Would Goa'uld pwn the Wraith?

[System Lord Anubis]

You must however take into consideration that Wraith minds are far superior to that of humans and unas, the only hosts that we know Goa'uld have taken. It is possible that the wraith may be able to resist at least long enough to blow themselves up, so there is no advantage for the Goa'uld here.

As for Ba'al reprogramming and creating Kull warriors, we cannot be certain here either as the Kulls may have been given to Ba'al by Anubis, who had placed himself as Ba'al's master.

[Alex]

Wraith minds are no way proven more superior than humans, just because you can comunicate telpathicly doesnt make ur mind supior.





Ya but all your saying is that there os no proof for either side, which was stated eirlier, just like u say that niether of us can prove it watch the shows over and over and over again on dvd locked in ur room with ur eyes burning out.

[System Lord Anubis]

No, I'm arguing against points I feel are false. Also, Wraith can do more with their minds than just communicate telepathically to each other.

[Alex]

Like what? see what the other wraith are seeing? Hmmm, if you watch all stargate eps like me, the goa'uld hosts describe it as seeing everything normaly but not being in control, meaning.... That to the other wraith it would look normal.

[-Ailm-]

intergation, rising pt1, making them apear in more numbers than are actualyl there, creating shadows....

to list but a few

Wraith > goa'uld

and the wraith immuune system is far superior to that of the goa'ld, it would reject the symbiote and it woulld be attacked lieka v rirus and would die.

Ailm the wraith don't have intergalactic hyperdrives either so...it would'nt be an invasion

then how do you suppsoe they were going to get to the Milky Way?

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as for various other posts.

it was stated that the satlaight that was left was one of a massive array that was the last line of defence.

they also had warships, many of them, as the ancients unleashed them upon the Asuran.

fact is that the wraith defeated teh ancients, with enough skill and brute force to cripple them and obliterate their stranglehold on the galaxy leaving only atlantis in full working order, whatever you say the wraith have full capablities should they all invade milky way, to destroy the goa'uld wether you parasites like it or not.

-Ailm

[Cole]

Ancients were defeated along ago.
Anubis pwned Tollans.
Goaulds controlled galaxy.
Hataks dont need to stop while hyperspace
Alkesh have shileds, darts dont
Goauld handheld cannons can own darts.
Apophis ship and his fleet have invisible tech
Anubis mothership can fire mutliple at one time with good shields.
Goaulds have handheld shields, wraith dont.
Zat 3rd shot disintegrate enemy
Wraith weps are unable to reach kull warriors armour (missiles cant: point made)

Try to find cons to that

[-Ailm-]

Ancients were defeated along ago.
Anubis pwned Tollans.
Goaulds controlled galaxy.
Hataks dont need to stop while hyperspace
Alkesh have shileds, darts dont
Goauld handheld cannons can own darts.
Apophis ship and his fleet have invisible tech
Anubis mothership can fire mutliple at one time with good shields.
Goaulds have handheld shields, wraith dont.
Zat 3rd shot disintegrate enemy
Wraith weps are unable to reach kull warriors armour (missiles cant: point made)

Try to find cons to that

darts are way mor manouverable than alkesh/gliders,
anubis is gone and doesnt count as a goa'uld as he was demi ascended and is above actual goa'uld tech levels.
how do you know wraith dont have handheld shields?,
how do you no wraith weps dont touch kull armour?
Hyperspace technology =/ so what
how do you know wriath dont have stealth technology?
Anubis pwned tollan...yes what an acomplishment, wriaht pwned ancients!!!!

fact is ANY enemy that defeated the ancients CAN destroy the goa'uld AND the tauri, the ONLY reason they are losing in pegasus is because of lack of food, igf they got to MW they would ave a ripe new feeding ground.

-Ailm

[Cole]

Ancients were defeated along ago.
Anubis pwned Tollans.
Goaulds controlled galaxy.
Hataks dont need to stop while hyperspace
Alkesh have shileds, darts dont
Goauld handheld cannons can own darts.
Apophis ship and his fleet have invisible tech
Anubis mothership can fire mutliple at one time with good shields.
Goaulds have handheld shields, wraith dont.
Zat 3rd shot disintegrate enemy
Wraith weps are unable to reach kull warriors armour (missiles cant: point made)

Try to find cons to that

darts are way mor manouverable than alkesh/gliders,
anubis is gone and doesnt count as a goa'uld as he was demi ascended and is above actual goa'uld tech levels.
how do you know wraith dont have handheld shields?,
how do you no wraith weps dont touch kull armour?
Hyperspace technology =/ so what
how do you know wriath dont have stealth technology?
Anubis pwned tollan...yes what an acomplishment, wriaht pwned ancients!!!!

fact is ANY enemy that defeated the ancients CAN destroy the goa'uld AND the tauri, the ONLY reason they are losing in pegasus is because of lack of food, igf they got to MW they would ave a ripe new feeding ground.

