Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

[~Tziki~]

Bla bla bla, it doesn't matter who or what caused OE to die. What really matters is the longevity of one of the longest standing empires in this game... Now bring it back to life so we can have fun again

Save it whilst it can still be saved. So that there might be others who might have fun with it again

[Norbe]

but let's face it, OE has been at war with you guys dozens of times before without a dent being made in recruitment or player-retention.

Just to reply to this a little. I don't disagree that many key OE players left (youself included RM) in the past 7-8 months and that caused a major issue for OE. And I am sure each and every one of those players has their own personal reasons for choosing to leave. But had it not been for the wars OE fought against TÅF, against Ricos and against AG then i'm sure things would be different. Truth is that this time last year, OE was the biggest empire, had a lot of active players all who built and maintained big stats. That made wars against OE difficult, because those stats were costly to bring down. But one-by-one, throughout the various wars, all of those stats came down. I like to think that many of those players were so used to having stats that they could keep, losing them was difficult and they knew that the only way to rebuild was to leave OE. And so many chose to leave, because if they were still there now, they would be there sitting with 0 stats as others do.

Omega's real strength throughout the years, was the accounts that were around them, the Grand Alliance, CoP, FUALL. They abused that to bully and keep others from challenging them. Now they stand on their own. And without others to bail them out of the trouble they cause, they have lost almost everything.

If they continue to be too stubborn to come to us and seek an end to this, then that very small amount they have left will also be gone, and Omega will be nothing more than a story for new players to this game to hear. Whilst many of us would like to see them end once and for all, we also know that our sole purpose over the last 5+ years is to achieve that. Once it happens and Omega are no more, then we have nothing to play this game for. So I would personally rather see Omega surrender now and save what they have left, than just fade away like TSA did, or disband completely.

~Norbe~

[Black wolf]

well said there Norbe i totally agree with you, surrender now when there is still something left to build on

[dgb]

On my side i never want to see alliances fold it does the game no good, exactly why i said what i did a few months back to odin about tc and he put his team mates first then, oe should do the same now.

[RepliMagni]

Omega's real strength throughout the years, was the accounts that were around them, the Grand Alliance, CoP, FUALL. They abused that to bully and keep others from challenging them. Now they stand on their own. And without others to bail them out of the trouble they cause, they have lost almost everything.

Personally, I'd say their main strength was always in controlling the best accounts - either through alliance or recruitment. In the whole history of the game, there have only ever been a handful of powerhouse accounts not under their influence. c2 was a thorn in their side, but he was one of the few accounts actively against OE/Fuall for long periods outside of the server wars.

Now there are so many c38/9 accounts knocking around it is impossible....heck, HVE probably have more powerful accounts than OE now. Resources have become so cheap, that old means of control isn't possible. Add to that the fact that a lot of their own powerhouse accounts have left (and fuelled the possibility for others to get their hands on those accounts) and yes, the constant drain of wars, and OE isn't the power it once was....

Hopefully, it'll be like a phoenix and become more powerful than ever

[Lord-RahL]

Ok ok fine... I will give you this....

Congrats on waiting 5+ years to FINALLY hit us and keep us down when the majority of our members have already quit, are inactive, or only have partial time to spend on the game.

Congrats on knocking us down FINALLY when the game has passed its prime and noone really gives a damn anymore (not saying everyone dosnt care but sadly to many do).

I cant speak for Omega (not in council) but I try to do what I can when I can, and will continue to do so.. Im not a quitter, so ill try to always be in your loggs at some point!!

Good luck and have fun to all!!

RahL

Ok Rahl, it is my time to speak, let's sum it up

as your alliance went inactive, you all started telling that you HAVE personal lives and it is just a game and bla bla bla all kinda rhetorics. everyone knows that you done nothing during 5-6 years of this game but sitting there online 25/8!!! are you **Filtered** kidding me? HOW COME? i personally remember the time when you guys were on 24/7, when i fought against you while i was in my previous alliance, when we were inactives, you were whining about that, that we were inactives and such, then we had personal and real lives back in times and now and then, goddamnit EVERYONE HAS! but somehow it NOW happened that OE members started underlining that they have too. you know what guys, **Filtered** your double standards! just like this. as for me (and many of us) we are playing the game the way as we ever played u guys r whining that us, TAF members have no lives but sitting here and clicking the buttons..

o rly?

