G&R points for not ascended accounts

[Bahamut]

why would we end this?

It's my compromise to this.

since when it is forbiden to present ideas and disccus about them?

I don't recall getting that memo, but when a thread reaches 10 pages, (fairly!) something needs to be done.

u know guys at the begining there was no ascension at all!

I'm aware of that! I joined in Feb '05! I remember when there wasn't a bank! (No joke!)

Time for a new sig...

ok...this is all i am seeing is a ascneded player VS a non ascned fest on this thread.....

For the record, I am not an ascended, I don't want to ascend, and I never will ascend.

@ NoDot
if you have nothing good to say about the ideas then dont say them at all

This thread is over 10 pages! We needed some sort of compromise. I suggested one!

LOL all your answers seems like shoot in what ever

it reached 10 pages that is your reason for locking down? LMAO
Go and hit wall with your head maybe things become more clearer

u said u are not ascended and that u wont ascend?
did u read all 10 pages or just came to post at the end ?

@ NoDot & [™§£KHM£†]

if u read all topic u will find that those upgrades would be presented via new technology (it is somewhere on page 3 or 4)

@ [™§£KHM£†]

i don't see reason why those new technologies should be allowed for ascended accounts, they allready have their unique technologies what u want more?
ASCENDED BLESSING is more then enough!
and with those weapons 5k something i really don't see why this new addon should be shared with ascension accounts

Once again i will repeat the hole idea is more detaild explained somewhere in this topic, so until u quote right thing don't bother us with repeating nonsences!

[Unknown]

@ Unknown
and since when did making a choice is a fualt...

Well..... its your choice but don't moan when you don't get the benefits if you don't ascend! LoL thats a simple asnswer.

And ascention is not getting easier.... the thing is there are now 2 spy levels to buy to get rank.... we still loose alot of UU (unless you have alot of UU then it is harder - the big players that chose not to ascend had big UP and now have even bigger ups as they have been able to exploit there higher UPs whilst keeping high stats..
The answer is simple - just ascend if you chose not to... then don't moan you have no arguement as the option is there for you to get the bonus if you want.

You cant have the best of both worlds - which it would be.

I ascended late because i wanted to see if it made any difference if you saved up G&r or if you just went up straight away... and i learnt that if i stay down you just fall behind.. plus you have to pay more to ascend... but i did as i wanted the bonuses.. - its a risk and a choice.

But if you want bonuses and to stay down you already have them by having your higher UP and spy levels etc...

The bonuses the ascended get is for the sacrifice they take.
The only people this will benefit from the proposed is the big players who chose not to ascend and fell into the trap of trying to get ahead in main but they eventually got caught and realised it costs too much to ascend.

If you want bonuses - admin can start a NEW bonus system for people who do not ascend or people who stay down. They should get NOTHING from G & R points as they CHOSE NOT TO ASCEND and so not take the option of the bonus.

New points can be made for people who don't ascend and everyone can have the option of them from when that comes out.

[[ZerO]]

@ [™§£KHM£†]

i don't see reason why those new technologies should be allowed for ascended accounts, they allready have their unique technologies what u want more?
ASCENDED BLESSING is more then enough!
and with those weapons 5k something i really don't see why this new addon should be shared with ascension accounts

Once again i will repeat the hole idea is more detaild explained somewhere in this topic, so until u quote right thing don't bother us with repeating nonsences!

The reason is, that with your upgrades, you too, can have the power of an ascended being...given enough time. You dont seems to understand that one point, or you choose to ignore it because doing so is the keystone in the arch of your ideas. Regardless of your reasoning, it cannot be ignored that G&R were brought for Ascension..nothing else.

[Bahamut]

@ [™§£KHM£†]

i don't see reason why those new technologies should be allowed for ascended accounts, they allready have their unique technologies what u want more?
ASCENDED BLESSING is more then enough!
and with those weapons 5k something i really don't see why this new addon should be shared with ascension accounts

Once again i will repeat the hole idea is more detaild explained somewhere in this topic, so until u quote right thing don't bother us with repeating nonsences!

The reason is, that with your upgrades, you too, can have the power of an ascended being...given enough time. You dont seems to understand that one point, or you choose to ignore it because doing so is the keystone in the arch of your ideas. Regardless of your reasoning, it cannot be ignored that G&R were brought for Ascension..nothing else.

LOL

we can have power of ascended being, how?

just to let u know goa'uld benefit curently isn't 25% but 20% for income

and with full upgrades to customized account there would be total +50% benefits so i don't see how u can compare that to +100% that ascended accounts get after 5 ascensions.

and again ASCENDED BLESSING

just because we aren't ascednded don't think that we don't know about ascension upgrades

[[ZerO]]

ok...w/e im over it ::cliks stop watching this topic::

[Bahamut]

what is problem with u guys anyway ?

u seem like little children!

can't u objetivlly look from other side?

u all look, like u are center of the universe!

look at it this way.

u just began playing

u have covert level 5 and up 30 by day and one super weapon!

how is this looking to some guy who wants to play but doesn't have all day for playing gw!
maybe that one has like top 3 hours dailly to play but not 3 hours in a row, he has like 10 × 18 min but still want's to play.

what do u think how this game looks to such person?

