GrizzZzzly vs Earendil + Empy + SuperSaiyan

[jedi~tank]

All of this mod bashing is counterproductive and looks to me like manipulation by someone behind the scenes that will lead to an eventual beatdown like the old days, I think all parties ought to just stick a nipple in it and roll on..massing or harrassing over msn chats or insults is rediculous and carrying it over into a public area is even more so. Picking on trainees new players is weak.

[BarelyAllen]

Well if this tread is supposed to inspire confidance in the integrity and character of the mods its kinda failing.

I honestly dont care what language and profanities you use in your private MSN chats about people, thoe it does kinda lend credence to the theories that perhaps people emotinaly invested in certain relationship should refrained from policing certain threads... cos if you slander someone as having hairy feetz or being offspring of a female canine you`re likely not inclined to treat that guy/gal the most objectivly... but thats another story.

Whats starting to irk me is that that even in this thread its just mod after mod being abusive. I`m starting to not know why you berate grizz for not seperating msn, forum & game, when you clearly arent capable of doing that either lol.
But lemme ges... everybody was just joking again right? Find a sense of humor davs. Loose the stick up yer rectum. Yea, funny how some people dont get to make nearly as many jokes on these forums as others do. Thats the biggest punchline of them all.
But god forbid you doubt the system.

And now the same mods that have been abusive in the last few pages are going to adopt a holier than thou defence stance. And you know who you are, if you dont, flip back a couple pages.

A lot of of us know just how you go about doing your jobs. We all now know how you go about conversing behind peoples backs about them. But atleast put in the effort to post befitting your positions. Leave us the illusion of integrity for petes sake. Behave.

Eary IS kinda being mean and a **filtered**.

[Rocky]

All of this mod bashing is counterproductive and looks to me like manipulation by someone behind the scenes that will lead to an eventual beatdown like the old days, I think all parties ought to just stick a nipple in it and roll on..massing or harrassing over msn chats or insults is rediculous and carrying it over into a public area is even more so. Picking on trainees new players is weak.

i guess you haven't been following the thread completely then,

Re: GrizzZzzly vs Earendil + Empy + SuperSaiyan

massing over insults is also, in my opinion more of a reason than none at all, and im sure DDE have started wars over no reason at all, so please..

[R8]

well sicne ive been away at work all day grizz gets himself a 7 page vendetta. damn and i thought he was all cuddly and cute

a couple of things i wanted to say.

firstly every player knows that beign a part of an allaince comes with priviliges and comes with responsibilities. you are responsible for your own actions but for your allaince as well, in the same way you recive alliance benefits you recieve allaince repercussions.

secondly this goes to the mods and admins involved in this. you volunteered yourselves to be given the opertunity to keep some sort of order and look after these forums, you are entrusted with that power and responsibility and you have a greater duty of care than the average user on here. that means your actions and words be it on here on msns ingame will have greater consequences than agin the average user.

thridly for all those crying at how msn/forum/ingame actions are beign taken out of control and being used against one another tell me where have you been for the past 4-5 years this game ahs been running. this is not the first time things cross over and it wont be the last. how many times have mods been massed or threatend ingame for forum actions.

the two things are linked togther, there is no game without the forums and no forums without the game.

ps. @ tetris keep your opions to yourself and if you want to take things ingame then talk to odin first about it

[Empy]

secondly this goes to the mods and admins involved in this. you volunteered yourselves to be given teh opertunity to keep some sort of order and look after these forums, you are entrusted with that power and responsibility and you have a greater duty of care than the average user on here. that means your actions and words be it on here on msns ingame will have greater consequences than agin the average user.

That's like a boss wire tapping his employee's home and holding him accountable for what he says about work there. The Forums are not the same thing as MSN, and neither is ingame. I've never been insulting or "mean" on the forums, and I take offense that my role as a member of the staff here is rolled in to literally everything I do anywhere.

If anyone cares to ask what I actually said on MSN, because none of it was offensive, then they can ask. Alternatively you can just judge me based on what people say.

[jedi~tank]

All of this mod bashing is counterproductive and looks to me like manipulation by someone behind the scenes that will lead to an eventual beatdown like the old days, I think all parties ought to just stick a nipple in it and roll on..massing or harrassing over msn chats or insults is rediculous and carrying it over into a public area is even more so. Picking on trainees new players is weak.

i guess you haven't been following the thread completely then,

Re: GrizzZzzly vs Earendil + Empy + SuperSaiyan

massing over insults is also, in my opinion more of a reason than none at all, and im sure DDE have started wars over no reason at all, so please..

DDE never started a war over such since I been here..thats a fact. However I do not think you need to bring specific names into this as your reply to my post as I did not.

[R8]

every person handles things differently and does things differently.

you have some people who never visit forums yet spend all day on msn and ingame and others all day on forums and never ingame.

we are trying to build on "our" community we have going here by trying to find ways to attract new players and so on but to move forward we have to fix the present and look at the past.

our forums are a very good place to be when they are running smoothley but when there are conflicts amongst each other then emotions get the better of some and their judgements get clouded.

i point the finger at the big man behind all this, he needs to pay more attention to whats going on here all the time otherwise there might come a time soon when there will be nothing left.

you boys have fun and do what you want with this V

[Nimras]

All of this mod bashing is counterproductive and looks to me like manipulation by someone behind the scenes that will lead to an eventual beatdown like the old days, I think all parties ought to just stick a nipple in it and roll on..massing or harrassing over msn chats or insults is rediculous and carrying it over into a public area is even more so. Picking on trainees new players is weak.