I am studing in university, doing my MA in International Relations, working in the ministry of foreign affairs, have my band i am touring with, people love our music (locally but.. yet) doing lives, with booze, vitamins and ladies, have one of the beautiful girl in the world my GF, resting, hanging out with my friends, snowboarding, enjoying life as hard as i can and not to mention, playing this game! and I KNOW rest of the TA do too! and how come you dare and come here and whine about that?

oh i forgot you are "MIGHTY" OE and you can do whatever you want in this game... well i guess year ago ladies, not now. it is all gone. face it like men. surrender, it is not a coward action.

cowards run, not surrender.


yes, that what personally i wanted mate, to keep your empire out, just to burn the **Filtered** out of your empire. i always tried to give my advice diplomatically every HC i had in alliances i have been just to put equilibrium in this game, at least i tried yes FINALLY and i second this, FINALLY, i am telling y'all i had my personal paybacks for each and every one member of OE within alliance, just to put you down like you once did for me, did for my bunch of people, bunch of friends, my alliance, my home. Now as i am the part of seers/doers of your remnants, i watch back and i do not regret any action i've made. i always was against you guys, no matter on battlefield, action or in the shadows. You always made a weather in this game and made this game interesting (as my friend SHIZZZO said in his leaving thread), but not anymore, now All your kingdoms turned to dust. What is done, must be one. Pawn is moved, seal is broken, History is made. you are gone. and i am glad i was in.
And first of all consider this, personally from me, is a payback, revenge i always sought.
Even if i was the last "SITH" out there.
i repeat, i was/am part of it!

PERSONALLY FROM ME - THIS IS PAYBACK FOR:


N E M E S I S!


Now i am out, going back on battlefield.. your friend, your enemy, rover, wanderer, nomad vagabond call me what you will

Lasha/Lucian/VAGA


P.S.

Sorry for long and boring post.

cheers

Hum... I think I can reply to this...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Their are so many inaccuracy's with your post its hilarious.

You all keep saying that you have "put us down" when in reality it is just a few from the TA family that are continually hitting us and they know who they are, the rest of you are just scavengers who hit for the occasional bit of naq and UU, so yea well done indeed.

I was massed, I massed back, was massed again, and this will continue to happen as this is how the game is played, this is how we have played the game the whole time it has been around.

Some ppl have ill will towards me for the things I and my alliance have done and I guess that is understandable when you only see 1 side of us and what we do. Me personally I have no ill feelings towards anyone in game I play it as best I can if I get beat then I get beat, learn from it and go on!!


RahL

[SHIZZZO]

[spoiler]

Ok ok fine... I will give you this....

Congrats on waiting 5+ years to FINALLY hit us and keep us down when the majority of our members have already quit, are inactive, or only have partial time to spend on the game.

Congrats on knocking us down FINALLY when the game has passed its prime and noone really gives a damn anymore (not saying everyone dosnt care but sadly to many do).

I cant speak for Omega (not in council) but I try to do what I can when I can, and will continue to do so.. Im not a quitter, so ill try to always be in your loggs at some point!!

Good luck and have fun to all!!

RahL

Ok Rahl, it is my time to speak, let's sum it up

as your alliance went inactive, you all started telling that you HAVE personal lives and it is just a game and bla bla bla all kinda rhetorics. everyone knows that you done nothing during 5-6 years of this game but sitting there online 25/8!!! are you **Filtered** kidding me? HOW COME? i personally remember the time when you guys were on 24/7, when i fought against you while i was in my previous alliance, when we were inactives, you were whining about that, that we were inactives and such, then we had personal and real lives back in times and now and then, goddamnit EVERYONE HAS! but somehow it NOW happened that OE members started underlining that they have too. you know what guys, **Filtered** your double standards! just like this. as for me (and many of us) we are playing the game the way as we ever played u guys r whining that us, TAF members have no lives but sitting here and clicking the buttons..

o rly?

