing it out

[Almost38]

then the thread in question shouldnt even exist as there already another war thread so it should be locked!

[Jim]

then the thread in question shouldnt even exist as there already another war thread so it should be locked!

Where?

[Almost38]

viewtopic.php?p=1901379#p1901379

[Jim]

http://talk.gatewa.rs/viewtopic.php?p=1901379#p1901379

Interesting point

[Almost38]

so can the thread be locked before even more psam is made of it?

[renegadze]

On the basis that technically the opening post remains the intellectual property of the author, they can ask for the tile to be renamed as they see fit. While leaving the thread open may have merit, at the very least the author can request that any posts they have made be removed

[Almost38]

two war thread for the same war both spammed one created by fs one created by dde FS want the thread locked so why lock our and unlock that one so they can post w.e they want in it?

[MEZZANINE]

Nice try Almost but but you cant win with logic or reason in this place

[Juliette]

On the basis that technically the opening post remains the intellectual property of the author, they can ask for the tile to be renamed as they see fit. While leaving the thread open may have merit, at the very least the author can request that any posts they have made be removed

Your base premise is untrue. Anything on these boards is the intellectual property of the Site Admin. He carries legal responsibility, and as a consequence, supreme and unquestionable authority to ensure -at the very least- the legality of the content. If it would please him to remove an entire forum section for no reason, he could do so. He might upset the community, but it's his forum, his rules, his ownership. If he'd want to edit Philip's name into "Lying Maniac", he could, and there would be nothing anyone could do to protest that.

He has delegated that unquestionable, supreme authority to the Forum Administration (Earendil, Zeratul, Bazsy), who in turn delegate part of that authority to their GMs, who in turn employ mods (from an admin-approved pool) for their sections.
The Forum Administration saw fit to state their rules in public, something they are not required to do, but something that enables us mods to do our jobs with a little more ease.


Any freedom of speech is the freedom of speech the Administration gives you. If you are not satisfied with the amount of freedom you have, talk to the Administration. They are under no obligation to listen. They are under no obligation to act. They are under no obligation to even acknowledge your existence.
But knowing the decent chaps they are, I know they will listen to you. But don't make the bloody peasant's mistake of thinking that "listening to your problem" means "promising to act to solve it". It is a courtesy to listen.



*equips Zeus armour*
"They need to be reminded of the order of things."

[killtacular]

On the basis that technically the opening post remains the intellectual property of the author, they can ask for the tile to be renamed as they see fit. While leaving the thread open may have merit, at the very least the author can request that any posts they have made be removed

Your base premise is untrue. Anything on these boards is the intellectual property of the Site Admin. He carries legal responsibility, and as a consequence, supreme and unquestionable authority to ensure -at the very least- the legality of the content. If it would please him to remove an entire forum section for no reason, he could do so. He might upset the community, but it's his forum, his rules, his ownership. If he'd want to edit Philip's name into "Lying Maniac", he could, and there would be nothing anyone could do to protest that.

He has delegated that unquestionable, supreme authority to the Forum Administration (Earendil, Zeratul, Bazsy), who in turn delegate part of that authority to their GMs, who in turn employ mods (from an admin-approved pool) for their sections.
The Forum Administration saw fit to state their rules in public, something they are not required to do, but something that enables us mods to do our jobs with a little more ease.


Any freedom of speech is the freedom of speech the Administration gives you. If you are not satisfied with the amount of freedom you have, talk to the Administration. They are under no obligation to listen. They are under no obligation to act. They are under no obligation to even acknowledge your existence.
But knowing the decent chaps they are, I know they will listen to you. But don't make the bloody peasant's mistake of thinking that "listening to your problem" means "promising to act to solve it". It is a courtesy to listen.



*equips Zeus armour*
"They need to be reminded of the order of things."

He has delegated that unquestionable, supreme authority to the Forum Administration (Earendil, Zeratul, Bazsy), who in turn delegate part of that authority to their GMs, who in turn employ mods (from an admin-approved pool) for their sections.




I like this part. People make mistakes and Jason has made a big mistake in 1 or even 2 of the forum admins. 1 of these admins is absolute crap. But hey thats my opinion.

[Dubby_CompGamerGeek2]

** registers formal complaint on the attitudes of the mods. **

it was previously understood that in most circumstances the author's request to lock the thread,
especially after due cause like spamming,
old threads, etc...
would be granted...

hence the need for the discussion and further ruling by the mod team in this thread to begin with.

While I understand, and am inclined to agree in general principle with the mods' decision on the ownership of threads by the community...

I think it is way off base in this case,


and I also feel that mods are the ones misbehaving here, not the users.

If you don't want us to visit the forums, just say so

Perhaps this should move to the Ombudsman's Office