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Calesta
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market misuse

using the market as a bank shouldnt be allowed
it is a misuse of the market. another way to keep loot from being in the open
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Re: market misuse

I agree, and taking suggestions in relation to stop its exploitation.

Current line of thinking is as follows:
*10% fee when cancelling a trade
*Bank upgrades cheaper (50%), and provide several steps up, and not just one at a time
*Adjust weapon re-sell values slightly

Taking other suggestions :D
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Re: market misuse

how about just looking at the market daily and see who is doing it since its happening as we speak
currently no person in the game has over 4000 uu so why is this broker up? obvious misuse
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Re: market misuse

Because what happens when I'm away.

But for the interim, I'll put a 50% fee on, till we can sort something out.
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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Re: market misuse

fair enough
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Re: market misuse

Proposed by someone ingame. Did not want to be named on forum.
I think there should also be a 15-30min grace period in which you can cancel your "broker" in case you make a mistake. After that time, you cannot cancel for 8h, after which you lose 50% of resource X
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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<+CABAL> so adminHere, ever thought about playing SGW? :b
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<+Sarevok> Cabal, look up Jtest ;)
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Re: market misuse

Sarevok wrote:Proposed by someone ingame. Did not want to be named on forum.
I think there should also be a 15-30min grace period in which you can cancel your "broker" in case you make a mistake. After that time, you cannot cancel for 8h, after which you lose 50% of resource X
Makes sense. ;)
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Re: market misuse

Personally I think 50% is a little steep. If for some reason the market skyrockets or crashes over night whilst you sleep, then your trade may well be out of date, and the only way to update the exchange rate, would be to accept a 50% loss.
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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<+CABAL> :o
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<~adminHere> another :) i am a multi ;)
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Re: market misuse

It does not appear that there are anymore comments to Saverok's post, if anyone needs this re-opened, please PM myself or another mod.

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Re: market misuse

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Re: market misuse

I believe there is another way to use the market as a bank.
If there are two players who want to store x amount of naq each, they can both make an offer of y amount of uu's for x amount of naq. Then they both accept each other's offer and there's x amount of naq they can take from the market whenever they want, unless there is some sort of time limit after which the player automatically collects the naq which I didn't notice.
Anyway, if I'm right, I would suggest that if someone's trade offer is accepted, he would automatically collect the naq/uu's 48 hours after his/her first log in after the trade is accepted.
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Re: market misuse

ljietuvis wrote:I believe there is another way to use the market as a bank.
If there are two players who want to store x amount of naq each, they can both make an offer of y amount of uu's for x amount of naq. Then they both accept each other's offer and there's x amount of naq they can take from the market whenever they want, unless there is some sort of time limit after which the player automatically collects the naq which I didn't notice.
Anyway, if I'm right, I would suggest that if someone's trade offer is accepted, he would automatically collect the naq/uu's 48 hours after his/her first log in after the trade is accepted.
This would be risky, but I see the logic behind this. Any suggestion about a work around?

(First thing that popped into my head was a 10% unit loss[like main] on UU exchanges)
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R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
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<+CABAL> so adminHere, ever thought about playing SGW? :b
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<+Sarevok> Cabal, look up Jtest ;)
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<~adminHere> another :) i am a multi ;)
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Re: market misuse

units lost on main are only 1%. :)
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Re: market misuse

Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote:units lost on main are only 1%. :)
Right, and Main also has raiding :razz:

Any rate, do people have suggestions for a method to prevent this?
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=162732
Suggestions, Comments please :)
R8 wrote:TEAM WORK WILL BEAT $$ ANYDAY OF THE WEEK
angel wrote:Except the payday [-X
12agnar0k wrote:Also it's still not a war game, you have att/def weps yes, but you also have uu and UP, does this mean its a sex game, oh no, XRATEDSGW, THIS GAME IS PORN!
Ban Admin
<+CABAL> so adminHere, ever thought about playing SGW? :b
<~adminHere> cabal - i do :)
<+CABAL> :o
<+Sarevok> Cabal, look up Jtest ;)
<~adminHere> no -not jtest
<~adminHere> another :) i am a multi ;)
<+Sarevok> :O
* +CABAL screens
<+CABAL> :b
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Re: market misuse

I need to understand this a little better.

There is no option for me to cancel my market offering? So, is this in reference to the time out on the trades (12 hours)?
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Field Marshall wrote:
Sol wrote:It's not going to destroy your life :P
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High Empty wrote:however people shouldn't have lvl 33 and 200mil spies and try to be in the top 10, it's unhealthy.
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