I am studing in university, doing my MA in International Relations, working in the ministry of foreign affairs, have my band i am touring with, people love our music (locally but.. yet) doing lives, with booze, vitamins and ladies, have one of the beautiful girl in the world my GF, resting, hanging out with my friends, snowboarding, enjoying life as hard as i can and not to mention, playing this game! and I KNOW rest of the TA do too! and how come you dare and come here and whine about that?

oh i forgot you are "MIGHTY" OE and you can do whatever you want in this game... well i guess year ago ladies, not now. it is all gone. face it like men. surrender, it is not a coward action.

cowards run, not surrender.


yes, that what personally i wanted mate, to keep your empire out, just to burn the **Filtered** out of your empire. i always tried to give my advice diplomatically every HC i had in alliances i have been just to put equilibrium in this game, at least i tried yes FINALLY and i second this, FINALLY, i am telling y'all i had my personal paybacks for each and every one member of OE within alliance, just to put you down like you once did for me, did for my bunch of people, bunch of friends, my alliance, my home. Now as i am the part of seers/doers of your remnants, i watch back and i do not regret any action i've made. i always was against you guys, no matter on battlefield, action or in the shadows. You always made a weather in this game and made this game interesting (as my friend SHIZZZO said in his leaving thread), but not anymore, now All your kingdoms turned to dust. What is done, must be one. Pawn is moved, seal is broken, History is made. you are gone. and i am glad i was in.
And first of all consider this, personally from me, is a payback, revenge i always sought.
Even if i was the last "SITH" out there.
i repeat, i was/am part of it!

PERSONALLY FROM ME - THIS IS PAYBACK FOR:


N E M E S I S!


Now i am out, going back on battlefield.. your friend, your enemy, rover, wanderer, nomad vagabond call me what you will

Lasha/Lucian/VAGA


P.S.

Sorry for long and boring post.

cheers

Hum... I think I can reply to this...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Their are so many inaccuracy's with your post its hilarious.

You all keep saying that you have "put us down" when in reality it is just a few from the TA family that are continually hitting us and they know who they are, the rest of you are just scavengers who hit for the occasional bit of naq and UU, so yea well done indeed.

I was massed, I massed back, was massed again, and this will continue to happen as this is how the game is played, this is how we have played the game the whole time it has been around.

Some ppl have ill will towards me for the things I and my alliance have done and I guess that is understandable when you only see 1 side of us and what we do. Me personally I have no ill feelings towards anyone in game I play it as best I can if I get beat then I get beat, learn from it and go on!![/spoiler]

Actually Rahl you were one of those that I liked a bit on OE when I played this awesome game eventhough you were being an ass Otherwise the only "grudge" I hold on you is when you alliance ppted (I think it was you ) when we started the initial massing of the entire OE, damn would have been lots of kills that night.

Other than that, OE was an influential alliance now it went to decay, acknowledge it or well be set on. Even Rome did not last forever (I know Legion will disagree if they are still here )

Me out, Cheers to my TA bros!

[Fallen Gabriel]

but let's face it, OE has been at war with you guys dozens of times before without a dent being made in recruitment or player-retention.

Just to reply to this a little. I don't disagree that many key OE players left (youself included RM) in the past 7-8 months and that caused a major issue for OE. And I am sure each and every one of those players has their own personal reasons for choosing to leave. But had it not been for the wars OE fought against TÅF, against Ricos and against AG then i'm sure things would be different. Truth is that this time last year, OE was the biggest empire, had a lot of active players all who built and maintained big stats. That made wars against OE difficult, because those stats were costly to bring down. But one-by-one, throughout the various wars, all of those stats came down. I like to think that many of those players were so used to having stats that they could keep, losing them was difficult and they knew that the only way to rebuild was to leave OE. And so many chose to leave, because if they were still there now, they would be there sitting with 0 stats as others do.