JT you must be joking but then again most of the biased and crappy mods/admins are FUALL atm before it used to be TLE and FUALL before that yeh i can go on lol.

So offcourse you have to defend them .

[Tek]

This is like watching my parents get divorced, and then the building collapses on them.

Saying that, i never knew my parents and i live in a cardboard box. So really...why so serious?

[GrizzZzzly]

Grizz massed my MS.

I returned the favor.

back atcha

[Rocky]

](*,)

This is like watching my parents get divorced, and then the building collapses on them.

Saying that, i never knew my parents and i live in a cardboard box. So really...why so serious?

its a mess because some people can't let Grizz have some fun and have a vendetta ingame, and these people have to voice their opinions here for some reason.

Im sure Grizz is having fun though.

[jedi~tank]

All of this mod bashing is counterproductive and looks to me like manipulation by someone behind the scenes that will lead to an eventual beatdown like the old days, I think all parties ought to just stick a nipple in it and roll on..massing or harrassing over msn chats or insults is rediculous and carrying it over into a public area is even more so. Picking on trainees new players is weak.

JT you must be joking but then again most of the biased and crappy mods/admins are FUALL atm before it used to be TLE and FUALL before that yeh i can go on lol.

So offcourse you have to defend them .

I see your still stuck on stupid with the anti FUALL sentiment. It does not matter how good and consistent a mod does ..if thier a member of FUALL then thier crappy in your eyes and I am sure others eyes..ya know what? Cry me a river because your as insignificant now as you were back then. If thier doing a good job them I voice support for them I could care less for thier alliance association..if they do a bad job likewise regardless of alliance association..ask em..they wont lie on my behalf..

[GeneralChaos]

All of this mod bashing is counterproductive and looks to me like manipulation by someone behind the scenes that will lead to an eventual beatdown like the old days, I think all parties ought to just stick a nipple in it and roll on..massing or harrassing over msn chats or insults is rediculous and carrying it over into a public area is even more so. Picking on trainees new players is weak.

JT you must be joking but then again most of the biased and crappy mods/admins are FUALL atm before it used to be TLE and FUALL before that yeh i can go on lol.

So offcourse you have to defend them .

I see your still stuck on stupid with the anti FUALL sentiment. It does not matter how good and consistent a mod does ..if thier a member of FUALL then thier crappy in your eyes and I am sure others eyes..ya know what? Cry me a river because your as insignificant now as you were back then. If thier doing a good job them I voice support for them I could care less for thier alliance association..if they do a bad job likewise regardless of alliance association..ask em..they wont lie on my behalf..

+1 and Nimras wonders why he gets massed LOL

[KnowLedge]

Make those Evil Dragons cry Grazzly.. Especially one that lives in village of leafs. They deserve it!!

[Robe]

All of this mod bashing is counterproductive and looks to me like manipulation by someone behind the scenes that will lead to an eventual beatdown like the old days, I think all parties ought to just stick a nipple in it and roll on..massing or harrassing over msn chats or insults is rediculous and carrying it over into a public area is even more so.

I was away when this erupted but it looks to me like Griz simply got fed up with a few players that have been repeatedly acting disrespectfully in our war thread and on MSN.

That is precisely what Vendettas are for - letting off steam!

[/r/]3] Ĕɱƿŷ says:
Rocky would be a terrrrrrrrrible Ombudsman
GrizzZzzly says:
whats wrong with Rocky?
·$1·#[BoT] ·$#26941B·&Eärendil·&·$1·# :: ·&Matt says:
i
do
not
[BoT]Andi says:
**Filtered**
·$1·#[BoT] ·$#26941B·&Eärendil·&·$1·# :: ·&Matt says:
like
how
GrizzZzzly says:
all you want Eari is someone easy to control
·$1·#[BoT] ·$#26941B·&Eärendil·&·$1·# :: ·&Matt says:
he
preforms
[/r/]3] Ĕɱƿŷ says:
He interprets the rules wrong
·$1·#[BoT] ·$#26941B·&Eärendil·&·$1·# :: ·&Matt says:
Grizz
the funny thing about that is
if the Oms fails
[/r/]3] Ĕɱƿŷ says:
wrong as in, like an idiot
·$1·#[BoT] ·$#26941B·&Eärendil·&·$1·# :: ·&Matt says:
WE/ The Admins can replace them
lulz
·$1·#[BoT] ·$#26941B·&Eärendil·&·$1·# :: ·&Matt says:
so i'm not worried about control
because they have no power
at all

I agree with Eärendil that the ombudusman has no power, which is why I discouraged anyone from TL in running for the job.

When Jason asked me to establish the Ombudsman Job Descriptions and election process a few years ago I envisaged the roles as being independent working along side Forum Admins.

However, my peers at the time disagreed (all of which is on record) which is why the positions report to the Forum Admins who have the final say on all complaints (whether they choose to excercise that right or not).

Position Descriptions - The Ombudsman
Purpose
The Ombudsman has a extremly important role. Chosen by the Forum Community to represent their best interest, the Ombudsman is required to provide unbiased opinion and fair judgments on matters of conflict between Forum Users and the Moderators.

Authority
The Ombudsman, supported by Forum Admins, is granted the powers to fully investigate any relevant issues in a complaint.

I disagree with Eärendil that Forum Admins can hire and fire Ombudsman at will (unless of course they decide to change the election process).