Regarding Ascension

[Jean Gregoire Gabriel]

I guess what I'm getting at is, how is it fair for someone who has stayed in the top 10 for weeks, earned millions of UU and billions of naq to be reset to the same level as me, who managed to hold onto a top 250 rank long enough to get 1000 G & R, has only been playing a few months, only had barely enough naq to ascend because of an attacking rampage, and only had 180k UU? The difference is, they put a lot more work into getting the same thing as me, why should they be penalized for only 'using' the same amount of work that I put in? They probably ascended with pretty much the minimum, same as I did, cus they could, it wouldn't be fair to them to only get as much as I did but it cost them way more?

Why bother with resetting the Ascending accounts if not to flush out the top ranks and make the recently Ascended do all their hard work again? The point was to make people work again, from scratch.

Also remember that Admin left it up to the player to decide whether they Ascend or not - no-one was forced to Ascend and give up all their hard work - and therefore everyone should have accepted the fee of the reset account.

Why should people have Ascended with all of their account? Because it was the right thing to do - the intention was always to make the players start afresh.

Is it fair that some people could Ascend with less than others? Yes, because those who Ascend with less have less in the Ascension server, and ultimately, because they always had the choice as to whether to Ascend or not.


J.G.G.

[compmage]

Yes, moaning from people who can't get their resources straight back from their friends after they've ascended. Thus, not clogging up the top 1000 for the rest of us players. I imagine getting back into the top 1000 is much easier than the Admin intended it to be.

I would think there would be more moaning from people who have only ascended once, don't plan to do so again (or at least not in the near future) and now suffer penalties everytime they try and help out their officers or alliance mates.

Also one of the reasons so many people have been able to ascend multiple times is because everyone else was complaining that it was too hard to get into the top 100 (for various reasons) so that you could earn G&R points. Forum listened and changed the cut-off point to the top 1.5%. Sure there was a problem with about a dozen already ascended players gettin back into the top 100 quickly however, lowering the bar has just made it worse.

I am all for making it harder for players to regain power after they ascend, I have just not yet seen an idea that accomplishes that without penalizing those that don't plan to reascend or doesn't force the already ascended players to sit on top longer, which is exactly the opposite of what everyone wants.

[daivahataka]

Will doing a reset of Ascention stop people from repeating the same process as they previously have (of stashing units and naq when they ascend so as to have a faster reascention)?
No, the only hope would be to make ascended accounts on main unable to receive player to player transfers, they could still use the marketplace but that would be it. Lets face it though, with so many of the players heavily reliant on the advantages they gain from such a block against it is never going to happen.

[12agnar0k]

you do realise that the people who ascend and can raise back to the top 10 in a matter of days only do so because they have built themseleves up a uu army through hard work, im pretty sure the guys with 10mil uu would not be happy with your suggestion.

[Wolf359]

Will doing a reset of Ascention stop people from repeating the same process as they previously have (of stashing units and naq when they ascend so as to have a faster reascention)?
No, the only hope would be to make ascended accounts on main unable to receive player to player transfers, they could still use the marketplace but that would be it. Lets face it though, with so many of the players heavily reliant on the advantages they gain from such a block against it is never going to happen.

If you were to prohibit player to player transfers would Forum then pay back $20 or $50 to everyone who bought SS just to have this ability?

I think not.

[daivahataka]

Will doing a reset of Ascention stop people from repeating the same process as they previously have (of stashing units and naq when they ascend so as to have a faster reascention)?
No, the only hope would be to make ascended accounts on main unable to receive player to player transfers, they could still use the marketplace but that would be it. Lets face it though, with so many of the players heavily reliant on the advantages they gain from such a block against it is never going to happen.

If you were to prohibit player to player transfers would Forum then pay back $20 or $50 to everyone who bought SS just to have this ability?

I think not.

They'd still have full marketplace access and the boost to their bank capacity, but it's a moot point anyway as as I'd said
Lets face it though, with so many of the players heavily reliant on the advantages they gain from such a block against it is never going to happen.

[Squeaky]

its stupid that you have to get into the top 100 to ascend it should be the top 1000 or its to hard to get to since most of the top players are ascended and take up the top 100 or there should be some other way to get it like giving up somethink just like with ss somethin like that would make it so more people could do it.{-Squeaky-}

[Reaver]

its stupid that you have to get into the top 100 to ascend it should be the top 1000 or its to hard to get to since most of the top players are ascended and take up the top 100 or there should be some other way to get it like giving up somethink just like with ss somethin like that would make it so more people could do it.{-Squeaky-}

Again, Ascension isn't supposed to be easy or for everyone. Lowering the bar more would only make it worse. It's a reward for playing WELL, not just for playing.

[Squeaky]

its stupid that you have to get into the top 100 to ascend it should be the top 1000 or its to hard to get to since most of the top players are ascended and take up the top 100 or there should be some other way to get it like giving up somethink just like with ss somethin like that would make it so more people could do it.{-Squeaky-}

Again, Ascension isn't supposed to be easy or for everyone. Lowering the bar more would only make it worse. It's a reward for playing WELL, not just for playing.

you tell that to all the players who have been trying to get there i my self have been trying but every time i get close someone get me and im sent bak behind 1000 there strong no matter how much you try they will stop most people from ascending so the rank should be lowered to at leased 500 to make it fair

[Spoon]

Its the top 1.5% that gain glory, so you only need to be about rank 440 to start gaining glory and heading towards ascension.

[Artiglio]

you tell that to all the players who have been trying to get there i my self have been trying but every time i get close someone get me and im sent bak behind 1000 there strong no matter how much you try they will stop most people from ascending so the rank should be lowered to at leased 500 to make it fair

if it was put back to top 100 then there would be less of those ascended players tho

[Reaver]

you tell that to all the players who have been trying to get there i my self have been trying but every time i get close someone get me and im sent bak behind 1000 there strong no matter how much you try they will stop most people from ascending so the rank should be lowered to at leased 500 to make it fair

Hello? I'm one of those players too. I've started from basically nothing twice now and am working on my third time. It can be done. Look, I'm not saying that I don't have sympathy. But if you want to ascend then you need to work a little harder. Maybe join an alliance with people who can help you. Yes, it's hard to do it on your own, so find some friends.

And if you keep getting hit so hard that it actually sends your rank dropping, then you need to stop making so many enemies.

[Squeaky]

you tell that to all the players who have been trying to get there i my self have been trying but every time i get close someone get me and im sent bak behind 1000 there strong no matter how much you try they will stop most people from ascending so the rank should be lowered to at leased 500 to make it fair

if it was put back to top 100 then there would be less of those ascended players tho [/quote

well if you have a better idea about how to help more people ascend tell mi