Omega's real strength throughout the years, was the accounts that were around them, the Grand Alliance, CoP, FUALL. They abused that to bully and keep others from challenging them. Now they stand on their own. And without others to bail them out of the trouble they cause, they have lost almost everything.

If they continue to be too stubborn to come to us and seek an end to this, then that very small amount they have left will also be gone, and Omega will be nothing more than a story for new players to this game to hear. Whilst many of us would like to see them end once and for all, we also know that our sole purpose over the last 5+ years is to achieve that. Once it happens and Omega are no more, then we have nothing to play this game for. So I would personally rather see Omega surrender now and save what they have left, than just fade away like TSA did, or disband completely.

~Norbe~

I love you norbe,finally someone remembered our part in this..

[VAGAB0ND]

Ok ok fine... I will give you this....

Congrats on waiting 5+ years to FINALLY hit us and keep us down when the majority of our members have already quit, are inactive, or only have partial time to spend on the game.

Congrats on knocking us down FINALLY when the game has passed its prime and noone really gives a damn anymore (not saying everyone dosnt care but sadly to many do).

I cant speak for Omega (not in council) but I try to do what I can when I can, and will continue to do so.. Im not a quitter, so ill try to always be in your loggs at some point!!

Good luck and have fun to all!!

RahL

Ok Rahl, it is my time to speak, let's sum it up

as your alliance went inactive, you all started telling that you HAVE personal lives and it is just a game and bla bla bla all kinda rhetorics. everyone knows that you done nothing during 5-6 years of this game but sitting there online 25/8!!! are you **Filtered** kidding me? HOW COME? i personally remember the time when you guys were on 24/7, when i fought against you while i was in my previous alliance, when we were inactives, you were whining about that, that we were inactives and such, then we had personal and real lives back in times and now and then, goddamnit EVERYONE HAS! but somehow it NOW happened that OE members started underlining that they have too. you know what guys, **Filtered** your double standards! just like this. as for me (and many of us) we are playing the game the way as we ever played u guys r whining that us, TAF members have no lives but sitting here and clicking the buttons..

o rly?

I am studing in university, doing my MA in International Relations, working in the ministry of foreign affairs, have my band i am touring with, people love our music (locally but.. yet) doing lives, with booze, vitamins and ladies, have one of the beautiful girl in the world my GF, resting, hanging out with my friends, snowboarding, enjoying life as hard as i can and not to mention, playing this game! and I KNOW rest of the TA do too! and how come you dare and come here and whine about that?

oh i forgot you are "MIGHTY" OE and you can do whatever you want in this game... well i guess year ago ladies, not now. it is all gone. face it like men. surrender, it is not a coward action.

cowards run, not surrender.


yes, that what personally i wanted mate, to keep your empire out, just to burn the **Filtered** out of your empire. i always tried to give my advice diplomatically every HC i had in alliances i have been just to put equilibrium in this game, at least i tried yes FINALLY and i second this, FINALLY, i am telling y'all i had my personal paybacks for each and every one member of OE within alliance, just to put you down like you once did for me, did for my bunch of people, bunch of friends, my alliance, my home. Now as i am the part of seers/doers of your remnants, i watch back and i do not regret any action i've made. i always was against you guys, no matter on battlefield, action or in the shadows. You always made a weather in this game and made this game interesting (as my friend SHIZZZO said in his leaving thread), but not anymore, now All your kingdoms turned to dust. What is done, must be one. Pawn is moved, seal is broken, History is made. you are gone. and i am glad i was in.
And first of all consider this, personally from me, is a payback, revenge i always sought.
Even if i was the last "SITH" out there.
i repeat, i was/am part of it!

PERSONALLY FROM ME - THIS IS PAYBACK FOR:


N E M E S I S!


Now i am out, going back on battlefield.. your friend, your enemy, rover, wanderer, nomad vagabond call me what you will

Lasha/Lucian/VAGA


P.S.