[Unknown]

So if you are just starting then G & R should have nothing to do with it. Start a new points system from now called "its my choice not to ascend bonus system (IMCNTA)" - available to anyone staying down.... and theres no problem. Just don't try and get use of the G & R - as from day 1 you had were made aware how you got use of them. (well we knew they had something to do with ascention anyway).

[Bahamut]

So if you are just starting then G & R should have nothing to do with it. Start a new points system from now called "its my choice not to ascend bonus system (IMCNTA)" - available to anyone staying down.... and theres no problem. Just don't try and get use of the G & R - as from day 1 you had were made aware how you got use of them. (well we knew they had something to do with ascention anyway).

sorry but u completly missed point

[[SGC_ReplicÅtors]]

Ok this idea is just a idea.....you have 2 choices


First u accumalte the GR points needed and u have 3 options

1. Acension
2. Technology
3. No path

You pick AScnesion you can never go the technology pah
you pick the Technology Path you could never go ASnesion
No path....means u havent picked a choice

[Unknown]

Where is our choice now? If this happens it means that the people who chose not to ascend have a distinct advantage as they now could make use of the G & R they have accumulated. If you want this type of thing to happen the slate HAS to be wiped clean and the option given to everybody again. Then everyone has the choice again.

You shouldn't get a bonus from something that wasn't meant as a bonus for people that didn't ascend.

It wont happen anyway as it only poses an advantage for the big players who chose notto ascend to try and gain an advantage but have now realised it hasn't worked.
It has no advantage to noobs.

It all boils down to the fact that you chose not to ascend and chose not to take the bonus. Use your bonus points and ascend. Otherwise ask for a new set of bonus points to be started for people that choose to stay normal.

At the end of the day it's not gonna happen anyway coz it distinctly is only intended to aid the big players that chose to stay down and now want a boost for there wrong choice... it wouldn't benefit noobs at all.

[NoDot]

@ NoDot & [™§£KHM£†]

if u read all topic u will find that those upgrades would be presented via new technology (it is somewhere on page 3 or 4)

You want ascension powers without ascending. That's what I got from this thread. I don't like that.

Your argument has been "the player's time", or rather the lack thereof. I say, "I don't care." If you want to do well, then you have to buckle down and play hard. This game doesn't cater to wimps.

My personal challenge is this: at some point, I will become #1, and I will hold that for as long as I can. I want the challenge from the ascended accounts. All you're trying to do is making it a lot easier.

[Bahamut]

no i don't wont ascension powers

i never said that i want ascension powers

can u find anywhere that i wrote we want ascension powers but we don't wont to ascend ?

[NoDot]

no i don't wont ascension powers

i never said that i want ascension powers

can u find anywhere that i wrote we want ascension powers but we don't wont to ascend ?

That's the gist of what you've been saying. Flat out, you don't want to ascend, and you want to do something with the G&R points you have, but you don't want to play two accounts. I've suggested an idea to deal with that.

[[SGC_ReplicÅtors]]

No the ascnesion points are rewards to players that keep there ranks in the top what ever percentage range. In the begining when GR points was implemeneted ppl didnt no what they where for but ppl wanted them and made them increase there ranks so they could be rewarded theses points but soon after ppl found out it was for ascension.

WHen GR came out i wanted them just becuase, i never knew what they where for.. didnt care until i found out what they where for. And i was kinda dissapointed that these points where only for ascension now what about those players that work hard to get those points that dont want to ascned i worked hard as the next person who ascended....

....seems to me that players right now dont need to work hard to asnceded 5x. Its the same tactic again and again....PPT all the way to the top sit there ascend again repeat...and dont tell me it gets costlier...cuase ppl with massive Miners can esaily gain those back.

better yet lets take a vote on this will see what other think its too confined to us lets spread th word about this idea and let other decide!

[[ZerO]]

sorry but u completly missed point

I did say I was not going to watch this topic, but a note came to me anyway....Bahamut, I would like you to know that I have looked at this idea of yours as objectively as I can. Of course I am biased, based on the fact that I did so much for my power potential. However, for you to come on here and call me childish, is in itself childish.. Look at every post from another where they disagree with you...you tell them exactly what you told Unknown above..."you missed the point"... well...i didnt miss the point, and neither did Unknown..in fact, I think that we hit the nail right on the head when we said that you were trying to come up with a way to get away from using all the resources that multiple ascensions require. It is for this reason that your only answer to our rebuttle is "you missed the point". You say we are acting childish?....well I charge you with he same foul by your own standards....hows this for childish....your idea SUCKS.
Put it to the Gate Wars Forum test....make a poll!

Sincerly,
Imrubberyourglue Whateveryousaybouncesoffmeandsticks2u
(again...me being childish)