-Ailm

And darts can be killed by a bazooka or goauld cannon or even a AK 47
Hyperspace of wraith need to stop, thats what (hataks waiting them on corner )
Ancient were not military minded, and were in less numbers, nomatter how powerful tech.
Apophis hidden fleet would pwn hives and hidden teltaks/alkesh would pwn darts in same time

[-Ailm-]

Ancients were defeated along ago.
Anubis pwned Tollans.
Goaulds controlled galaxy.
Hataks dont need to stop while hyperspace
Alkesh have shileds, darts dont
Goauld handheld cannons can own darts.
Apophis ship and his fleet have invisible tech
Anubis mothership can fire mutliple at one time with good shields.
Goaulds have handheld shields, wraith dont.
Zat 3rd shot disintegrate enemy
Wraith weps are unable to reach kull warriors armour (missiles cant: point made)

Try to find cons to that

darts are way mor manouverable than alkesh/gliders,
anubis is gone and doesnt count as a goa'uld as he was demi ascended and is above actual goa'uld tech levels.
how do you know wraith dont have handheld shields?,
how do you no wraith weps dont touch kull armour?
Hyperspace technology =/ so what
how do you know wriath dont have stealth technology?
Anubis pwned tollan...yes what an acomplishment, wriaht pwned ancients!!!!

fact is ANY enemy that defeated the ancients CAN destroy the goa'uld AND the tauri, the ONLY reason they are losing in pegasus is because of lack of food, igf they got to MW they would ave a ripe new feeding ground.

-Ailm

And darts can be killed by a bazooka or goauld cannon or even a AK 47
Hyperspace of wraith need to stop, thats what (hataks waiting them on corner )
Ancient were not military minded, and were in less numbers, nomatter how powerful tech.
Apophis hidden fleet would pwn hives and hidden teltaks/alkesh would pwn darts in same time

im not even going to counter your points because your just regurgitating points i have already counterd

you are wrong

Wraith > Goa'uld



-Ailm

[Cole]

Thats YOuR point of view that wraith>goaulds

[-Ailm-]

Fact not opinion

you are wrong

Wraith > Goa'uld



-Ailm

[Cole]

But the facts are discutable.
I even saw Tauris and Asgards saying that goaulds>wraith so...its not subjective view by me...
IT IS THE TRUTH!!!
You underestimate power of Hataks, dont you remember what they did to Anubis first ship?
That shows they can own the wraith, and no more argues can fight it.
And you think milky way people would be easy as pegasus "food"?
No no no...
Apophis fleet from "Serpent venom" would pwn them, so just think what would Anubis'one
Finally look at votes
3x+ more for goaulds than wraith

Instead of Ori vs goaulds thing, I'm 5000% sure that Goauld>wraith because it's true, instead of ori vs advanced goaulds where I speculate

[Osi]

ailm the fact is that we are basing this off of season 8 of stargate and season 1 of atlantis the wraith would fail we know they don't ahve shields, and we know they can't cloak or else we wouldn't always win and the wraith darks don't have good weapons because they weren't built for battle tehy were built for culling

[Lord Namrennab]

I'd have to say the Goa'uld, mostly because..i like the Goa'uld..but it would be a very close fight. a hive ship has many many darts. they could cull some planets on the way to battle..

[[SGC_ReplicÅtors]]

i have to say goualds 10,000 year old MS dont cut it with new and improved stolen tech goauld upgrade MS....hell a replicator infested gouald MS could own them....

...and besides having no shields means every shot they fire is a direct hit...imho i rather have shields, and besides....the dedulaus only has projectile wepaonary on it it doesnt have lasers yet and even with those they still did lots of damage on the wriath hive ships on of the season 3 episodes....if "bullets/missiles" can do that think what powerful lasers can do.....thats right bow holes on the side of there Hiveships...also when sheppard lacthed on to the hive MS it only too 1 missile tp nlow the hives hyper engines just 1 missile...lasers only the other would of wiped them out.

Another thing is those darts arnt really all that good...first is in SGA sheppards took down a wriath ship with a m60 i believe...guys a M60..i dont think you can dot hat to a glider.

Jaffa warriors > Wriath warriors while....well first thing is weponary goualds have weps that kill (staff weps)....wriaths have weps that only yes stun(pistol stunners and those huge stunners)...i havent seen a wriath weps that kills on the first hit anyways...and besides jaffas are ready for combat with all that armour on...as for the wriaths ...for craps sakes they have like a vest on that only protects them...jaffas are fully armour from head to toe while wriaths leave there soliders and head exposed, i would like to see a wraith try and feed on them with all that armour...

As for gliders vs darts pretty evenly matched id say...it all depends on the pilot...they both have lasers and thast about it...so one shot from any ship

Another thing is ppl, your forgetting something NUMBERs...there are only what less than a 100 hive ships when goualds MS range in the thousands probably. As for a 1v1 Hataks will still pwn wriaths hive ships...

Another thing too prove that Wriath engery weps will be useless to goauld MS shields is this...

Deadulas Shields stopped wriath lasers this we have seen before in the other seasons that a given...

Promethues shields at the battle of antartica stopped goauld weps...

Earth shields are modeled after the asgards/goaulds and yet there was a episode when Goauld Shields stopped asgard weps and goauld weps pireced through asgard MS shields, during the scuffle between PPT when anubis captured thor...

(Goauld Improved shields = Earth MS shields) that means goauld shields WOULD stop wriath lasers.

Another thing is the kull warriors...you see how many lasers pulse they shoot outof those arms weps on both arms....they fire in rapid fashion and probabyl own a like 20 wriaths before going down.