Sorry for long and boring post.

cheers

Hum... I think I can reply to this...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Their (THERE) are so many inaccuracy's with your post its hilarious.

You all keep saying that you have "put us down" when in reality it is just a few from the TA family that are continually hitting us and they know who they are, the rest of you are just scavengers who hit for the occasional bit of naq and UU, so yea well done indeed.

I was massed, I massed back, was massed again, and this will continue to happen as this is how the game is played, this is how we have played the game the whole time it has been around.

Some ppl have ill will towards me for the things I and my alliance have done and I guess that is understandable when you only see 1 side of us and what we do. Me personally I have no ill feelings towards anyone in game I play it as best I can if I get beat then I get beat, learn from it and go on!!


RahL

That's because english is not my native language but i know you understand what i mean... oh and since you are trying to impress me with your grammar, consider that THERE ARE and not THIER ARE and then criticize me

c'moon rahl, what you guys do, you guys sit back and do nothing lol and i never hit anyone if i have no stats and for you to know scavengers are where the RUBBISH is

ZZZZZZING!

[Mathlord]

Omega's real strength throughout the years, was the accounts that were around them, the Grand Alliance, CoP, FUALL. They abused that to bully and keep others from challenging them. Now they stand on their own. And without others to bail them out of the trouble they cause, they have lost almost everything.

Personally, I'd say their main strength was always in controlling the best accounts - either through alliance or recruitment. In the whole history of the game, there have only ever been a handful of powerhouse accounts not under their influence. c2 was a thorn in their side, but he was one of the few accounts actively against OE/Fuall for long periods outside of the server wars.

Now there are so many c38/9 accounts knocking around it is impossible....heck, HVE probably have more powerful accounts than OE now. Resources have become so cheap, that old means of control isn't possible. Add to that the fact that a lot of their own powerhouse accounts have left (and fuelled the possibility for others to get their hands on those accounts) and yes, the constant drain of wars, and OE isn't the power it once was....

Hopefully, it'll be like a phoenix and become more powerful than ever

TAF has for a long time been working and developing to catch up in the arms race. We have been behind, sometimes far behind, since 2005, but our goal has always been to have an even footing with our enemies in base power stats. I may be a little biased, but I've always believed we've housed many of the best fighters in this game who had to learn all the tricks and skills possible to defend and fight against accounts twice our power and size. Well now we are on even footing. This war has been a great example of what TAF can do when given even footing with our enemies. Sure people like ETL still have a monster account but we proved that his 40/39 could not stop us. We bled billions and billions of uu from you, quads of naq over and over as you tried in vain to rebuild or to bring us down.

You are more than welcome to keep your pride by claiming the demise of OE had nothing to do with us. That is your choice...All we have ever done is fight for survival and the honor of our alliance and that is what we will continue to do.

Again, I say, see reason and end this lunacy before there's nothing left to save.

[Ryuujin Jakka]

I do agree that omega are truly down at the moment

Huxley has been a fortress for omega not the best player but has kept it up quite a while

Omega still have some strong charicters left and it would be bet just to let this one go


How er I do agree with repli that when AG was made every empire in this game trembled
1. A lot of good players together ones that could of easily fought with the best of them

2. Omega had multiple people trying to spy on AG shows how scared they were
3. No offense fm but you were in AG for TL and thats that


Omega has been pounded on hard over the past year

Tag ricos AG ect ... Any empire would crumble

[Lord-RahL]

Ok ok fine... I will give you this....

Congrats on waiting 5+ years to FINALLY hit us and keep us down when the majority of our members have already quit, are inactive, or only have partial time to spend on the game.

Congrats on knocking us down FINALLY when the game has passed its prime and noone really gives a damn anymore (not saying everyone dosnt care but sadly to many do).

I cant speak for Omega (not in council) but I try to do what I can when I can, and will continue to do so.. Im not a quitter, so ill try to always be in your loggs at some point!!

Good luck and have fun to all!!

