this game has changed a lot

[Orpheus]

It remains the same.

Increasing the number of planets within your expanse will increase the amount of APP converted oper turn.

hmmm
howmuch do i need to expand to increase ?
went from 0 to 500mil planets and still the same

[Rodwolf]

As a byproduct of this thread viewtopic.php?f=32&t=195959&start=30, I'm doing what I should have done awhile ago and made the APP -> LF conversion automatically occur so I can moderate it into a supplement to farming, not (as it is) a direct injection of steroids into the eyeball.

What effectively will happen is this:
- APP will convert automatically into LF every turn change, down to 18k app ish still allowing for turn conversions ( remembering for every turn conversion all app will be converted anyway).
- APP to lf soft cap will be removed as it would be illogical (100 t per 5 months).
- The larger your planet count the more LF you will convert automatically per turn change. Vice versa the smaller your planet count is (trying not to give too much power to noobs).
- The change plateaus at 400 bill per turn and maximizes at 1 trill.

Currently:
100 trill @ 10 bill planet count will be converted in 154 days
100 trill @ 20 bill planet count will be converted in 130 days
100 trill @ 1 bill = 250 days

I have created a basic rigorous model if you wish to see what I'm thinking (or talking about):
http://ascended.gatewars.com/lfperturn.php

No idea if the calculator is still correct though

[Orpheus]

so that means the bigger you get the faster you can grow

means that you never can meet up with the guys on top ....

hmmm, why should i even try then ????

[harchester]

so that means the bigger you get the faster you can grow

means that you never can meet up with the guys on top ....

hmmm, why should i even try then ????

You could with a certain account

[D3ath]

so that means the bigger you get the faster you can grow

means that you never can meet up with the guys on top ....

hmmm, why should i even try then ????

You could with a certain account

like mine which is built as a top one in ascended

[harchester]

so that means the bigger you get the faster you can grow

means that you never can meet up with the guys on top ....

hmmm, why should i even try then ????

You could with a certain account

like mine which is built as a top one in ascended

Lol ur account sucks

[Clockwork]

so that means the bigger you get the faster you can grow

means that you never can meet up with the guys on top ....

hmmm, why should i even try then ????

The amount your account can grow from APP is nothing compared to how it can grow from farming. While you will never overtake an existing well established account if you both farm the same, you will catch up in levels to a point where it does not really matter anymore, simply because of how expensive it becomes to increase levels after a certain point.

With the amount of DMU floating around these days, catching up has never been easier.

[Orpheus]

so that means the bigger you get the faster you can grow

means that you never can meet up with the guys on top ....

hmmm, why should i even try then ????

The amount your account can grow from APP is nothing compared to how it can grow from farming. While you will never overtake an existing well established account if you both farm the same, you will catch up in levels to a point where it does not really matter anymore, simply because of how expensive it becomes to increase levels after a certain point.

With the amount of DMU floating around these days, catching up has never been easier.

true, the amounts of dmu in the open are vast
and easy to farm
the only problem i face so far is i am still so small ( allthough i reached 1 bil planets today houray houray ) i am limited on farming the smaller amounts, i can find hits of 150tril dmu, but those are rather limited. so yes my fleets are cheeper compared to yours, but my farm posibilities are smaller aswell, but that is something that time will solve...
next year i hope to be included in the big boy accounts

[D3ath]

150t hits are a waste of turns

[Orpheus]

150t hits are a waste of turns

when the cosmospages exist of 3/4 accounts with following added : [Too Small To Engage] i have not much choice ...
i only have a 1bil planet account at the moment, and i can search till my retirement but much bigger hits then 150tril naq on accounts with max 5 bil planets are not that easy to find

[Clockwork]

You will get to the 5b expansion cap* fairly quickly, just keep investing in your fleets and charisma As soon as you get to 5b your going to be able to hit everybody up to 25b planets, so the cosmos is your oyster.

*After your expanse reaches 5b planets, you start to suffer diminishing returns on finding new planets.

[Orpheus]

You will get to the 5b expansion cap* fairly quickly, just keep investing in your fleets and charisma As soon as you get to 5b your going to be able to hit everybody up to 25b planets, so the cosmos is your oyster.

*After your expanse reaches 5b planets, you start to suffer diminishing returns on finding new planets.

hmmm i really really like oysters ...

[zogeanking2]

http://ascended.gatewars.com/lfperturn.php

No idea if the calculator is still correct though

Yes the calculator works. I did a rough calculation on it from what I had already done using my computer calculator and it matches up.

[Orpheus]

Days until all received = 302

looks like next year will be fun

ps, untill you reach 2bil planetsize the pay out remains the same
once passed the cap of 2 bil the pay out increases daily

so my suggestion to all new players is not to waste any life force or dmu on anything except charisma and fleets untill you reach the 2bil cap. from then build up otherstuff starting with personal stats covert/defense/attack so you can start farming once you hit the 2.5 - 3bil cap as from there on you can hit the nice amounts of dmu everyone is talking of

[Orpheus]

is there a way to save your farmlist while ascending ?