Need a Code to Log in!

[Wolf359]

It's not the actual code itself that is supposed to be the deterrent - but the process of entering it.

but doesn't that seem to escape logic? i mean at least to me.... if the person has a script to login... they could write a new script to autobank using the same number.... since our genius put the same number as the bank numb

You're arguing with the wrong person - I believe the login code is a waste of time as it can easily be overcome by logging in and then creating a script that refreshes the page before the autologout kicks in. The code itself can be read - as a fellow player of mine has demonstrated - so, if it can be read then it can be made to be input into the code login box.

[12agnar0k]

It's not the actual code itself that is supposed to be the deterrent - but the process of entering it.

but doesn't that seem to escape logic? i mean at least to me.... if the person has a script to login... they could write a new script to autobank using the same number.... since our genius put the same number as the bank numb

You're arguing with the wrong person - I believe the login code is a waste of time as it can easily be overcome by logging in and then creating a script that refreshes the page before the autologout kicks in. The code itself can be read - as a fellow player of mine has demonstrated - so, if it can be read then it can be made to be input into the code login box.

Yup which uis why i want the code changed so it cant be read , and viewable to phone users, and also a way of not refreshing the page with a recurring code. And why Fenrir did ya start talkign this thread had died....

[generaloneill]

The code is an utter waste of time, not to mention the exponential number of failed logins that have hit the server.

I went to the gate wars site and left it on the page for 10 minutes, then attempted to login, only to find that the damn code had changed, resulting in a failed login.

This is starting to <modded by Wolf> me off now.

12agnar0k you have said your piece now please shut up!

EDIT BY Wolf359: Take it easy my friend!!

[Geoff]

I don't often comment on updates, but i gotta say i agree with nearly everything Wolf has said!!!

Has FORUM seen this post i wonder? and now this code has been added in quantum too... again seemingly without any explanation.

I was actually away for a few days when the code was implemented and due to the fact i couldn't log in on my phone (logged on once, then the next day i couldn't log on) i lost a fair bit.
(must say i'm glad it wasn't implemented in quantum so close to the reset!)

I really don't like complaining too much about updates as i know FORUM works very hard and i respect that; but some sort of reason as to what it achieves or acknowledgement for the problems it has created would be nice.

ps. b4 anyone bags my post count i'd just like to say i don't use the forums a real lot and generally post only when i feel i need to.

[Wolf359]

I don't know if Forum has seen this - I'll try and find out.

[Wolf359]

I spoke to forum earlier and made him aware of the limitations of the code. I also notice the bank code has now disappeared.

[Radium]

I spoke to forum earlier and made him aware of the limitations of the code. I also notice the bank code has now disappeared.

I am not a proponent of the code. But using it while logging in is better then while banking. I thought the code gave farmers to big of an advantage over people trying to bank. If you watched closely the naq would show up out in the open, but the wrong code was there and you had to wait a bit longer for that.

I know that I, and others used that delay in the code to really work people over

[12agnar0k]

I spoke to forum earlier and made him aware of the limitations of the code. I also notice the bank code has now disappeared.

I am not a proponent of the code. But using it while logging in is better then while banking. I thought the code gave farmers to big of an advantage over people trying to bank. If you watched closely the naq would show up out in the open, but the wrong code was there and you had to wait a bit longer for that.

I know that I, and others used that delay in the code to really work people over

One of the reasons i suggested it to forumn altho the main reason is that when fully installed it will stop cheats ,, all the rest is just bonuses...

Now with the bank code gone the update is what 25% complete

Erm oneil no need for hostilities

Edit by Wolf: I've already warned him - no need to aggravate him further.

[Thant]

I also notice the bank code has now disappeared.

That's an improvement... I'm not against the code itself if it stops cheats, it just pisses me off that I can't log on using my mobile anymore. This is costing me naq... As long as this issue isn't fixed, I'll stay against the code... And I think that's the case for all mobile/cell/pda users in here...

[Forum]

the code is 100% a response to cheating, or an attempt to cheat, or the possiblility to cheat.
everyone wants cheating stopped, so i do what i can...then listen to teh complaints when i do
ok - the implementation was not perfect, but it did stop 90% possible cheating, leaving jsut hte smarter 10%...

now - the 'code' is improved. not perfect, but now at 98%. with this, i can remove other codes like the bank code.

and to answer a few questions:

1) go ahead and try to script it... if you succeed, you'll just waste your time until the last update is done ...
2) yes you can login for 3hours, then it logs you out... so you can't just 'keep active' to avoid the code.
3) now -instead of each time you bank, its just once per 3hours max to enter a code.... much better.
4) phones - i am still looking into this. but the short of it is if you can see images, you should be able to use a phone, PDA, etc without issue... you NEED java though. if a 'phone workaround' is needed, i am not against working on this.
5) its (i think) a nice solution - all security on the logon, then none.... makes playing a lot better, yet keeps security up (cheaters down). a fair compromise between gameplay and cheatstops i think.

there is still one way i know of to 'beat' the code, but to script it is very very hard/impossible and if i hear of anyone doing so (and i usually do when someone 'breaks' a security measure) i'll just increase security more ...

and please do not blame me for these... really i am just trying to keep a secure and cheat free game for all... if nobody cheated, i'd not need any of this... believe me i'd rather work on game features.

admin.

[blue85]

Hey Forum I thought this might help you work out the bugs with the phone/pda problem if you had some where to test the site on. This is a live demo version of the web browser that I use on my cell phone.


http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/operamini/demo.dml

I noticed that it does not show the textures behind the text to join the races I wondered if the code may be simlar. I hope this helps. The phone makes life a whole lot easier when you can't get to a computer to bank.

Also this may be a possible solution:
If you can find some way to have the current code sent via text message to the cell phone user. Maybe have an input box for the telephone number and when the text message is recieved the user has the code, but if the code is going to change within say 5 minutes then the next code is also sent. This would keep the code secure while allowing cell phone users to prove that they are realy on a cell phone and not cheeters just trying to bypass the code. If something like this were implemented I would be completly satisfied with this update.

[12agnar0k]

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[abyss]

Okey, like the big mod said this security code is really waste of time, now i see that admins are putting much hope in it, becouse they added some security to the index source, but still you can save the page and remove the crypto quite easely. From mine point of view this security code will stop some looting bots, like if they are droped out due idle or internet connection problems, but the page refresh problem still exist and the bots can be left hanging on a shell for weaks, and by this those persons get ritch, so the code security is useless, yes i agree with most of the people that its really annoying.
Talking about the email box, i would say its really good, becouse its much harder to scam players acc...(they don't know your email password).


My english is not fluent, so sorry for my mistakes, i'm to lazy to correct them.

[12agnar0k]

Okey, like the big mod said this security code is really waste of time, now i see that admins are putting much hope in it, becouse they added some security to the index source, but still you can save the page and remove the crypto quite easely. From mine point of view this security code will stop some looting bots, like if they are droped out due idle or internet connection problems, but the page refresh problem still exist and the bots can be left hanging on a shell for weaks, and by this those persons get ritch, so the code security is useless, yes i agree with most of the people that its really annoying.
Talking about the email box, i would say its really good, becouse its much harder to scam players acc...(they don't know your email password).


My english is not fluent, so sorry for my mistakes, i'm to lazy to correct them.

Forumn has made it so you get logged out every 3 hrs... altho id liek to see this cahnged to 1 or 2 at the very least cos cheaters could wake up every 3 hrs

[abyss]

Programms can refresh page any time so the scam, needs only to set refresh time right...