RahL

Ok Rahl, it is my time to speak, let's sum it up

as your alliance went inactive, you all started telling that you HAVE personal lives and it is just a game and bla bla bla all kinda rhetorics. everyone knows that you done nothing during 5-6 years of this game but sitting there online 25/8!!! are you **Filtered** kidding me? HOW COME? i personally remember the time when you guys were on 24/7, when i fought against you while i was in my previous alliance, when we were inactives, you were whining about that, that we were inactives and such, then we had personal and real lives back in times and now and then, goddamnit EVERYONE HAS! but somehow it NOW happened that OE members started underlining that they have too. you know what guys, **Filtered** your double standards! just like this. as for me (and many of us) we are playing the game the way as we ever played u guys r whining that us, TAF members have no lives but sitting here and clicking the buttons..

o rly?

I am studing in university, doing my MA in International Relations, working in the ministry of foreign affairs, have my band i am touring with, people love our music (locally but.. yet) doing lives, with booze, vitamins and ladies, have one of the beautiful girl in the world my GF, resting, hanging out with my friends, snowboarding, enjoying life as hard as i can and not to mention, playing this game! and I KNOW rest of the TA do too! and how come you dare and come here and whine about that?

oh i forgot you are "MIGHTY" OE and you can do whatever you want in this game... well i guess year ago ladies, not now. it is all gone. face it like men. surrender, it is not a coward action.

cowards run, not surrender.


yes, that what personally i wanted mate, to keep your empire out, just to burn the **Filtered** out of your empire. i always tried to give my advice diplomatically every HC i had in alliances i have been just to put equilibrium in this game, at least i tried yes FINALLY and i second this, FINALLY, i am telling y'all i had my personal paybacks for each and every one member of OE within alliance, just to put you down like you once did for me, did for my bunch of people, bunch of friends, my alliance, my home. Now as i am the part of seers/doers of your remnants, i watch back and i do not regret any action i've made. i always was against you guys, no matter on battlefield, action or in the shadows. You always made a weather in this game and made this game interesting (as my friend SHIZZZO said in his leaving thread), but not anymore, now All your kingdoms turned to dust. What is done, must be one. Pawn is moved, seal is broken, History is made. you are gone. and i am glad i was in.
And first of all consider this, personally from me, is a payback, revenge i always sought.
Even if i was the last "SITH" out there.
i repeat, i was/am part of it!

PERSONALLY FROM ME - THIS IS PAYBACK FOR:


N E M E S I S!


Now i am out, going back on battlefield.. your friend, your enemy, rover, wanderer, nomad vagabond call me what you will

Lasha/Lucian/VAGA


P.S.

Sorry for long and boring post.

cheers

Hum... I think I can reply to this...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Their (THERE) are so many inaccuracy's with your post its hilarious.

You all keep saying that you have "put us down" when in reality it is just a few from the TA family that are continually hitting us and they know who they are, the rest of you are just scavengers who hit for the occasional bit of naq and UU, so yea well done indeed.

I was massed, I massed back, was massed again, and this will continue to happen as this is how the game is played, this is how we have played the game the whole time it has been around.

Some ppl have ill will towards me for the things I and my alliance have done and I guess that is understandable when you only see 1 side of us and what we do. Me personally I have no ill feelings towards anyone in game I play it as best I can if I get beat then I get beat, learn from it and go on!!


RahL

That's because english is not my native language but i know you understand what i mean... oh and since you are trying to impress me with your grammar, consider that THERE ARE and not THIER ARE and then criticize me

c'moon rahl, what you guys do, you guys sit back and do nothing lol and i never hit anyone if i have no stats and for you to know scavengers are where the RUBBISH is

ZZZZZZING!

For the record the inaccuracies I was talking about was in the so called "facts" that you posted. I would not comment on your grammar as I know mine is not that well either..

RahL

[doc holliday]

math you need to upgrade your MS more

[dgb]

lol doc number 1 now math number 2 he he sort that ms out math.

[doc holliday]

i got an idea. Omega.. You guys could surrender now.. Then rebuild and recruit.. and then sneak attack mass us in a few months... just to mix it up a bit